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Removing emotion and the love and appreciation for Arraez, more than likely by 2024, the Twins were looking at Lee, Lewis, Martin, and Julien to join Correa, Polanco, Miranda, and Arraez. And that's not even including Kirilloff playing some/mostly 1B. SOMEONE was going to go in a deal, either now, or next year. It turns out to be Arraez now. And we can certainly debate the return for the Twins and future re-signings, prospect prognostication for the Miami kids brought back, etc. But again, someone was getting moved. It was a question of who and when. Now, as I alluded to in my previous post, what about leadoff and 1B?

Reponses: 1]BOOOO! 2] Who the hell hits leadoff. 3] Wait, who plays 1B if Kirilloff isn't really good to go? 4] Is Lopez really an improvement over what we have? 5] Another 2yr controlled arm? Any chance of an extension? And then I calmed down a bit and reflected. 1] I LOVE Arraez. Probably my favorite player. Been championing his value despite limited power! But I didn't think he'd go straight up for a solid, mid rotation arm with some upside like Lopez. I thought it would take a throw in or 2ndnof some sort. 2] Young and unproven, but the Twins got 2 other prospects thrown in? Including Miami's #5 prospect? I never saw that coming. I am NOT happy today. But from a purely logical perspective, this trade makes sense. Both teams added and gave up. I'm just not sure about the 2yr window with Lopez. If he's re-signed and has a nice career as a Twins they probably "win" this deal, as we always seem to have to declare one. If he's 2 and gone, I think Miami ends up "winning", FWIW. BIG question marks at 1B and a table setter for the lineup. What's next?

Yes, I have noticed the Twins making trade inquiries of potential CF options. I don’t think that's an odmonishment toward Gordon. I think it speaks more to A) letting Celestino further his development, and B) increase general roster depth/options, and C) maybe adding another potential speed player to the roster who is more than just a PR. Not sure it's going to happen, though I don't think they're done making changes yet, but I do find it really interesting. But I find the potential roster construction to be very interesting as it sits today. I believe the 13 man staff is locked in at this point. So that means 13 position players. If we take a HOPEFUL MOMENT and ASSUME Kirilloff is healthy, the 13 man roster would look like this: Vasquez, Jeffers, AK, Arraez, Polanco, Correa, Miranda, Farmer, Gordon, Gallo, Buxton, and Kepler. That's 12, meaning there's room for 1 more add. And that's assuming long standing rumors of Kepler, or someone, potentially being moved in a trade. So does Garlick get added back to the roster when someone gets moved to the 60 day? Does a trade for an OF still happen? Is there room enough to include Larnach? We talk a lot about potential adds to the staff, but the player portion of the roster is clearly not set yet.

Find a nice piece of wood and start a-knocking! Supposedly, he's working out and not feeling any pain at this time.

I always distance myself from trade possibilities because they are just so abstract and virtually impossible to predict. But I DO agree with early extensions for young talent. That's something started by Cleveland a few years ago and makes sense. The question is who, and when, and how much? The Twins have started to do that with Sano, Kepler, and Polanco. Berrios never turned out. And we can all argue about Sano and Kepler. But the Polanco signing was very smart. And yet, Polanco, despite his talent and love for him, might be pushed out soon due to the young talent rising in the system. Doesn't mean the signing was wrong. On the contrary. The Twins are in an unusual flux period where they have a potentially contending team with a lot of young talent just ready to make their mark. They've got 3 arms to make decisions on. But they already decided to extend Paddack. Easy to see a few more in 2023 to make moves on. Do they jump on Ryan, for example. I don't think they jump on AK or Larnach because they are still not 100% and options remain. But the FO could offer extensions if they are 100% and show themselves the way we've been hoping for. I like the idea of early extensions. You're going to miss on a few. But the ones you are right on far outweighs the misses.

Honestly, THANK YOU for the praise. (If not deserved). "Doc" is a nickname given to me many years ago because I am a writer of journalism, fiction, and poetry. I have often joked that I have a BS in B.S. given my upbringing and semi-intelligance, lol, combined with at least some talent, and life wisdom and perspective. But, alas, higher education didn't agree with me when attempted a few decades ago. So no, I don't have a paper degree. And I hope that doesn't disappoint or change perspective of me or my nickname. (Shhh...I'm pretty smart, but don't tell anyone, lol). But again, an HONEST THANK YOU for your kind words!

