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Article: Redrafting Five First Round Picks
nicksaviking replied to Cody Christie's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I have wondered for some time if drafting Hicks in 08 had any impact on their decision in 09. Using their first pick on projectable HS centerfielders in back to back years is probably counter intuitive. Even if that did play a part in the decision, Hicks was a great upside pick in 08 and even if they hadn't just picked him, Gibson was also very tantalizing, he definitely fit the Twins profile. If we saw the Twins draft board that year, I wouldn't be surprised if their top four values were Strasburg, Leake, Minor and Gibson.- 28 replies
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Smart strategy if this team has truly embraced their cellar dweller status. If they can't sign all of these guys, well it's only going to make their already large 2017 draft pool even larger.
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Article: Twins Add Two More on Thursday Night
nicksaviking replied to Jeremy Nygaard's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I like the handful of lotto tickets approach. Going the "safe" route never works outside of a very few can't miss guys who have gone 1-1 with a bullet, no one is actually a safe pick. Get the highest ceiling guys available regardless of level. It's not like the Twins need guys who will be up in the next couple years, they still have high-ceiling young guys for nearly every position that need to audition as it is.- 16 replies
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*****Moderator Note***** Let's stay on topic here, this is a draft thread.
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First two picks out of HS. Can they both be signed for slot or less? Or are we looking at college kids the rest of the way through round ten?
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I don't doubt your take, but that doesn't encourage me much. Jerks can be good at baseball too.
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No clue what this team will need in 4-5 years. If the were picking a hitter, I just wanted the best one. No clue if he's it but screw position, it's too unpredictable.
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Yes, but many times teams save some of their cap to overpay HS kids in the later rounds to try to keep them from going to college.
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Interesting. "Off field" issues didn't stop the Twins from drafting Gonsalves, though no two issues are the same. Even if it's not Groome, I'd still go BPA sign-ability be damned. In every other pro draft, teams trade picks, both up and down in that draft and in future drafts. MLB has a unique quirky caveat about getting a free pick the following year if you can't sign one of your top guys, the Twins should really take advantage of this. The NFL and NBA expect their picks to play right now, yet they still trade for the rights to future picks. In baseball, a guy you pick in 2018 could still beat a guy drafted in 2014 to the majors. Some day I think a smart team is going to come around and de-value the recency of their picks in exchange for the ability to hoard picks for a particular draft thus being able to play puppet master and pull all the strings.
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If Groome is available at #15, I'd like the Twins to think about taking him. Heck, if the Twins' BPA is on the board at #15 I'd take him, sign-ability be damned. The Twins aren't totally cap-strapped and can create some flexibility, with over $8M to spend. With the success rate of guys picked after round 10, they can draft 30 college seniors and offer 5K to all of them for all I care. Even if they can't get a deal done, they'll have a top 3 pick next year and #16, then they can pull all the shenanigans the Padres, Braves and Phillies are pulling this year. If the Twins had #1 and #16 next year, they could likely get two top 10 guys; I would be more excited about that than whomever they would have otherwise gotten to sign at #16 this year.
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I don't trust anyone at #15, so it's a great position to gamble. There isn't a safe pick out there, and I'd probably be upset due to a low ceiling if there was one. If Quantrill has the most upside, and I'm not saying he does as I'm just an armchair fain, I'd take him. I don't care much about injury history or lack of recent playing time, it's a crap shoot anyway. I'd also think the only reason Quantrill hasn't pitched this year is simply because guys coming back from TJ surgery tend to be rusty and he'd prefer not to audition at all than audition with rust.
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I was higher on Hudson earlier but every new report keeps bringing up his velocity going early in the game and early in the season. I really wanted to like him, but I'm more suspect now. With how Giolito and Hoffman proved the teams afraid of TJ history wrong, I'm all for Quantrill.
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Article: Urgency To Trade Plouffe Growing
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If Ryan viewed Plouffe as the every day 3B for the next five years, Ryan would have already extended him. There is plenty to criticize, we don't need to create phantom problems to get upset about. -
I thought Russians were godless Heathens. Did Reagan lie to me?
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Article: Urgency To Trade Plouffe Growing
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
If no teams want the players than there's nothing to do. I'm just saying the Twins should be aggressively trying to move these guys ASAP, they should not be playing the traditional game of chicken hoping they'll get better value later, because A ) the player being shopped would have to improve his play, and B ) you'd have to hope the market hasn't been diluted with better talent. Those are two things beyond a GM's control. Being a seller when there are very few sellers is the only time this front office will have to manipulate the system. Be aggressive, don't sit back and wait for other GM's to make the first move. The buyers are going to want to make the best deal possible. That need not be a requirement for our GM, make the other guy an offer that is intreguing enough for him to take our guy and not wait to see who becomes available later this summer. Let the other guy "win" the trade. -
Article: Urgency To Trade Plouffe Growing
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'd do the same in a heartbeat to get out from under Hughes or Nolasco. Most teams aren't sure about being buyers, but seeing as the Royals and Mets were in the WS last year and wish to do so again, you'd have to assume they are. I'd give teams a discount on the return to get some of these guys off the books now simply to ensure they are off the books by the end of the year. -
Article: Urgency To Trade Plouffe Growing
nicksaviking replied to Nick Nelson's topic in Twins Daily Front Page News
I'd think Polanco is ready to be given a fair shot. The urgency really isn't about getting a good return for Plouffe, the urgency is to move guys who might not be movable once the A's, Angels, Yankees, Tigers, Brewers, Phillies, Rockies and other teams also decide they will not compete this year. The Twins already know they're sellers. -
I guess I don't understand the last sentence. Shouldn't the goal to use as many workable innings at the majors instead of the minors? Pitchers seem to leave the game due to physical deterioration much quicker than batters. Also, pitchers are the causation to the batters reaction, it is the batter that needs to adjust to the pitcher, not the other way around. Because of those two things, it is the pitchers that I'd call up early and let the batters season in the minors if needed. I understand this is the opposite approach the Twins appear to take. On a more fundamental note, relief pitchers who throw 100 MPH don't tend to last long. Even if he is lights out for a few years, there's a very good chance he'll never get a shot at a true career-making free agent contract. Let him get his service time and give him a better chance of making his money. Also, it's a lost season, he has options and he's already on the 40-man, what's the harm?