I looked up TKs pythag wins vs actual per baseball ref. 1987: 85 actual, 79 pythag 1988: 91, 90 1989: 80, 81 1990: 74, 74 1991: 95, 94 1992: 90, 91 1993: 71, 68 1994: 53, 49 1995: 56, 57 1996: 78, 79 1997: 68, 73 1998: 70, 73 1999: 63, 65 2000: 69, 69 2001: 85, 81 Gardy’s tenure 2002: 94, 86 2003: 90, 85 2004: 92, 87 2005: 83, 84 2006: 96, 93 2007: 79, 80 2008: 88, 89 2009: 87, 86 2010: 94, 92 2011: 63, 62 2012: 66, 68 2013: 66, 63 2014: 70, 75 Molitor’s tenure 2015: 83, 81 2016: 59, 66 2017: 85, 83 2018: 78, 77 If my math is correct, TK was + 5. Gardy was + 19. Not sure if that proves anything. Tom Kelly won 16 playoff games that few expected him to.