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I'm fine with the Yankees way over paying for Rodon

Then that leaves out the Cubs. They are in a far worse position than the Twins.

Personally, I wasn't as intrigued by Senga as others here and am fine not signing him. And I don't think we should be signing Rodon, either. I think what the market will give Rodon is way riskier than signing Correa to 10-11 yrs. Most pitchers do not outlast position players. The way to better starting pitching has always been and always will be through development and trade. The Twins will never spend on FA starting pitching, mostly because of the years involved. And I'm okay with that philosophy. However, I do think they need to be better at identifying trade candidates. Seems that they are really counting on Mahle to have a better, healthier year and Paddock, too, when he returns. Hoping Joe can take a step further forward. But we do need another starter as good or better than Mahle, who I think is probably our best starter barring injury and someone else just having an insane career year. A trade is where it's at, not a signing. And if it takes Arraez to get a good pitcher, it takes Arraez. The other thing I'm concerned with is the BP. That is where I want to see some activity. We likely won't until we sign Correa; or don't.

I honestly want them to pass on Rodon given the years and amount he will want, and get. It's a far riskier pursuit, imo. That said, I wouldn't be unhappy if they did.

I wish I did make the decision in this case … you wouldn’t like me for it, though … ?

Lol ... title edited ... thanks

And I won’t be persuaded otherwise, either, and feel it would be a huge mistake not to sign him for as many reasons I’ve stated over the months. We are at an impasse ?

Who can tell that of any player out there, though. Lee or Lewis could get hurt, too, and not be what we expect them to be. I mean ... every single player could get hurt (and almost was last year). Making decisions based on 'but they could get hurt' will never get you anywhere. Always playing for the future with prospects will not get you anywhere, either. So your answer is, never give out a big contract and hope for the prospects? I just disagree that that is a good philosophy in this case. And the comparison with the Angels and Pujols ... the Angels spend to spend and do it stupidly. Was it silly for them to give Trout what he got? Players get hurt and players age. But you take on the contract for who they are right now. I guess I'm not as confident as others that Lewis or Lee will come even close to what Correa is right now, or would even be adequate for what we need now. We aren't going to get Rodon ... now, there's where I think spending on years is a bad idea. Pitchers are not as durable as position players. Also, Pujols was what ... 4 years older when he signed with the Angles than Correa is now.

Yep. We see trade scenarios on these pages frequently that are quantity of our fringe players for a quality/star player on another team. It doesn't work that way. Never has, never will. You have to give to get.

Lol ... you are comparing Correa to Pujols? And that wasn't my question. Seriously ... how do you guarantee Lewis or Lee to become the next Pena?

I merged this with the thread that was started by van.

This isn't news. This is a rumor. Hence the title ... 'RUMOR'. Discuss or not.

Thus far uncorroborated, reports have begun swirling the Twins and Marlins may be in talks to make a trade with the core pieces being established MLB players: starting pitcher Pablo Lopez and Luis Arraez (certainly with more coming from the Twins than just the batting champion). Lopez would be a step up from anyone currently in the Twins organization and is under team control for two more seasons. The 26-year-old right-hander had a solid season in 2022 but was an elite arm as recently as 2021. What would you give up to acquire Lopez? View full rumor

Okay ... so ... how do you guarantee Lewis or Lee to become the next Pena? And if they don't become that, what then? I really dislike this philosophy of putting our eggs into a basket that is completely unproven. It could prove to be steady, but it more likely will prove to be unstable and lands broken eggs all over the sidewalk. A Correa contract will NOT hamstring us. With so many young players on the roster, a new TV deal around the corner, the rising cost of doing business, the smart money is to sign Correa and IF either Lewis or Lee become something, they slot in in another position, or they become trade bait for quality pitching and not has been pitching. I think we need to stop putting our eggs into the 'if' basket of prospects.

Yeah ... I'm not certain that if Swanson remains, maybe just go with what we have?

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It almost seems as if this could be decided in the next week …

I have hopes for Correa, though. And I don't think we are small market, either, and dislike that argument. We are mid-market, and I think pretty much most people here know that. But that still doesn't mean we can or should go insane. I have no qualms signing a position player to a big, long contract, like Correa. But I agree with not signing a pitcher to the same. The way pitchers pitch today, they do not last that long. What DeGrom got was insane, and, imo, irresponsible. No way if I were an owner would I have allowed that. I wouldn't have even signed Rodon to that and he will want, and probably get, more. That said, we do need to be better at developing what we need. Or better at identifying and trading for it. As long as we aren't filling the rotation with Happs and Shoemakers, we'll be fine ... but spend on quality relief arms, then. That is a workable formula.

I never expected them to go after or sign top FA pitching. And after seeing what DeGrom got? Yeah, nope, not happening. I'm still hoping for Correa, though ...

Wow. That’s kind of amazing

I honestly don't get this take. If he's an injury risk out there, he's an injury risk anywhere. I don't think CF is higher risk in that regard.

I’d do it. For frontline pitching? In a heartbeat. It would be a tough deal but I’d still do it

Proper English is rumour. Just saying