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  1. I’ve seen Moneyball, and read the book, many times. Both are A+ baseball stories, but the movie comes at the book in a slightly different way. For example, Jeremy Brown is a pretty big part of the book, but only really appears in the film at the very end. The irony of the Moneyball franchise, both book and film, is that Oakland’s great starting rotation of those years isn’t really discussed. Starting pitching is more art than science. Let’s hope Falvey and Levine have brought back some scouts with an innate talent for evaluating pitching, and that they start listening to those scouts. Without Berríos now, that’s the way this team becomes competitive again in 2022.
  2. I have weighed the pros and cons of both sides, even if it looks like I am only playing one side. There is plenty of support for your side being expressed in this thread. This is a tough situation, and one entirely of their own making.
  3. Oh not all commenters, but some, yes definitely I do feel downplay the winning aspect, and what winning can do for the fan base, and what two back to back losing seasons might also do. Thanks for asking. Pitchers and players are thought of as assets and resources (and I don’t mind when fans on a discussion board do this) but I heard Thad Levine call some players “expiring assets” in a radio interview last week. So I have to wonder if that’s how they actually think about the players on the roster up there in the executive offices. It’s as if what happens on the field and in the clubhouse is secondary. Yes that is the impression I get.
  4. Not all commenters here, but some, yes. Pitchers and players are instead though of as assets and resources (which is fine for fans on a discussion board) and even Thad Levine used the phrase “expiring assets” in an interview I heard recently. So I do get the sense that what happens on the field is secondary for some people.
  5. Imagine having a pitcher so good that he’s confident in making a lot of money in free agency a year and a half down the road. But I hadn’t heard what you guys are hearing about Berrios asking for $40 million a year.
  6. I would be happy to have that conversation about which of the young pitchers they traded for might pan out. Maybe that's something for the offseason. I don't know how anyone can think trading away Berríos makes the team better for 2022, because, first, obviously, they will need to replace Berrios. We are always asked to "wait to cast judgment etc." month after month, year after year. I don't know which of these pitchers projects to reach the level of Berríos either next year or in the following years. Frankly, probably none of them. One of them might. Which one? I think commenters on this forum talk about running a franchise like it's a board game, and have forgotten how valuable winning can be.
  7. I made an honest reply to you. This next reply of yours is unserious. The deadline is past. The roster going into 2022 is the essentially the same roster of 2019 and 2020, but with worse pitching.
  8. No, the best case scenario for keeping Berrios in 2022 is that the team wins again and goes deep into the postseason—maybe even the World Series— and gives the fan base a fun, thrilling story to follow along with, and generates a ton of good will and positive media.
  9. On the contrary, I think trading Berríos is the low risk move. Going into 2022 with essentially the same team we had in 2019, 2020, 2021 and your two best players in their final years... that is the high risk, high reward move, in my opinion.
  10. Then you know how it feels! The way this front office operates, it feels way too much like Minnesota Twins: The Board Game™
  11. Because Berríos is under control for 2022, the penalty in this case is incurred by the Twins, in my opinion. I'm sure I still have that data somewhere. I will find it and put it in a blog, and maybe update it. We'll see. My hypothesis was that truly promising prospects do not change hands from team to team. One player who stands out as an exception as I recall is Carlos Gonzalez and the great years he had in Colorado.
  12. Great. Prospects twice-traded do not fare well. I actually looked at this a couple years ago. There were a couple of exceptions of course and maybe something has changed since I looked or maybe this is “the one”
  13. A trade for low minors players wont be able to judge the trade for several more years well played, falvine. well played
  14. The Twins could throw in Rickey Robinson! \n/ (Thats our fictional stolen base coach ; game thread inside joke)
  15. I’m happy for Caleb. He has generated a lot of whiffs this season and is probably our third or fourth best RP. If he is traded he would be low on the bullpen ladder of his new team (in other words, a low leverage guy).. nothing wrong with that, and he would be in a pennant race, so that would be fun.
  16. What about getting both Buxton and Berríos to sign something like 6/130 together? It could be like the Parise/Suter contracts all over again!
  17. I think statements like this are called “opinions” and not “inalienable truths” Pineda pitched well again tonight. Duffey seemed his usual shaky self. Colomé, as LaBombo put it in the game thread, is costing himself money on his next contract every time he pitches. I don’t know if there’s a coach on the Twins with the temperament to tell him that in no uncertain terms, but maybe there ought to be.
  18. I would also be curious about the counter proposal, as well as the incentives. A base offer of 7/73 is... ah i don’t know
  19. Duran should start 2022 in the Twins MLB bullpen, which should both help the Twins and also manage his innings in a more natural way than him trying to be a starter after two seasons of minimal innings. Clear out the 40-man. Carrying guys like Thorpe and Smeltzer has already cost the Twins opportunities for guys like Tyler Wells. And as usual they will have to sign the right free agents this offseason.
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