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  1. Battle ur tail off
    I would prefer a guy with that kind of athletic ability and defensive prowess to play a middle of the diamond position though, wouldn't you?
  2. Battle ur tail off
    I love what Gordon did this year. He was finally healthy and produced. I love his speed, athleticm and ability to play multiple spots. He also seems to have a pretty good persona about him. Big fan after this year, let's hope it wasn't a flash in the pan and he can continue as a piece of this core for awhile.
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    I agree that he plays hard. His attitude inside some players on this roster with more talent would sure make things fun again. Hard to really call for seeing more of him next year, but I agree, he brings something to the Twins that we don't see a ton of anymore. Hats off to him.
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    Some of the soft muscle injuries are another way to say I'm sore. Half of the injuries to this club weren't injuries 10 years ago. That has as much to with guys missing time as anything IMO. It is what it is, but some toughness to be applied to this squad would be the best thing to happen to them. Yes, if you're injured, you are injured. But there are times when we need ya guy, get your butt back out there even if you do have a bruise on your leg. It is the same thing with pulling your guys early all the time or resting them more than most teams. Flat out this team is soft. Cutting this guy I don't think will have any effect on the club. If they really thought we needed to overhaul things, the entire department would be re-worked. Scape-goat is a perfect analogy for this firing.
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    Twins need a strong backup catcher. One that is all defense. They need to figure out SS. They need righthanded pop in the outfield. Pitching? I'd love to have some kind of top arm, but I just don't see it in free agency. Our best hope is that one of these prospects develops. It really is too bad that Canterino got hurt, he IMO is the only one in the higher part of our system that had the stuff and looked the part of a real ace/difference maker. If the Twins can't sign Correa, I don't think it makes any sense to try to bring in high end arms from outside the system. They literally have to see what they have in this gaggle of 7-8 guys that are sitting at MLB/AAA/AA. These are the players that will make a break the Twins for the next 3-4 years. I honestly wouldn't know what to do here if I were the Twins FO. If guys don't get hurt and things shake out, they could compete with the roster they have now + very few additions. However, if all of this young pitching we have BOMBS next year, then everyone is going to be wild if we don't bring anyone in to supplement them. They are in a hard spot IMO.
  6. Battle ur tail off
    I'm not sure this list does us any good as there is a pretty good chance that half or more of these guys resign with the club they are currently playing on...
  7. Battle ur tail off
    I am not sure his agent would even pick up the phone...
  8. Battle ur tail off
    Cleveland Guardians get 7-2/3 out of their starter today. Then they let their top bullpen arm get the last four outs.
  9. Battle ur tail off
    I get what you are saying. And what I am saying is basically, I only want you if you will play for peanuts. If you won't, then good luck. There are always bottom feeder teams that would love to give you an invite to their spring training. Agree on the roster spot. Even if Pagan will play for nothing, I'm not sure it's worth wasting that spot on him when we have a whole pile of youngsters just about ready to break into the league.
  10. Battle ur tail off
    Honestly, I am kind of excited for all of these guys. Also, what is to say that some of these arms that are tabbed as starters now can't become effective relievers? If the Twins are able to employ what they wanted to do all along. Pay 1-2 starters and fill the rest with your pipeline, than I think it makes sense that guys like Varland, SWR, Winder, Ober, etc not be pigeonholed as absolute starting pitchers. Having 2-3 guys in your pen that can go multiple innings would be a huge help if in fact you plan to not use your starters much past the 2nd time through. Had we used(or had available) some of these guys this year to piggyback guys like Bundy, Archer, etc. The rest of our bullpen wouldn't have been beaten up so bad and there would have been no need for guys like Pagan, Duffey, Joe Smith, Megill, etc. One way or the other, I am going to give these guys some credit that for the first time in awhile, it looks as if we have all kinds of useful arms in the top of our system that may be available to use wherever the brass sees fit.
  11. Battle ur tail off
    Tell him you will pay him well less than he would get in arbitration or he will be non-tendered. If he wants to come back at that and be the very last option in the bullpen to start fine, if not, just cut him. If this guy is on my roster, I want him to know flat out that he will produce, or he is getting DFAed. "Hey bud, we will give you a million dollars next year if you are open to the possibility that you are the very first MFer DFA'd if you don't produce. That said, let him know that if he does produce, he could work himself back into a high leverage role. After that tell him take it or leave it. 1 mill or we will non-tender. See ya. No one else will match his arbitration numbers. He is a minor league signing with an invite to spring training type of guy. If indeed the FO goes to arbitration with him and tenders him a deal, this would be another example of the front office using spreadsheets over eyes and brains. He hurts our chance to win. Almost every time he steps on the mound. I would rather have anyone in our entire system take the rubber than this guy. Also, if you don't think retaining him has a negative effect on both the team and the fans, you aren't paying attention. Bring this guy back and EVERYONE will know it's more of the same.
