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Yeah, but all of the division falling flat on their faces seems unlikely. Hold your breath till something good happens isn't much of a plan..

Hmm. It might be simpler to have a list that is Twins who played well last year and the other 20+ need to step up 1. Arreaz 1A. Duran 2. Gordon 3. Miranda Everyone else...

Cohens spending is not good for my love or the game. The Twins lack of spending is even worst for my love of the game. The Pirates have spent more on FA's then the Twins. Hopefully the Mets wins a world series or two and the other owners will be forced to do something real to address inequality of the sport. With the new labor agreement I don't see much changing until this one has run it course...I'm preparing for four years of disappointment.

I saw this earlier today and was hoping it worked out in the Twins favor. But on second thought I hope it works out for Carlos Correa. Whatever that may be. Some athlete with a knee/leg/ whatever issue. I get it. 8-12 years with that in the background has to be cause for pause. BUT if you're signing anyone for that long you already threw caution to the wind. Stop trying to buy low and take care of the guy and his family. Did we notice anything last season. I sure didn't.

Most of these moves I agree with. I'm just not certain what the FO has in mind. At this point it looks to me like it's a let the kids play plan and not worry about competing for the division. If that is where it ends up then 1 year contracts is all I would expect from this FO, Eovaldi isn't really worth the lost pick and Adames doesn't make much sense then. The Twins are stuck in-between being completive and burning it down. So many key young players injured last season. That cost them a year of cheap control and no answers on most of them. Who knows what the young guys will do in a full season. Now throw in most of best starters are gone after this season..

Pablo Lopez would be a fine addition to a team trying to win. If this FO actually has a plan...and if it is to compete...He could help. The cost would be high. With them being paralyzed by sticker shock on free agents I can't seem them parting with the players it would take to get Lopez in a Twins jersey..

The Mets are going to have a payroll of the next two highest spending teams combined at this rate..

I still hate this signing. Joey Gallo or Michael Brantley I know which one I would prefer...

If Gallo is worth $11 mil by their charts, spreadsheet's or whatever. Sano must be worth 12x1. Sign me up! One more season wearing his jersey would only mean i threw away 1/2 my money.

IDK why but this seems pretty simple to me. Creating fan support requires buzz. Yeah know, like last season. We got who to play SS? Now we've lost out on Correa. Ok, I can live with that. But get a few other guys to excite the fan base! Gallo...on a 1 years deal...Bad enough we've moved on from Sano who we've all rooted for at one point or another. MTB trade rumors says we're interested in Turner and Pollack..An hour later Turner signs with the Red Sox...6 years in and now we're looking at a likely reset? I'm 6 year's into my current employment. If I stop doing my job, I don't make year 7....the FO job is to win games, fill the stands and create buzz. i.e....excitement...Not succeeding, are you? You do realize you are in the entertainment industry?

No Correa...Well let's load up one-year veterans. If we can even due that. Crushing offseason so far..

There is not a low enough letter to grade this... $11 mil for 79 OPS+ last season.. $500K 80 OPS+ last season...Gilberto Celestino. Money well spent in comparison. Now 1/3 of our roster or 1/2 of our position players are LH corner outfielder...

After seeing the Gallo signing I want to thank Ted for the welcome distraction. I think Lewis will get to the bigs 1st. Lee has a lot to prove in AA next season. There is a lot to like about the Twins infield and outfield prospects. But another full season will make it a bit clearer.

I try and be positive about the Twins but JeZus H Ch>>st...Gallo? I tied to say a few things about it, but I give up. I can't even pretend to understand this one...

Yikes! Let's reup Sano as well. That way we have 40% k rate from both side of the plate...

In this market that's a good contract. Congrats to both of them.

and I thought I was the only one. cheers!

WOW this thread really grew today. Well done mnfireman! You found the soft spot. I get the anger/frustration. I'm not happy either. I'm not one to punt on much of anything. So maybe I'm naive. To steal from a fictional character: "Fear is the path to the dark side...fear leads to anger...anger leads to hate...hate leads to suffering." The Phantom Menace (Yoda) I'm not there yet.

No they definitely haven't improved at this point. There is still time but no star players left imo. I'd like to see a good starter added (not named Rodon) another 7th or 8th inning BP arm and a RH 1B/OF. If the FO wants to make a splash how about a trade for Devers? Say Lee for Devers (with an agreed upon extension. Something like 12x28.5, 11x29.25 or 10x30?). Devers is only 25 and can move to 1b and then DH in the later years. Keep Miranda at 1st with Kirilloff or Arreaz.

Carlos Correa does not a World Series bring. At this point investing in Swanson and/or Rodon seems like a panic move. Spreading the money out over lets say a SP on contracts 3 years or less, a RH bat and a BP arm or two. Raise the floor of the team. Run it back and see where you're at at the deadline. If we're completive keep at it. Anything else blow it up. Don't forget we are in the AL central. It's not going to take 100 wins to take the division.

Did the Twins get moved into the AL East or NL west because they didn't sign Correa? NO? So we're still in the central? Blow the whole thing up because we didn't get the guy we weren't expected to get to begin with? Sound a lot like the Packer fans I have to listen to everyday this season. R-E-L-A-X...Go shovel some snow. Let the dog go play in the snow. EXHALE.

Disappointing but not a huge surprise. Should be interesting to see how/if they pivot. On the plus side, there should be plenty of good seats available next season....cheap...

Wasn't De Leon one of the pieces offered for Dozier? I vaguely remember something about him and Bellinger for Dozier. But the Dodger wouldn't part with Bellinger.

Vázquez fits what the FO talks about from the catcher position the best imo of all the free agent catchers. 3 for 30 is reasonable and if there was a lot of compitation involved probably necessary to get it done. He provided 2.1 WAR last season. If that continues its a bargain at 10 mil per. There were trades that may have been an even better fit, but the recourses needed for those are much harder to replace. Also, I'd like to point out that as the years have gone on, they have been spending more aggressively. Let's hope that continues.

You throw a nice 12 to 6 curveball on that one.