DaveW

LOL I approve of this bit. I'm gonna steal it

I think people tend to underestimate the value of a guy who can be a solid #3 starter. Those types get $12-$15 mil a year on the FA market (see: Santana) May isn't and wasn't going to be an ace, but he could miss bats, and could pitch well. This is a huge loss from the rotation IMO.

Since this is partially in reference to my original statement, I hardly would call it loosely founded or wildly skeptical. I linked to one of the most well respected baseball minds who shares the opinion of putting a pitcher into the pen, then back into the rotation etc causes these sorts of issues. Additionally May has said as much himself, stating that the bullpen usage may be to blame for his back issues. Having a guy go from a decade or so of pitching every 4th or 5th day, to pitching back to back days or 3 in 5 days etc is going to have an effect. As is suddenly "stretching" him out again. Yes, the Twins are far from the only team to do this, but more often then not it results in said high upside pitcher ultimately getting injured on ineffective. Part of me wonders know if Hughes injuries are because the Yankees pulled the same nonsense on him. Ditto with Joba etc All of this in summation: I don't think the Twins helped Trevor may and his health etc by putting him back and forth between rotation and pen. People can disagree, which is fine, but for a team that has finished last 5 of 6 years, with a terrible pitching staff overall in that time, I have a tough time giving them the benefit of the doubt at this stage.

At his best May was one of the better 8th inning guys in baseball and looking to be a good bet to be a solid #3 as a starter. Not to mention he very likely would have been the Twins second best SP this year. Hardly mediocre.

Sheehan is one of the most respected baseball minds there is fwiw. This isn't just some random blogger or something.

Santana was in the bullpen because he was a rule 5 pick and they had to stash him

Mejia should get a shot. Berrios can take potentially Gibson's or Santiagos spot once Berrios has a few AAA innings under his belt. By June hopefully Santiago and Gibby are traded, Twins need to give innings to guys who can help in the future IMO

Either way, I think it's clear that there is zero benefit by screwing with the development of young pitchers with upside. Especially with a team like the Twins, who have had terrible SP for a half decade now. It's not like they had 5 aces in the rotation last year and their was zero room for May, a guy who could actually put up a sub 3.50 ERA. There is zero benefit from messing with development of high upside guys like this, hopefully they learn this lesson moving fwd.

I can assure you there are plenty of people who believe this and there is some correlation to back it up: http://joesheehan.com/?q=node/648 From that article: What the two pitchers have in common is a career path that is destructive: moving from starter to reliever and back. Over the past decade, teams have ruined a number of pitchers by switching them from one role to the next and seeing the pitchers involved lose health and effectiveness in the process. The jobs have become so completely different -- as relievers' roles are narrowed to throwing 15 pitches 75 times a year -- that pitchers can't port their skills or their training from one to the other without putting themselves at risk.

It's never a good idea to screw with a young arms development cycle. This is one of the effects of doing so. Injuries of course can happen to a pitcher at anytime, but messing with them like the Twins did with May only increases those odds.

This is what happens when you continually screw with a young pitchers development cycle by taking him out of the rotation, sticking him in the bullpen for a long period of time then trying to put him back in the rotation. He never should have been taken out in the first place. This injury is on Ryan, the old Front office and Molitor as far as I am concerned. A real shame bc he was looking good this spring, best of luck on the recovery.

Bitcoin hit an all time high, followed by a $180 drop minutes later. Stupid SEC!

Bitcoin set to hit $1300 shortly

I don't want any of these guys near this roster unless they are taking Danny Santanas roster spot. Its a rebuilding club, we don't need to be giving playing time to guys with zero upside. Period.

It won't forever but it has been for the last year as it's up 350%, not a bad return Once the sec stuff goes through it will immediately jump to 1500+ before I think it more or less begins to "settle" around $1800-$2000

Literally just about everything about it

Bitcoin isn't a traditional currency, and there are some real short term gains to be had.

BIT COIN

Bitcoin just hit an all time high. I was at the Nvidia announcement last night, I think the new 1080i should do well.

Bitcoin at $1200

OUCH Nvidia took a beating today. Short term it I could see it dipping down to mid 90's, but mid to longterm I still think it's a strong investment. I bought another chunk of shares on it's way down today at $101

Bitcoin over $1150. Bold prediction: It will hit $1400 by end of march.

Always Sunny has been on absolute FIRE this year thus far. Fargo is back April 19th, can't wait! Workoholics has been funny as hell this season as well. Watched the Legion pilot, pretty awesome television. If any of you guys dabble in the "reefer" it's a good show for that.

Again for the most part the community got along and didn't take any of it to seriously. But yes, there were some morons that got run off eventually, most stuck around and grew thick skin though. Even itstimetotakeit was in til the end more or less!

Yeah, I definitely think IMO that "smaller communties" are better, at least when talking about sports and our beloved Twins. That was my favorite part about BYTO, it was a good number of active posters (and guys who would show up once in a blue moon) but you knew who they were, remembered their posting style/hot takes/bits etc and while it was much more "wild west" everyone more or less got along. Even with the long drawn out battles between Lev and Pseudo, you knew they each enjoyed the banter. For the most part, nobody at BYTO took themselves too seriously, it was sort of like a bunch of buddies from college getting together years later to get drunk and watch baseball at a bar, insults were handed out like candy, but they always came from a place of love. The people that did take themselves too seriously: Stat, Itstime, Rob come to mind, ended up being a nice comic relief for the rest of us. I think that was the beauty of BYTO, nobody with the exception of Nick (who was doing his own thing anyways) was trying to be some baseball blogger, writer, or anything of note, it was just a bunch of dudes and a couple ladies who shot the **** about the Twins 365 days a year, and to your point, yeah it never had the "negative" feel to it. Luis Rivas the knife wielding maniac and Nachos Bell Grande Silva came more from a place of love then malice. Of course none of those bits would be allowed at TD because it's much more buttoned up. Additionally TD has a ton of people who are using it to try to be the next big blogger/writer etc, and while I commend people for that, I do think it takes away a lot of the more "fun" aspects of a forum as people tend to take things a little more seriously then they should. I mean, it's only baseball at the end of the day, but as mentioned it is good that a community does exist where new bloggers can perfect their craft, so to speak. I definitely see the value of TD, the larger community and the more blogs, and I continue to obviously view/participate, just personally I wish the smaller community was still around, where you knew everyone's "posting backstory" a bit, knew their bits and had long season running memes with word filters and what not. Where you could call someone an idiot (just like you would to your buddy in the bar when he said something stupid) and it wouldn't turn into an international crisis. Basically this is the same reason why I don't use twitter, and curate FB to only see posts from like 20 people, I could really give two ****s less about what random people are talking about, that's sort of my experience here, there are 15-20 posters that I enjoy bantering with, and the rest I could really not care either way about. This is why I particularly enjoy the Wild Thread and Sports Bar Board as a whole, since it's a smaller group of folks. To go back to your point about negativity, I think a little has to do with the fact that during BYTO the Twins were a really fun, competitive and scrappy (trademarked) team. The last 5 years his org has been a complete dumpster fire, so I get the negativity, though I do wish we could create some fun bits around specific players without people thinking it's some sort of personal attack.