  12. Battle ur tail off
    That part is not. And I think this is more than just Rocco earning back favor with fans, I think the front office needs to as well. Everyone knows they and Rocco adhere to the same philosophy. How many fans do you hear cry to fire them as well? It is quite a few. Honestly, if we look at this big picture, I do feel like their plan is close to working with the pitching. They have some guys that look like they will be big league starters and/or relievers, the key IMO is for one of them to become a "guy" and be the stopper everyone has been waiting for or enough of them that your BP is so strong we can get by with a bunch of 3-5 starters. Injuries killed them this year both on the ML team and the minors. I'm not in the fire them all camp, I would just like them to look inward and be able to adjust on the fly a little more next year. We just saw what beating your head against the wall over and over looks like.
  13. Battle ur tail off
    Then they should have had guys in the pen that could pitch multiple innings to piggyback those guys. They didn't. They mainly went with one inning guys each game.
  14. Battle ur tail off
    I didn't say they had to make a public statement about it, I'm not asking them to do that. I am asking them to look at themselves this offseason, then make changes as to how they go about the games next year. We would all notice a change in what they do if they in fact make it. As for using poor relievers, it's not your only option. When it is a close game and you know your pen is spent and if you pull a starter early say in the 5th , that you might have to use someone like Pagan that day. I guess I am fine with letting Bundy even take another inning than I am hoping that someone who has been performing terribly in a spot he can lose us a game. I do agree though that the way the bullpen was constructed, was surely not conducive to the type of pitching usage strategy them employed this season.
  15. Battle ur tail off
    For me, I just want him to watch the game with his eyes and react accordingly. Having an analytical approach to the season as a whole is fine by me. But when you can see your offense is struggling, it's OK to try and manufacture a run late in the game. When you can see a pitcher has it that day, it is OK to run them out a third time through the order. Especially in situations such as double-header, long stretch of games when your bullpen is tired, etc. In the same view, if a guy doesn't have it, it is OK to pull them early. It is also OK to not use certain players in your pen when you can see they haven't been effective. Pagan, Megill, Columbe, Duffey, etc. Rocco might and probably is an extention of the front office's strategy. I get that. I would however like them all to at least admit that they may not always know 100% the right way to do things. It's OK to change or tweak strategies in order to get the best out of your roster. Can or will they take a step back this offseason and possibly look at some of these things? I don't know if they will, but I sure wish they would.
  16. Battle ur tail off
    I'll lay it out for him. It stems honestly from one thing and one thing alone. Our manager and/or front office pulling pitchers too early and losing games with a bad bullpen. They did this over, and over and over and over and over. EVERYONE could see it wasn't working, yet the arrogance displayed while continuing down that path angered fans. Couple that with a team that makes stupid outs and decisions on the bases and seems to not know much about fundamental baseball, moving runners, getting runners in from third with less than 2 outs, etc and there you have it. Basically, they found ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory quite a bit and that just isn't fun to watch and it's also predictable as a L more times than not.
  17. Battle ur tail off
    I have beaten on this drum for many years. Trust your minor leagues and play them instead of bringing in washups or guys that never really were that good and paying them. Sign and trade for only studs and use your minors leagues to fill out the rest of the team. Obviously there are times when you develop a stud and have to pay them too, but either way, you have high end talent surrounded by young hungry guys. I would much rather have seen some of our minor league arms this year than guys like Pagan, Archer, Joe Smith, etc. There has been a long line of this type of player on the Twins roster making that mid level salary that doesn't perform any better than what you could expect from someone within your system already.