I have 2 distinct opinions on this: 1] I NEVER want to let opportunity go by where I could add talent to the Twins who might end up making a difference. Especially if I could add said talent on the cheap. In this scenario, a lower end AA or A prospect so the Angels could feel they got a flier and are just done. And while I feel the Angels are a rather poorly run franchise at the moment, if they are willing to give up such a talented young player on the cheap, I've got warning signals that even a low end prospect might simply be bringing me someone else's disappointment. But yeah, if the Angels are ready to move on, why wouldn't you take a shot at a cheap deal for a talent who might suddenly mature and pay off with a change of scenery? 2] While I appreciate other comments that the Twins should be focused on adding as much young talent as they can...what about winning TODAY with the roster you already have? While health is still the #1 bugaboo this team has to deal with, the roster is NOT some 100 loss team. Personally, while I read projection articles, I tend to dismiss them. They are a form of absolutes while the game itself is anything but! Ancient history says the '87 Twins weren't supposed to win. The Royals in 2015 came after decades of losing. The Braves WS "shouldn't" have happened. Hell, the recent challenges by the Rays "shouldn't" have happened. IDC that 75% of the time your lineup faces RHP. You still need bats that can produce runs and wins in those other 25% plus games. So adding young talent is great! But the parent club needs every advantage they can get to eek out every win they can. And right now, I remain so very disappointed the FO hasn't added a solid, ML bat to balance the OF to eek out those wins. This has been going on now for a couple of years. But Martin isn't ready. Celestino has a chance to be a really nice ballplayer, as a starter or high quality 4th OF at worst. But 2 seasons of being pushed too fast has allowed him to fail, hopefully learn, and maybe reach his potential if given some AAA time. Go ahead and add a flier like Adell if you can, on the cheap. Barring some miraculous improvement, he's not going to impact the Twins until the second half of 2023 at best. I know the FO isn't done yet. Too early for them. And I know they've been looking for another RH bat. But time has been running out for weeks now. Right now, unless a flier finds new life on a 1yr deal, FA appears closed. And that's a huge disappointment for me. It's going to take a trade to make an add at this point.

Just a wonderful piece of writing, Nick! Well said! Having lived the majority of my life in Nebraska as a transplanted South Dakotan, and being about as big of a HUSKER fan as you can be, there has always been a terrible misconception about Lincoln, NE and UNL here. After all, in the heart of the country, we are still referred to as "fly over" territory. When prospects arrive here for visits...from all over the country...even those who don't commit here constantly comment how they expected cornfields everywhere and for Lincoln to be some small, farming town. Those that attend fall in love with the university and Nebraska and it's people. Many stay here and live their lives. The rest remain HUSKERS for life and regularly stay in touch and visit. And I believe Minnesota, and the CITIES...as you spoke about...are often viewed in the same manner once players are actually here. And I believe everything Correa has spoken of in praise is honest. I've always been pleased by how many former Twins are regular visitors and attendees for events and ST. Guys like Blyleven and Carew and the great Oliva, amongst many others, seem to remain Twins at heart. And the number of broadcasters over the years seem to have that same attachment. And while I'm certain all teams have this alumni participation to some degree, the genuine love and appreciation for the Twins and Minnesota is something very real, IMO. And while we can debate ownership and the FO for things they do, and don't do, I've never heard former players or agents ever admonish TWINS TERRITORY or ownership, or the FO. In fact, it's been quite the opposite. In fact, I've heard and read many comments from agents that they have great respect for the FO and how they conduct business. The recent Correa re-sign and Boras comments reflect that, I believe. Does being "Minnesota Nice" give us a leg up in FA? Unfortunately, not really. Money, opportunity for more and big city appeal are still going to rule for many, if not most. And Correa's openness about being here, and Boras's flattering comments, are not going to make Minnesota a destination spot where players are going to accept a warm and fuzzy discount. After all, money and opportunity still speak loudest. But it does provide a legitimacy to doing business the "right way", and help paint a better picture of what to expect when you are a member of the Twins. (Or any team). (I was pleased and proud, as a Twins fan, when covid hit and the Twins were one of the first and few teams who didn't cut staff and continued to pay staff and milb players). It CAN assist in close contracts or re-signings, such as Buxton. And I do agree that not everyone is cut out to be in a market where you have 20 microphones in your face after a game, and 5 major newspapers and 30 talk shows examining everything you do. Doing things the right way and an overall sentiment of nice doesn't win games or titles. But it can't hurt. Especially when you treat players with respect and class. And again, Correa isn't going to bring in some FA on a massive, under-slot deal because he's a great player who actually loves being here. But his cache, and the opportunity to actually play here, IMO, helps change the perspective of what its like to play and live in "fly over" country. GO TWINS!

