Vanimal46

Yep. We really had no business winning that game. Tons of season long issues were evident. At least today, we can ride the high of stealing that win.

Same. The open doors and crazy wind gusts clearly got to both kickers today. Wow, still in shock we stole that win!

What a win!

Osborn!! Yes!!

Boom! We’re in FG range to tie it.

Thielen has a case. He was bear hugged on that 4th down call.

The Vikings are making it an easy decision to figure out something else to do on Sundays. Running it back with essentially the same core of players who topped out at 9 wins 2 years ago is yielding predictable results.

At the end of the day we don’t make the call so people are going to side with whatever decision is made. There’s been a lot of revisionist history being written on this site lately. The biggest culprit being Royce Lewis was projected to be a major impact player this year. I don’t know if deferring back to FanGraphs projections in March is some sort of defense mechanism to make people feel better that the Twins are living up to an 82 win season? And casually ignoring that they were a 10 game over .500 team in late May, leading the division until a few weeks ago.

This is a really bad defense. There’s not much to salvage from the current situation roster of players. Danielle Hunter has been MIA all year. The secondary is brutal.

4th and 5. Give up 30 yards. Of course.

Kirk still seeing ghosts from last week.

Today we find out if the Motor City Kitties are the real deal. No Harrison Smith or Andrew Booth Jr in the secondary. I’d like to see a lot more Lew Cine on the field.

As much as I’d like to clean house now, I had no expectation Jim Pohlad would do it. Please don’t double down and give any extensions.

Look at their game logs on baseball reference. Both were reduced to less than 80 pitches throughout the season. If that is over extending them then both are bullpen arms.

Why would we not do this? That was exactly why we hired Derek Falvey specifically. To emulate their pitching pipeline and success over a decade. If he can’t do that, then he’s not going to lead us to anything and it’s time to move on.

Thanks for pointing out the examples. 6 to 4 trade to draft. Everyone is going to have their own definition of a pitching pipeline and I frankly don’t care where they came from. What we need is a true success story as a draft and develop guy and that hasn’t arrived yet after 5 years (2020 withheld). Ober and Winder are almost there but both have their fair share of injury history. Neither have topped 100 innings in a professional season.

Why would it take twice the time to make up? And why doesn’t it appear that it’s effected other teams? There are tons of excellent young starting pitchers in the MLB today.

A pitching pipeline can and should come from every avenue. Trade, waiver wire, draft, and international FA. Falvey and Levine made a savvy move acquiring Joe Ryan in the Nelson Cruz trade and deserve credit for it. At the very least he’s a backend starter and likely a mid rotation starter. The frustrating part of the pipeline is having a draft and develop example. Which Cleveland has several examples in the last decade who have become top of the rotation weapons. Every organization has a David Festa-esque player who does very well in the low minors because they are a 23 year old player. I’m not celebrating that if/when that player becomes a multi year mid rotation starter.

I was trying to be nice… And perhaps Brooks Lee gets a bump to raise the ranking. Still, not even a little gutted?

They had the 23rd ranked farm system on mlb.com at the mid season mark. Then traded away 4 of their top 5 draft selections in the 2021 draft in the last calendar year. Not even a little gutted? I’d bet they’re no more than 20th in 2023 preseason rankings.

Those 2-3 weeks before the shutdown was the highest amount of activity baseball has seen in years. For some reason, Falvey and Levine were asleep at the wheel when every top starting pitcher was signed before the lockout.

From June 1 to today: A slow motion car crash

If Correa is back, I do Lewis and Ober for Lopez with no hesitation. Heck, even if Correa isn’t back I likely do that deal. Take advantage of Lewis’ stock rising again. Ober hasn’t surpassed 100 innings in any professional season and I don’t know why we’d expect that to change.

SS Noelvi Marte was the 11th rated prospect in baseball as the headliner. Along with an 18 year old toolsy SS and 2 intriguing arms. 3 of Seattle’s top 5 prospects in a better rated system than ours. Not including Royce Lewis like you suggest would have been a non starter. Even including him wouldn’t have gotten it done.