  18. Battle ur tail off
    Get in the office now and give him an offer. Make it fair, but not stupid. If he says no, then move on. Remind him also that you are willing to do another deal like the last one if he can't find what he wants in a long term deal. Tell him he can have 50 mil for one year, who cares. I am not certain that it is worth it to go longer than 5 years with him. 5 years 40-50 per year, I would honestly be fine with that. I just don't want him around here playing 2B, 3B or DH, OPSing .650 and eating up a quarter of our payroll when he is 35-36-37
  19. Battle ur tail off
    Trade him or move him to AAA and I am 100% out as a fan. He is the only guy that has shown any kind of life this second half of the season. He also plays hard all the time. He's had a few errors recently, but alot of that has to do with the fact that we are out of it and no one cares anymore. Fans, coaches, players can all say they do, but when there is nothing left to play for, these kinds of things happen.
  20. Battle ur tail off
    Because they come off as smug and act as if eveything negative that happened wasn't their fault. Fans still pay the players and their salaries. If they would come out and say: Hey, we miscalculated a few things and it is obvious that the way we handled the pitching staff can't be so rigid going forward. We are researching and going to make changes that puts us in the best position to win every single night. We also ackknowledge that we have to do something about all these injuries and from now on, we are going to do our best to prevent them. Instead, it sounds like: Hey, we are smarter than most teams and definitely smarter than all of you fans. Things that happened are out of our control but we will continue to beat our heads against the wall until our way, which by the way, is the right way in case you forgot, works.
  21. Battle ur tail off
    Agree on all 3. I would also add, we may have one of the most dangerous relief pitchers in the game in Duran. Jax emerging as a guy we can count on in the bullpen could also be considered a positive. To point #2 though, counting on Maeda or Paddack is a mistake IMO. Basically, the Twins should act as if those 2 don't even exist and if they give you anything the rest of their careers it is a bonus.
  22. Battle ur tail off
    My main stickers. - Going into the season with 2 terrible starters on your staff, and only 1 guy that was proven(Gray) - Going into the season with a terrible bullpen(after trading away your closer) when you have an unproven and band-aided up starting staff.(just not good overall) - Having a manager that is so insistent on yanking guys early and leaning hard into a terrible bullpen(this will be my #1) They are so rigid with pitching usage, that they forget there is a game going on with humans right in front of their eyes - Not knowing how the run the bases or make basic defensive plays. - Us fans for believing that just signing Carlos Correa would lead us to the playoffs. Had we looked at it fairly, we would see that the gaggle of #4-6 starters, washups and bullpen projects on this team were many. Probably was unrealistic that we had any chance.
  23. Battle ur tail off
    Braves rotation took them to the World Series how many times? More than one group of pitchers in the history of the game I bet. That one stable of 3 or so guys got them to the World Series like 5 times. Unreal you would use them to make this argument. They literally are a bullet point how important guys like that are for your chances. I get the game has changed some, but the point still remains. If you don't have a few of these types of guys, your chances, flat out are not better. I don't care about an obscure series here or there, look at it overall. That list I gave says it all, filled with big name guys. I just don't understand how you can argue your chances are not better to win and advance in the postseason without guys like this.
  24. Battle ur tail off
    I agree Lewis can't be counted on for a ton next year. For one, I don't think he will be ready until mid-season. 2, he has a long injury history the way it is, maybe it is bad luck, maybe he is Buxton's equal. 3, he played here for a couple weeks and while he looked more than ready to make an impact, he will likely take some seasoning before he becomes a true impact player. Look how long it took Buxton to figure out how to hit at the MLB level. Of course, he could be like Miranda and be another stud rookie! All this said, I LOVED the way he looked playing SS and think he can stick there. If Correa is not back here is another option to consider. Make Gordon the everyday SS until Lewis is ready. I think the best move for him is to be a super utility player, but after the way he hit this year, I sure think he has at least put himself into consideration for us as an everyday player. Am I way out of bounds in hoping that Gordon would give you close to league average SS play for 1/2-3/4 of a season?
  25. Battle ur tail off
    How many runs did those starters that only went should I say 5 or 6 give up more than 1 or at most 2 runs? Were there games in the playoffs where some of them went 7-8 of 0-1 run ball to get to where they were ALDS, ALCS, etc? Games that were won, how many of these guys went 4-6 innings giving up 2-3 runs? Yes, yank your guy after 6, but if it's 6 with zero or one(against a WS caliber lineup), that is an ACE to me. There is no doubt in my mind that if we threw our staff out there against WS contending teams in a win or go home situation(Houston, Dodgers, etc), that ZERO of them would be able to hold it to 0-1 through even 5 or 6. Heck, we have seen it this year what happens to the starters we are running out there against this caliber of team.
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