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  1. Tomj14
    The way I see it, the players are in a bad situation. if they ask for more money the best of the best will get huge contracts, and the owners will continue to offer the rest really short deals hoping their cheap young guys are really good. Baseball MGMT is no different from the the rest of the world and they realize the most important assets are really good young people before they start making a ton of money. The difference is Baseball teams make a boat load of money even if they have a crappy team. The just sell of the fans on hope that someday it will work out. Look at this site for example, look how many people are hoping for a future with the prospects over winning the current year. Guess what that will likely be the narrative next year as well, and then when the next wave of prospects are down on the farm.
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    I would argue that planning on any of the guys you listed is dumpster diving for 2019. I really HOPE DeJong, Littell, Stewar and Gonzo become reliable major league pitchers in any capacity and I HOPE Thorpe becomes a solid starter in 20 or 21, but planning on it 2019 is well not a real plan.
  3. Tomj14
    I would be willing to take a flyer on Clay, he had 10 QS in 16 starts last year and averaged over 6 innings a start. I don't expect that kind of production out of anybody besides Jose and Kyle.
  4. Tomj14
    I agree, if the Twins aren't trying at the least to get Manny what top free agent will be worth going after? That means to get a top 10 player in the majors you a have to draft him, I am not a fan of those odds.
  5. Tomj14
    Gibson has been one 15-20 best pitchers in the american league the last year in a half. A number 4 is closer to 45 - 50. Plus there were only 30 pitchers in all of baseball that average over 6 innings per start, and he was 19. That seems to be a quality that is going away.
  6. Tomj14
    it is my understanding that a whole team of replacement level players wins 52 games. Which team consistent with your numbers of the Twins being .500.
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    His first full year his WAR was 2.3, then 3.0, then had a down year and a half and then has been one of the better starting pitchers in the American league the last year and half. I get the hesitancy, but I will take him over every starting pitcher the Twins have in the minors for the next three years. Obviously I will be willing to add a starting pitcher that was an upgrade and push him down to third or even 4th starting pitcher. But lets be honest if Kyle Gibson is the 4th best starting pitcher on any team, that is a damn good rotation.
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    My favorite thing about us Twins fans, Gibson is 31 was 12th in the American league in WAR for starting pitches (ESPN WAR) and probably not good enough for a .500 team.
  9. Tomj14
    I will say this holding onto prospects too long makes them way less valuable. Imagine what the Twins would have gotten in return two years ago offering Gonzo, Gordon, Jay and Stewart and what that would get them today. It would be interesting to see what value the Twins perceived depth would bring back? Slegers,Gonsalves,Romero,Mejia,Thorpe,Tylers Wells,Littel. IMO Romero, Thorpe and Wells would close to headlines in a trade, and they might have to trade all three plus somehting else to get a top end rotation guy.
  10. Tomj14
    Honest question, how do you build a rotation around a guy that hasn't pitched above high A, and a another with 55 2/3 innings in the majors? I am a huge Graterol Fan, but lets be honest he isn't going to be good enough to build around until 2021 (fingers crossed he is ever good enough to build around), and Romero probably 2020.
  11. Tomj14
    Aren't Kepler and Buxton's last year of Arb 21 as well?
  12. Tomj14
    I believe standing pat is an excuse not a strategy. There are/were very few free agents I would have been willing to give multiple year contracts to, but there has been a bunch of players that have been traded in the last year or two that would I would have been more than willing to trade for, Not going for it this year, really is pushing it out until 2021. IMO, and by then the probably won't be able to sign the current guys if they are good and FA's, so they will be waiting for the next group of prospects. Viscous circle.
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    and if Buxton and Sano live up to or exceed expectations and the Twins didn't do anything because they were being patient, they wasted another year. The Twins should be planning on Sano and Buxton being good and build around that or if they are worried then clean house and rebuild for 2021/2022.
  14. Tomj14
    I am going to go with No, not even close. If somebody offered the Twins that for Gibson, I think the answer would be no and Kluber is better than Gibson.
  15. Tomj14
    Mike you are on fire today!!!
  16. Tomj14
    Didn't they try that when he was in the minors?
  17. Tomj14
    I am not a huge Ordorizzi fan. But he was 26th in the American league in innings, 20th in K's, 24th in ERA, and 49th in WAR (including relief pitchers) in 2018 that that places him in a low end #2 or high end #3 role in the American league, I find it interesting on how Twins fans some how magically think the twins prospects are going to be anywhere close to as good as that, history shows that doesn't happen. I also find it interesting with all the stats out there, no one wants to look one of the most important ones and that is the percentage of prospects that don't live up to the hype.
  18. Tomj14
    Cano has been a MVP candidate 7 of the last 9 years and was on his way last year and a WAR of 53.8, so of course the Twins don't need him.
  19. Tomj14
    The Twins absolutely should stay away from players with talent and big salaries and pin their hope on prospects, that way the fans always have hope for future.
  20. Tomj14
    Positional flexibility is a myth, players that hit well will play, players that don't, shouldn't. What made Eduardo Escobar a really good player the last two years wasn't positional flexibility,it was his ability to hit. Being able to play multiple positions is a good thing and can help the team if other really good hitters need a place to play, but if you can play multiple positions but can't hit a lick, you just move around a weakness from one position to another.
  21. Tomj14
    Can we agree that being overloaded with talent is different than being over loaded with players? The Dodgers had 10 guys with a OWAR over 2, the Twins had 2 and traded one of them to Arizona. Trying to make guys that can't hit (Well) into flexible position players seems like pissing into the wind. IMO
  22. Tomj14
    How about moving some of the mediocre talent that they are trying to find spots for, and getting better baseball players?
  23. Tomj14
    If the Twins want him, you don't dink around with trying to pay the least, you make a more than fair offer and possibly more and you get your guy.
  24. Tomj14
    My opening offer is Kepler, Gordon and Rooker and another mid tier prospect and see if I am even close.
  25. Tomj14
    So would trading for Santana free up the Phillies to go a little crazy in the free agent spending, seems their payroll is about the same as the Twins. I don't like that idea,
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