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  1. Hmmm… I suspect if Severino's 2022 #s were actually 344/.401/.572 (.973) with 32 doubles, 30 home runs, and 94 RBI that we would have protected him. Unfortunately he was not even close to that good.
  2. I am bemused by the idea that our “cheap” ownership just needs to pay the market rate to get Rodon. In all likelihood there are at least 7 teams willing to pay 5/125 or whatever the “market” value is. Given the number of choices this year for Rodon why exactly does he choose the Twins? We have been sub .500 the past 2 seasons and MN does not exactly offer a balmy climate nor is tax friendly to top earners . The top free agent pitchers always have a number of choices for top dollar.
  3. The trade was a clear win for the Twins thru any reasonable lens. I know it just kills some fans to say anything good about this FO. This FO has made their share of sketchy moves. This was not one of them. Without a bias of finding fault with everything “FO”, it is pretty hard not to see this trade as a win.
  4. I am grateful for what Smeltzer gave us this year. I think the FO made the right call. There was little evidence that he should take up a 40 man roster spot. There certainly are arguably others on the 40 man that should be dropped but that does not create a very compelling argument to keep Smeltzer. I wish him the best on his next stop.
  5. So very interesting that numbers 24, 28, and 30 are the most successful from that class. It made me go back and look at who is in those spots now. MLB has those as Cole Sands, Steve Cruz, and Jake Rucker. It feels almost impossible that those three could possibly be our most successful grads from 2022 in 2027. I guess you never know…
  6. I have to wonder how the rest of the roster that played with Pagan this year would feel about him coming back? Twins players watched him play a huge role in tanking their season. What is the message to them if he is still wearing a Twins uniform next year? To me his “potential” is not worth the ill will that would occur for players and fans. Their seems to an institutional fear for the Twins and some fans that they may let a player go who thrives elsewhere (aka Ortiz Syndrome). Yet every team has this happen to some extent. Their will be plenty of other over 30 relievers available without the dark team history of Pagan. Move on already.
  7. To answer the question posed I would say the obvious answer is WIN. Call this point #1. IMO most fans would get excited and support a winning team. A small percentage would believe every win was luck and every loss was Rocco’s fault. To be clear I am not advocating for Rocco or the FO. The early pulling of starting pitchers suggests a lack of situational awareness and mathematics. If your rested starter is possibly at risk of getting hit hard the third time thru the order vs replacing them with a overused, exhausted reliever perhaps you take the smaller risk of leaving the starter out there another inning. The mathematics reference is regarding starters averaging 4.8 innings. Implicit with this is your bullpen pitches an average of 4.2 innings every game for 162 games. This is without consideration for the 8-10 extra inning games that will likely occur. It would be interesting to see the modeled probabilities of having a championship team with a bullpen that throws 700 or more innings in the regular season. I use the term “modeled” because the extra inning rule change has reduced the length of extra inning games so their is probably not enough historical data to reasonably answer that question. I am not suggesting that heavy bullpen usage can’t work but I am suggesting it is not probable. I realize their are many more possible points of contention than pitching usage but i am using that example as it is probably the most contentious one. I dislike the argument that we should use an approach because “all the other teams are doing it”. Our management team is supposedly compromised of innovators. So back to point #1. Fans are most likely to support your management philosophy and style if it actually works.
  8. I don’t need to participate in all the dreary complaining as I will have all winter to do that. I guess some want to start early so as to be first in line with their “I told you so’s”. I still cling to the apparently antiquated notion that baseball is fun. Man, what I would give to be able to go back in time and see another Killebrew at bat. Right now I am going to enjoy the ride and personally hope that the Twins win the division, and a round of playoff games. It would be even better if they went all the way to the WS and stuffed it down the throats of the depressing complainers. So yeah, that is what I hope to see. This life goes by so fast. Morse is right..”enjoy the ride”. I will be at the game in Anaheim tomorrow and will be loudly encouraging my favorite team.
