Squirrel

Nope. They won. Saw bits but have visitors this weekend. Typical thread. Pretty much reads the same as most of the Twins game threads.

That’s not what I asked and what was stated. What SS is available who is just as good and costs less. I get the quantity over quality argument you are making but that wasn’t my question

I don’t think that’s enough to get the deal done but we’ll see, hopefully sooner than later

So what player is just as good that will cost us less?

This is about supply and demand and profit margins. They will set the price to whatever maximizes profits, and nothing else matters. It's like that just about everywhere. I don't like it, I think it's wrong to not consider the fans, but as we've seen in MLB, they don't seem to be particularly interested in pleasing us. The price for games, food, beverage ... it's all too much, imo. But as long as enough people pay it to meet their line, they do it. But price gouging, no ... that's not what this is, imo.

I don't think we actually disagree. My whole initial point was that I wouldn't call it price gouging. Over priced? Certainly. And I won't buy it. And that some will, well, that's on them. I typically won't even buy a jersey at a 'normal' price because that's too high for me. But I would be curious to see if that price then 'incentivizes' people to buy the now reduced-priced jerseys of the 'old' stuff.

I hardly call it taking advantage when one can afford to spend that on a shirt. Seriously. And I’ll be way off topic if I expound on that further, so I’ll leave it at that. ?

As I just said to Brock, I think it’s more about selling out the old merchandise than anything. But what do I know other than … I won’t be buy either new or old. And, again, I don’t considerate it gouging, but that’s also my opinion. And the price isn’t the sole reason, or the main reason, I won’t buy one.

The thing is, they will get that. I mean, some people lineup to get a new iPhone when it comes out just to have the new one first. At the Twins store online it clearly said, ‘limited supply’ and ‘almost sold out’. So they made some of the new ones, set a high price, then discounted all the old jerseys. I think it’s more a ploy to sell the old to make room for the new than anything else. People will think the other jerseys are a bargain by comparison, Those few who have to have it will buy it, and the rest will look at the much lower prices on the previous stuff, and buy it. It’s a sales tactic … and I bet it works. To me it’s hardly gouging as I stated above. Stupidly high priced? Yes, if your goal is to sell as many of the new as possible. But I think the goal is to sell as much of the old merchandise as possible.

There’s a larger discussion in there somewhere that correlates to the decline in sports, in general, and luxury vs affordability. And then another on economics and supply and demand. And yet another with the adage, you have to spend money to make money. You want people to buy tickets and spend money on merchandise, put a winning team on the field. Not to complicate the discussion and take it down an unintended path with all of this, but back to the jersey … people have bought them and paid that price … I won’t participate in that. Until money is spent on a winning team, my spending will be at a very minimum on the team.

Oh, it’s high priced, yes. I said that. And I won’t be buying one at that price. Curious enough, I went to the Twins site, they seem to only have limited quantities of the new jerseys and they say almost sold out. But the old jerseys are heavily discounted. I wonder if the price will come down next spring? Frankly, I find simple tshirts way over priced for most sports and don’t buy those, either. I have a few hats. They are old, but still do just fine.

Setting a price on a luxury item, which a jersey is, is not price gouging. High priced? Certainly. So don't buy it. I won't. But that's not what price gouging is. Now, charging exorbitant prices on necessity items, like insulin, that's gouging.

I think he's earned the respect to be considered a starter until he's not. While I get that his innings may need to be managed, it will be 18 months post-surgery by the time ST rolls around.

Yeah ... was going to say this ... Martin will likely never be a SS on the Twins roster, maybe no roster; and if he's our back up at SS? Not good

Correction, I rarely comment, but I have. And I do read this thread pretty regularly as I do most every thread on this site

Lol, this thread never disappoints

Because this is the debate forum, I'm just going to say it ... support your claim with actual evidence, please. Debates are not about supposition because you dislike the outcome.

Talk about disconnect. No one has said to spend the same as other teams and fill the roster with big ticket players in every position. But the Twins can afford to get a Correa and/or Rodon. They have the flexibility. To never go out and get that player is a way to never win except by chance. They can’t count on unproven players year after year and expect to do anything but lose their fans. That’s not good business, either

Exactly. And going back to no shift is not the time to see if Lewis and/or Lee can really play SS at the major league level. If they hit they will both have a spot on and be valuable to the team even if not at SS. If Farmer starts the year as our SS, that’s a big fail, imo. And counting on players who have yet to prove themselves is not a blueprint for a championship team. At some point a team does have to spend to win it all, and they have the room to do it right now

I know I'm broken-record-ing it here, but I just hate the idea of waiting for Lewis or Lee. We don't know for certain when either will be able to take over, if they are able to take over. And while I think Miranda will get time at 3rd, I'm not certain he's a starting 3rd baseman. If he is, we'd better have one heckuva SS out there, and not just a placeholder for something that we have no real certainty on both in when or if.

What did it stand for?

I like them overall. Not a fan of the M, but don’t hate it, either. Everyone always asks me what the TC stands for. That annoys me more than whatever style M is on the caps. Mostly I don’t care as long as the baby blues are gone. They always looked like pajamas to me. But mostly I don’t care because I’m more concerned with who’s wearing the uniforms. But I think the hype of ‘rebranding’ is always silly no matter who or what it is. That said, I enjoyed the fashion show.

I like them overall. Not a fan of the M, but don’t hate it, either. Everyone always asks me what the TC stands for. That annoys me more than whatever style M is on the caps. Mostly I don’t care as long as the baby blues are gone. They always looked like pajamas to me. But mostly I don’t care because I’m more concerned with who’s wearing the uniforms. But I think the hype of ‘rebranding’ is always silly no matter who or what it is. That said, I enjoyed the fashion show.

Same mistake? We didn’t take on Donaldson in the process

Are you kidding???? It signifies EVERYTHING!