While I wish Farmer hit RHP a little better, I really like having him as a super-utility player with a solid bat. Assuming he's not traded...and I don't see it happening...Gordon teams with Farmer to offer a tremendous amount of flexibility off the bench. Eventually, possibly soon, I see Lewis and Lee settling in at 2B/3B in some combination. That hurts me saying it as Polanco is one of my favorite Twins and I think he's got more than a few really good years in him. Of course, Lewis could become an OF or even a super-utility player that's in the lineup DAILY at multiple positions should they choose to keep Polanco. Of course, both Lee and Lewis can spell Correa if/when Farmer is gone. What about Miranda? No reason he can't move between 3B/1B/DH and share 1B with a healthy AK, who can also play some OF as well. This is a very nice "problem" for the Twins to have! The writing is on the wall, I believe, that Martin is just not a SS. He should be in LF and covering CF as well. He can fill in at 3B/2B, which is where he played in college. Miller is young enough, and far away enough that I don't even have him in the equation yet. While NOT a SS. I do wonder about the future of Julien though. Could he wind up at 2B with Lewis in the OF? But then again, we still have to make a decision on Polanco eventually. Does Julien "take over" for Arraez as a bat/offense first handy man who can even DH some? Again, this is a wonderful "problem" to have, fitting in so many talented young players. The reality is, whether now or maybe next year, the Twins are probably going to move a young OF and someone from the INF equation for additional help somewhere else.

Hey, I'm right there with you. There is no reason to not have middle/long relief with the arms on hand and let them push for rotation spots. The Cardinals are an example brought up often where they will use young SP in the pen to add, while getting their feet wet and move to the rotation. And I'm not saying the Twins should extend Gray or Maeda. But I think there's a lot of life still in Gray's arm, even at 33, as long as he puts the work in to keep his hamstrings solid. Not sure about Maeda being traded. Maybe. I think if the Twins are at the top of the ALC, Maeda is kept unless one of the kids are proving they are ready. I think Mahle is the wild card. Just my opinion, but I think they see him just about to hit his career high. I believe they traded for him with the idea of an extension. I'm just saying...and I think we're mostly on the same page...extensions are possible. And I think all hands on deck are possible. But I think Mahle is the #1 target. I'm just not certain a trade of talent for a mid rotation SP like Lopez for 2yrs is the right move with what's available and coming up.

The thing that I've been thinking about the last year or so...when the whole international draft proposal was debated and then tabled...is what's best for these young kids? On the one hand, in the U.S. we've all heard stories about "agents" working with HS age kids and helping them "find" the best college program for them. And we've heard similar stories over the years for different coaches and advisors and the such who have contacts with ML clubs and help steer players a certain direction. I just keep wondering what's best for these international kids, who are 16-17yo and NOT 17-18yo U.S. HS players elgible for the draft and usually have college options available to them. Any draftee beyond a certain round...and I forget the recent changes...has an on table offer of around $10k minimum. As do draftees who aren't selected. (Again, forgive my memory for all the recent changes in draft structure). Are these international kids better off signing for whatever they can get, and the OPPORTUNITY to make salaries and the CHANCE to "make jt" better served by the current system? I think MLB limiting $ to be spent is "fair" in regard to teams with massive $ available to spend as they would like, creating a sort of draft-like scenario for the sport. I almost want to say that spreading the $ around, as the system is currently constructed, might be better and allow more opportunity for the not top prospects. I don't have the answers, but I think it should be examined. From the Twins perspective, Castro appears to have a frame that doesn't need to grow much more to be a viable prospect with tools. Just continued development as a player and a few more "man muscles" as he fills out to a 195lbs. Chivilli seems to have the requisite athleticism to play SS. I love the idea of a long 6' 3" SS with ability to grow and fill out, as long as he doesn't outgrow the position. I made a comment in a pre-signing thread that it seemed the Twins never signed catchers or pitchers in the Latin market as a priority. And now, here they did. From reports, he's got an arm and a catcher frame of mind with at least some offensive potential. But he obviously has to add bulk/weight/muscle to a smaller frame without growing too big. I think it's crazy we speculate on 16-17yo kids who are probably 5-7yrs from potentially making the ML. BUT it's part of the equation. The one thing that has surprised me is the lack of catchers signed by the Twins previously, or any top arm prospects signed. Now, I fully understand we're talking about 16-17yo kids, and there is a huge percentage of young arms...and catchers...who never work out, international or HS...but they just seem adverse to taking shots on the "maybe" options that are available. And maybe they are just being smart and playing the percentages. But I can't help but wonder if they shouldn't re-think their international approach and take a shot once in a while on potential for something other than a positional "athlete".

