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Way to ‘whatabout’ the situation. Let’s stop that right now and judge Bauer on his own merits, and lack thereof. This thread isn’t about anyone else but him.

No way. If our FO hands out a contract to Bauer, I never watch another Twins game. That would be a horrible signing and Bauer needs to just go away. For those that think signing a contract with a cheater is bad, this would be a thousand times worse. Just no, I can forgive a lot, but this I couldn’t and wouldn’t.

Don’t … just trying to cut down on all the threads that start out ‘Rumors’ that are no longer rumors. Although, the ‘Correa to SF’ threads certainly turned out that way ?

Glad you are getting things out in here, but please don’t use the rumor function for things that aren’t rumors. Signings, releases, other teams’ news … not a rumor. But thanks for being a good poster! ?

Someone else said it … they are putting a lot of eggs in the ‘remain healthier, rookies stepping up and 2nd years taking steps forward’ basket. If all that happens, we may end up with a better record and even a playoff spot, BUT … that’s an awful lotta eggs in one basket and it still doesn’t make us a better team. And no trade for a significant player is not going to involve the future sustainability as you said. The FO has put us in an untenable corner by not using FA along with development and trades. We can’t keep relying on the future to get us through. I see so many advocate for prospects being the answer, and then complain when they aren’t. Prospects and young players eventually gave us 87 … how long ago was that now?

This is the bottom line for me. Whether or not we got Correa, are we improved with the moves made? No, we are not.

I also wonder if trading Urshela was thinking they would get Correa

Instead of focussing solely on Correa they could have worked to sign one of the other SS instead.

When the other manager is Francona, that would be true of just about every team in baseball

I don’t think they had the choice. It was part of the deal. Maybe the answer was to never have signed him to begin with. Hindsight is always 20-20

Then why would big free agents ever sign with New York or California teams? Seriously. And they only pay taxes for games played in those states. It’s not like their entire salaries are taxed at the NY or CA rate unless they already live there. And with the money they make, they still are left with a huge amount of expendable income, comparably speaking. I live in a high tax area, and I do so willingly because of the life I have there. It’s just not a factor … and I’m not making huge amounts of money, either

That would be great info to share! Thanks! But also ask if where they sign, do taxes matter to them? If you could, for me? I’d be curious as my stance has always been I don’t think it matters, at least not to the big earners.

If a salary cap becomes a thing, then so must setting a floor that owners cannot go under without strict financial penalties. I mean, payrolls running the difference from $60mil - $400mil … that’s huge. But what should be the cap, what should be the floor, and what should be the penalties?

When I lived out of the country for partial years, paid taxes on what I earned there. When I filed my U.S. taxes, they figured out the taxes owed on the whole year earnings, both within and outside the U.S., then deducted what I already paid to the foreign entity. When it was entire years, I still had to file, but but paid no U.S. taxes, but with proof of my foreign residency and paid taxes on my earnings there. But, that’s not a state to state thing. It wouldn’t seem right, if living in another state, then they pay income tax, again, on their total earnings, so at some point an adjustment would need to be made? I’m not sure how that works. It’s complicated. But all that aside, income tax rates from state to state is NOT A FACTOR in where a player signs. It’s just not, so I wish people would stop saying that.

Also, didn’t someone say in a previous thread, that where they reside during the off-season, where they call home, they get a credit for taxes paid elsewhere when they file?

How do you know they weren’t given a second chance? They could have said their last offer was it, or they could have still not had the highest money.

Again, the taxes have NOTHING to do with it. Absolutely nothing.

No, that wouldn’t solve the problem. How does this change what the Mets have done this season? It doesn’t.

So, if the Mets find nothing in his medicals, what then? Would SF face any kind of reprimand? And Correa will play 3rd for the Mets?

???

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Well, but it was a difference maker. We shouldn't be in rebuild mode at this time. People usually rebuild AFTER they've already had success. We haven't and now we are rebuilding? And signing a Correa, or any big name, does attract attention and other players ... because it makes us look like we are really trying to compete. Okay, so, I'm not suggesting the the FO isn't trying, but, by staying away from the FA market, all we are left with is development and trades ... and we can't develop what we don't or no longer have because we've traded it all. We are backed into a very difficult corner and have made it that much more difficult to be competitive. So, in essence, we will remain in rebuild mode for how long? Haven't we essentially been in rebuild mode since 2013, except for a season or two or hopefulness? This is my problem. It's not just Correa. It's the inactivity on the FA market for frontline players. We need those to compete, as well as the others. The FO has chosen a path that makes it nearly impossible to go the distance. As a fan, that's what I want. They are still my team, I will still cheer them on. But the miracle would be a team that beyond reason just clicks and gets it done. That's a huge hope for a fan like me when hope is waning.

Are we, though? It's not just about not getting Correa. As much as I and others wanted the Twins to sign him, they lost out on other possible signings along the way, and not just at SS. That's what the issue is. Not just that we didn't sign Correa, but we didn't get the pitcher or a different SS or a RP. So who is left to sign? All the after thoughts, all the Happs and Shoemakers. Yes, we can trade, but trade who? Lewis? Lee? To get a frontline anyone, the conversation begins with them, maybe both of them. We have little else in our system that will bring back the difference maker.

It was a cold game today ... I live near there

Goes to show you that there are no guarantees in life