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I'm going to have to disagree on this being a make-or-break season for Polanco. 1st off I'm high on all the prospects named but to expect to go 4 for 4 on them being impact big leaguers is to way to optimistic even for me. Polanco has/is/will be an impact big leaguer at least for a few more seasons. No his salary isn't and shouldn't be a driving force to trade him. By WAR he brings excess value even in an injury filled season like 2022. With some of the contracts we saw this offseason he's a bargain 3-5 WAR player.

Which ever one signs an extension...or Joe Ryan.

and he's a year younger then both Miranda and Polanco at that level

Jose Salas 2022 19 A-A+ MIA 109 474 412 69 103 20 4 9 41 33 1 43 95 .250 .339 .384 .723 158 8 14 2 3 Jose Miranda 2018 20 MIN-min A,A+ 131 552 503 61 133 27 1 16 82 0 3 31 62 .264 .319 .417 .736 210 19 12 0 6 0 Jorge Polanco 2014 20 MIN-min A+,AA 131 589 524 74 151 23 6 7 61 17 11 55 88 .288 .353 .395 .748 207 8 1 3 6 1 Seems like he compares well to a couple of current Twins. I can see projection putting him in the top 10.

I've been a Sano supporter for a long time so I'm biased. Id like to see the Twins sign him to a minor league deal. I don't want to rely on Kirilloff's wrist to finally be right.

In two full seasons he's gone from 15th round pick to maybe a #3-#5 starter. Hopefully we're talking about maybe a #1-#3 starter by this time next year. Easy guy to root for.

Interesting, Doesn't look all that bad with the numbers attached. After a quick search there's only 4 left handed starters on all the other central division teams. 2 on Detroit and 2 on KC. Neither are expected to offensive juggernauts so maybe splits are even less important.

More AAA depth. I know I'm one of the few but if I can stomach Gallo's Ks I can root for the big fella as well. The hit tool is still there somewhere..maybe..

1 though 10 I'd take the Twins. 1 through 5 Cleveland. If I remember right Cleveland had very few injuries last season. At one point last season I counted 18 Twins on the IL and Cleveland had 2 or 3. I highly doubt either team will repeat their luck good or bad this coming season. Also, Triston McKenzie may be an ace, but one good season isn't enough for me to call him one yet. The season before he had a 4.95 era and 4.5 walks per nine.

Sands seems like the best fit for moving to the BP fulltime. Ober I think will remain a starter. Winder and Henriquez I think get another season to figure it out. Like others mentioned with as many as 3 starter spots open in 2024, I'd expect most of the starter prospects will get a longer look. When is the last time the Twins had this many starter prospects close to or ready to contribute in the bigs?

Yeah, I knew it had something to with injuries and Wichita. But wanted to point out that he played well. If he makes it back to the Saints this season, he might earn his way into the top 30.

I just hope the offensive side is middle of the pack or better. Then I'd say they're the best outfield in the bigs

I just want to point out Dalton Shuffield had quite a debut season. 10th round pick in 2022 and playing is St Paul by the end of the season. Probably to small of a sample to get to excited about but I wanted to throw his name out there. https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=shuffi000dal

I would think Lewis will be on the 60 day IL as well

I was not and still am not a fan of this signing. BA, OBP, SLUG, K rate. I'm not going to tie my opinion to them. Another Left handed corner outfielder seems like a waste of a roster spot. One gets traded, ok I'm a little more on board. If he ends up playing a lot of 1b, because Kirilloff can't swing a bat, I'm a little more on board. and so on... He is on the team so of course I'll be rooting for him to have a great year.

We could use another guy or two in the pen. My thought was after spring training opens and roster spots open up from 60 day IL guys. I posted a few days ago on BTV was AJ Puk and Dany Jimenez for Round A Comp pick.

As a whole I like the way they're building the team. Do I like every move. Nope, but overall to me most feel like a move in the right direction. Trading for players with an injury history is worrisome. Then I look at the Rangers paying $17 mil for Eovaldi for 2023 season..Same or worse injury history.. Lopez and Mahle will cost $12.9 mil A contract extension or two for the guys they've traded for would make me like their approach much more and I need at least one of their draft picks to develop into an all star. I'm not 100% on board with this FO and the way they're building the team.

the FO signed a LH corner OF who plays good to great defense, spent $200 mil on a good to great defensive SS, spent $30 mil on a good defensive catcher and traded for a good to great defensive CFer. Other then Correa none of these players are good to great offensively. Which of these says they're in a hurry to trade a good to great defensive RFer?

This is kind of what I was thinking as well. Martin comps like a RH Arraez. Julien strike me as a LF Polanco as a pro with more walks and strike outs. But that's maybe just me.

I'll take the over on the Mahle, Maeda and Gray (2021 innings pitched 180,106 and 135) But agree on the under (180) on Lopez. My guess is that if they're spending $50+ mil on two players for the next 6 years 3rd place finishes are no acceptable if they want to be here at the end of those contracts. Throw in a slew of young position players ready to contribute and few pitchers who could = Lopez and something has to give. Could it be injury insurance? Sure. I think Correa + Buxton and the pitching pipeline has more to do with it.

I agree with your assessment. A lot has changed since Oct 22. SO much more quality depth. St Paul is going to be our top 10 prospect team with no place for them to play in MLB without an injury. I expect a lot more innings from the starters and a BP piece or two after spring training opens and Paddack and Canterino are put on the 60 day IL. I think they have a good shot at the division. My guess in 87 wins

I agree that one of the guys with more control would have been ideal but as you said that's water under the bridge. We've found out this offseason the FO will do long term contracts on position players. Now we have to hope they are also into extending pitchers they have.

Trading for 2-3 pitcher every season is not sustainable. But trading for 2-3 pitchers with more then a year of control should be sustainable with our own prospects getting into the mix. These trades also buy time for prospects to develop. Id like to point out that 9/11 BP arms are home grown or waiver pick ups Also 4 of the 10 projected starters are this FO's picks 9 of the 14 projected position players were Twins prospects Plus we have almost an entire IF and OF of prospects that could see Target Field this season. That's after all these trades. They must be doing something right with the picks and trades. No no young Nolan Ryan

I like this move. It makes a ton of sense. Celestino spending most or all of 2023 in AAA I think will pay dividends in 2024 and beyond. Taylor covers for Buxton and buys a year of development for Celestino. Win/Win IMO. I really like Sisk and am sorry to see him go. I hope he doesn't come back to haunt us.

This offseason is starting to look like the FO's best so far. I was really down on them a month ago. Running out of guys who MAY pass through waivers is a sign of a good roster. Huge insurance policy for Buxton and RH OF to boot. As for the trade both BP arms with some upside. They both could come back to haunt the Twins. But I like the move.