Two quick points here: 1] The Twins just aren't done making moves yet. So I believe the OP is 2-3 weeks early. 2] I don't feel "this winter" is accurate as I believe the topic really should be "have the Twins improved over the opening day roster from last year? Again, with the caveat, the Twins aren't done yet. That being said up front, they are ABSOLUTELY better than the opening day 2022 roster. While "return to good health" almost dominates any further discussion, having Mahle and Maeda over Bundy and Archer is a huge improvement. Then, we add Winder, Varland, and SWR to the discussion after some ML experience and continued growth and experience and the rotation is seemingly in much better hands. Duran is now a proven stud. Lopez doesn't have to maintain the incredible and almost impossible 1st half he had with Baltimore to be very good. Jax really found a home in the pen and has room to grow. Moran, while a little inconsistent, flashed and showed he can be part of the pen in a good and potentially excellent way if he can harness/develop his slider more. This time last year, Duran, Jax, and Moran were all question marks. I'm seeing a path where Sands, Henriquez, Winder, Dobnak, even Varland and SWR could all be possibilities at some point as middle/long men. (A couple milb signings MIGHT surprise and do well in this role as well). Based on his talent and 2nd half of 2021...and a few brief glimpses early in 2022...I think Alcala could end up making a big difference. I would attempt a pretty bad and humorous gig if the Twins would drop another $6/7-13/14M by add one or two available arms to the pen to NOT have to count on a couple of the young arms right out of the gate...and be rid of Pagan for whatever they can get for him. But I like this pen better than the one that began 2022. Is the infield better? I liked Urshela a lot, but see the reasoning for moving on. IMO, Miranda will be better, and OK, at 3B with a better bat. Overall push there. But Farmer provides a nice role player we didn't really have last year. Arraez did a fine job at 1B. A healthy Polaco is a very, very good ballplayer. IF Kirilloff is really ready to go...from day one or not...he really changes the complexion of the infield. (While helping in the OF as well). Overall, the infield is no worse, but maybe better with Farmer on hand, and definitely better with a healthy AK. Sanchez was not as bad as I expected defensively. But his offense left a ton to be desired. I think Vasquez IS an improvement due to defense and game calling. He also provides "help" and experience for Jeffers the way Castro did for Garver a few years ago. Hopefully, like Garver before him, Jeffers can relax a little bit, continue to grow in his game, and start to reach his offensive potential with less pressure and build on his 500 career AB. Right now, TODAY, I see little to no improvement in the OF. I see POTENTIAL improvement in the OF BEYOND just better health in regard to Larnach, AK, and even Buxton, BUT, don't see IMMEDIATE improvement. I'm not sold on Gallo. But numbers are numbers over several seasons. Gallo is a different hitter than Kepler. But despite his horrendous 2022, Gallo still has a higher OB%! SLG%, and career OPS over Kepler. (50 point advantage in OPS). And Gallo is an excellent defender. He's AT LEAST a slight improvement over Max if we get the previous 2017-2021 version of him. There's a gamble there, to be sure, but a potential payoff. But for the 3rd year in a row, where is the RH option to just balance the OF? Martin isn't ready. Celestino has been pushed twice to the ML club when nit ready and could really use time to round off some rough edges and fully develop his potential. And Garlick...at least temporarily removed from the roster...has been lone RH bat with power and production WHEN HEALTHY enough to do so on a 25-35% opportunity to face LHP. Is it really so hard to find a single, decent, RH OF and bat who can play decent defense, be good against LHP, and not just embarrass themselves against RHP once in a while? I DO think the roster, right NOW, is better than the one that began 2022. But I also say, again, we're going to have this exact same OP when ST begins and some additional changes have been made. Just crossing my fingers until then those moves included a decent RH bat option, one more quality pen arm, and a "wait and see" attitude as to whether a SP option is made that actually makes sense for potential improvement.

Agreed. And the way to go when you don't have a dominate #1. And my problem isn't Lopez per say. Maybe the Twins really like something about him and think he's just going to take off the next year or two. But I don't see a 6 man rotation. And while long and middle relief needs to come from somewhere, what about Winder, SWR, and Varland as young arms that are ready or "oh so close" rather than adding someone on a 2yr deal? Does Lopez have the Twins trading someone like Gray then? I know we 3 guys who CAN be gone next year, but any of them could be extended as well. Nothing against Lopez, as I've stated, I'm just not sure what the plan is here.

I wouldn't mind having Lopez at all. Still only 26yo and might be about ready to take another step. But his K per 9 IP is mediocre and 2022 was his 1st season with more than 21 GS. Does he really project as a potential breakout stud? The numbers seem to indicate really solid middle starter.

While NOTHING is guaranteed, I've stated more than a few times that the "forgotten" Paddack might have us screaming for an extension come some point in 2024. The youth and talent is there. The early results, SSS given in 2022 with the Twins, seem to indicate the FO wasn't exactly stupid in their desire to add him. They've liked him for a while. I just didn't think they would do an extension this early. But in the long run, the $ is virtually negligible if they're wrong. And if they are right, they will have an arm that will "hopefully" toss a few IP at the end of 2023 to shake off rust. And again, if right, he might just be a mainstay in 2024, possibly ramping up and getting better and better. And also be locked up for 2025. I 100% believe the Twins will lock up at least 1 of Gray or Mahle for 2024 and beyond. My bet is Mahle, who I'm betting only had a "tired" arm from trying to do too much after a weird offseason, as he's stated himself. But the Paddack deal is "cheap" by ML standards for a solid/quality SP.

I had some small hope Leon would come back as a AAA catcher on a milb deal. But I can't be disappointed about the addition of Wolters. He's basically a younger version of Leon. Sisco, IIRC, was with St Paul last year but had some injury issues and barely played. As stated, the shine has dulled to black for a former top prospect. But he's been around, still has some talent, and who knows if a light will suddenly turns on and he becomes a solid #3 option. Really happy Carmago stuck with the Twins. I believe he will begin 2023 at AA, but I think he's on an escalator, though I don't know what floor he will step out on. I'm thinking he's a "Butera" with more power. Really, really wish Banuelos could learn to hit even a little. He's been to ST now at least twice because of his game calling and defense. Williams being included surprises me. Is he a AAA 1B, or is he a catcher? I've heard he's very smart behind the plate. And I get milb catchers spend time at other positions, especially if they have a good bat, to keep them in the lineup. But he's spent so much more time at other positions, I have to believe his shoulder in college just never took hold and he's REALLY a 1B/DH who CAN catch. Very surprised Isola wasn't invited. I think he's a similar player to Williams. The TOP catching prospects in the system are all in A ball. And there are about 5-6 of them. Carmago is an OK prospect. That makes the development of Jeffers and the signing of Vasquez that more important. What is somewhat humorous is the projected AAA roster has 6 guys who can catch. Castro could be a surprise as a super utility guy. He's nothing special. He doesn't move the needle. But he's young enough, has flashed briefly, that you have to wonder if MAYBE a light comes on and he turns in to a solid ML utility player. Other than that, a couple RP in their 26-ish years with potential and options who might develop, and can provide a couple decent arms, at worst, to ride the shuttle between St Paul and the parent club. And that's not a bad thing. But I have to admit, I am VERY intrigued by Sisk and Laweryson and parts they MIGHT play in 2023 and beyond. All in all, not a bad invite list. But I would prefer the FO say "screw it" and bump the payroll to $160M plus and add another RP and RH bat. But I don't think they are done yet.

I've seen enough of Moran to be impressed, over and beyond his AAA numbers, which I can't explain. I think he's a legit 6th-7th inning option who can be solid. Now, if he can tweak his slider a little bit, maybe it becomes more of a slurve...and the Twins are generally very good at working on sliders and adaptations of such...he could be a real weapon by being stronger against LH hitters. Good to serious BP weapon is tweaking that 3rd offering. I've been championing the idea of Chaffin, or Hand, as another LH BP option to work with Thielbar. And I still think that would be smart. But I think Moran is a keeper.

I always believe in advancing your roster, tweaking your roster, etc, to put together the best TEAM together you can. And yes, trades of talent is a great way to add to or augment your roster. But, unfortunately, if you take a step back and REALLY LOOK at the Twins roster as of now, where is the glaring hole? FA still offers a couple solid RP options and the Twins should jump at the chance to add at least ONE to deepen the pen and not just trust in a full return to form/potential of Alcala. Fulmer being brought back makes so much sense! I think Moran has a bright future, but he's still better against RH bats. How about a 1yr on Hand? That's $ spent, and no trades, to deepen the pen and make the whole staff better. And speaking of the staff, rotation in particular, what is the obsession with adding Lopez, with 2yrs of control? He's young, talented, and MIGHT be on the precipice of being better. But is he better than what we have right now? Is he better than a healthy Gray and Mahle? I am NOT opposed to adding a RP or 2 if the $ work out. And this team ABSOLUTELY needs another RH bat despite Correa being back. And I'm NOT opposed to trading for a quality young SP to add with control. The OF is too crowded. If we move Kepler and Gallo is not the player he was the previous 6yrs before 2022, we run a real risk. But when do we not trust in Larnach, and Kirilloff, (also at 1B), and Wallner, with Gordon as a fill-in? I hate to say it, but the biggest trade "problem" the Twins have is timing. If Arraez is a prize in a deal, and he should be, his potential replacements for what he does are Martin and Julien. Not to mention Lewis and Lee, though slightly different offensive profiles. Could Martin or Julien jump to the ML level to replace what Areaez does to the lineup at this point? That's a huge stretch. IMO, Kirilloff is off the table for anyone until his surgery proves he's ready to fulfill his talent/potential. And while I don't want to trade away talent...who does...I'm looking at Arraez/Julien. Larnach/Wallner, and at least one arm in SWR/Varland/Balazovic/Festa. I might even look hard at Severino as a young and super talented young kid who finally started to put it together in 2022. IF the Twins could trade from this list, minus Arraez maybe, and maybe substitute a young A player that is NOT Rodriguez somewhere, I'd be happy to do so. Again, the Twins trade options bite is a number of really talented prospects to deal either not proven enough yet for value to the other team, or potentially not ready enough yet to step up to the ML level with the Twins as a replacement option. Just feels like the Twins are 6-12 months away of really seeing a TON of young talent pounding on the door, if they haven't already broken through. So do we trade early? Or do we see all the talent on hand do what it can when healthy and go from there?

The Twins were always on his short list. Unless you enjoy the "of course" game. His investment in the team in his one previous season shows his honesty. (The guy literally knew the top 30-40 prospect list). And he was a leader from day one. He's been in communication with Twins teammates, and even members of the FO, since the season ended. The Twins initial offer included opt outs to be "creative" in order to bring him back. Notice how there are NO opt outs as well as a no trade clause in this deal? Was he wrong to chase a $350M deal or a $315M deal? Absolutely not. But the long term play by both teams to circumvent the tax cap and just eat $ the final years didn't work. Good for the Twins. Good for Correa. He likely spends the rest of his career with one of the teams he wanted to sign with. And what's amazing is even though Correa himself has control over the final 4yrs to some degree, incentives and PA, the Twins still maintain a great degree of control as well. And by year 10, even if Correa is a 38yo 1B/DH utility type player, his salary will only be $10M. That's probably about a $5M veteran bat in today's market. He brings quality in so many ways as a ballplayer, a leader, an extremely intelligent spunding board, a face of the franchise, and even as an example the Minnesota is not just a "fly over" franchise, but one who is trying to actually win. I wouldn't be shocked if 10yrs from now, if he still wants to be in the game still, if he wasn't part of the organization in some capacity.

Correa had a short list of teams he wanted to play for, and for the rest of his career. The Twins were on that list. He was so engaged in his first season with the Twins that he not only became an immediate leader and friend to the clubhouse, he actually reviewed the milb talent coming up. He's been engaged on social media with many of his Twins teammates. The initial Giants offer was only $20-25M more than the Twins, but over 12-13yrs. Had they stuck to that, he might have remained a Twin from day 1. The initial Mets offer was very close to the initial Twins offer, but also longer years. Each high market team trying to play a long game to avoid luxury tax as much as possible. I could never blame Correa for jumping at a HUGE deal in a market that seemed to explode over night and look to the Giants. Or the Mets, who's deal I never quite understood due to a move to 3B, the length and lower AAV. But looked what happened when both teams got cold feet while playing the long term manipulation game? The Twins are NOT a consolation prize for Correa. They ended up with not only the biggest payout, but the highest potential payout without all the weird manipulations and clauses. And they were/are one of the teams on his short list he wanted to finish his career with. Think about my last comment. A team he wants to finish his career with. No opt outs. No trade clause. Six guaranteed years and 4 team option years, with declining salaries, and some fairly easy player clauses that still provide Twins control, ultimately. He's here for the long haul. Yes, he wanted $. But he wanted a team to call HOME for the rest of his career. And he found it with the Twins. It might have taken a bizarre route to get HOME, but the Twins never played games. They were open from day one and got a great deal done for both sides, WITHOUT Correa needing or wanting an opt out, which was part of their original offer. The Twins were the 3rd and final team to make this all happen. But we weren't some 3rd runner up. We were the right fit at the end of the day.

I've been a fan of Kepler. I think it's time for both sides to part ways, a fresh start for Max, and greater opportunity for the young guys to shine. (provided the injury curse is finally over!). But Kepler DOES have value for any team. Miami might like him as PART of a package to raise their floor both offensively and defensively. But he'd only be the #2 or #3 piece for a top young SP with control. Max might be perfect for a team that believes that they can compete in 2023 but may be unsettled in the OF. I think that's part of the reason there have been on again and off again rumors that the Yankees might be interested. Could Kepler help bring in a pitcher? Yes. Is he more likely to bring in a quality RP? Yes. His best value, if he is indeed traded, is a solid young AA level player or two to replace what the Twins trade from the system to someone else to acquire said hypothetical pitcher. Trade prospects, bring another solid 1 or 2 back.

I'm fine with McCutchen as an option, despite having a rather down 2022. I'm willing to trust in his career mark against LHP. But I also really like Mancini. He's capable of playing the OF corners and gives the Twins a RH 1B option as well to help balance Arraez and Kirilloff.

I've said for some time I think the Twins are hoping to keep him around at St Paul, like they did with Cave last year, in the form of insurance. And I'm hoping that happens.

It's never a problem to have "too much talent" on your roster. But at some point, SOMEONE will be moved for pitching or prospects. And while it's hard to predict exactly where guys will settle in, the versatility of all easily allows site of the various possibilities. Lewis can start at 2B/3B/OF and still backup SS. Lee can start at 2B/3B and also backup SS. Martin ends up in the OF but can help cover 2B/3B, his college positions. He's basically RH Gordon. Miranda can play both 1B/3B as needed. As previously mentioned, Julien is missing from the OP. You make room for him somewhere. Maybe he's a faster, more powerful and similar player to Arraez and fills a similar role. Polanco and Arraez might be my favorite two Twins. They are both excellent hitters and neither is old. There is no reason for them to go anywhere. But sheer numbers indicate that one of them, or both, or a couple of the prospects will be moved at some point.

Exactly. Peripheral roster moves MIGHT pay dividends at some point. But every single team plays the end of the 40 man roster DFA game to add some players you hope to sneak through and keep for depth and AAA depth. Alexy is another. He's probably DFA in a few days for someone like Fulmer is added to the roster. It's just the game within the game hoping lightning strikes at some point and you find a potential keeper. Once in a while you find a keeper. And that's it.