  9. 2 months in a row of below .500 performance does not suggest we should be emptying out the farm. This team is more than a good starting pitcher away from being a serious contender. Getting the “participation” trophy of possibly winning the AL Central is a lousy reason to trade good prospects. I was also at the games on Friday and Saturday. Joe Ryan was actually not as bad as the outcome suggests. He did throw 5 meatballs in the center of the strike zone that were not missed by 5 different hitters, however he otherwise had good poise and good stuff. Wearing Twins gear and enthusiastically cheering Buxton’s jack certainly gave the local partisans plenty of material to work with later. Saturday on the other hand was good fun and the Twins players were also having a good time. Sat behind their dugout both nights and their demeanor was radically different between the two nights. Some good pitching by Sonny Gray and a helpfully inert umpire fired the boyz up. I am usually an eternal optimist with the Twins but reality was on display these past 2 months and it is clear that the Twins are 3-4 quality pitchers short of meaningful contention.
  10. It seems like given the SS uncertainty next year that they would use every opportunity to take a longer look at Palacios. Happy for Soto though. Definitely a feel good story.
  11. Tangential thought in Miranda. Either Kiriloff or Larnach will be taking that roster spot very soon. Lewis will likely be back in the next couple of weeks
  12. Although not mentioned getting Larnach back would be a nice boost. IMO, when Correa is activated Lewis needs to head to AAA to practice being a SS. He is most likely our SS FT next year.
  13. It will be interesting to see who the PTBNL is. The structure of this trade suggests to me that it won’t be a throw-in. The $6.6MM added had to be about something more the average low A ball lottery ticket.
  14. Paddack’s first 3 seasons look like a lot of high end prospects numbers while they are learning. The raw material here is very good, is 26 years old, and comes with 3 years of control. It would not be surprising to see him at or near the front of our rotation in a year or two. Pagan also has a very good arm and good control with 2 years of team control left. My opinion is that these are both pitchers who need a new environment and more thoughtful coaching. There is a lot to like here. Rogers is the oldest player here and the one at the most risk of injury and is in the decline phase of his career.. He had one year of control left. If he has the good year that so many fans seem to expect he will be $9mm+ Next year. If he doesn’t he could be looking for a job late next winter. Brent Rooker was most likely someone we would have been releasing within 30 days for his roster spot. I rate this a solid win for the Twins
  15. I would prefer the Twins try to a make a run at John Means. I think we would line up better with the Orioles on a volume prospect trade and the Orioles have at times indicated Means could be available. He will be starting to become expensive before there window is open so I think it is inevitable that they are going to trade him. They are drastically moving and raising the outfield walls in Baltimore so perhaps they want to shine his numbers a bit before moving him.
  16. Pretty shocking how low of value they placed on Garver. Apparently the FO didn’t believe that Garver could stay healthy. IFK is a nice addition at short but did we really have to give up one of the better hitting catchers in baseball to get him?
  17. Even Jim Pohlad seems to be backing away from this one. It is time for some good old fashioned owner meddling.
  18. I like the idea of Kluber and Wood although this market suggests that those numbers may be low.
  19. I like the idea of high quality pitchers on short term contracts. We have one of the deeper starting pitching pipelines in baseball which seems to be getting forgotten. I feel the disappointment of the Berrios signing but that trade may come to look brilliant. The Thor signing bothered me more as I feel that the quality starting pitchers available on 1 year contracts is a short list. I would be happy to hear that we traded for any of the 3 SPs presumed to be available from Oakland, as well as the Reds or Marlins SPs. Every offseason there are a number of fans that think the Twins should be in on the very top of the starting pitching market and are angry when we are not. The list of teams that get to shop in that aisle of $30mm+/yr pitchers is about 8 teams. Moreover I can not recall a top SP FA ever clamoring to pitch in MN. Being perpetually upset at the FO for not taking steps that are not even on the table is ludicrous. The Cheap Pohlad saw is equally lame. They may be perceived as mega rich but they are not obligated to spend for the entertainment of others. All the owners could spend more but most scale their payroll to the size of the market revenues. We don't have it any worse than the majority of teams in MLB. I think it sucks that their is no financial parity in MLB. To me that detracts from the game of baseball. just my .02$
  20. The Twins have an awesome AAA setup. St Paul should be really proud of that beautiful park. On the night Miranda debuted their was a double rainbow. Sign, yes?
  21. On a more hopeful note I was able to watch Miranda’s AAA debut and a few days later Winder’s in person. Winder was hitting 96 regularly according to the ballpark radar and seemed to have great command of all of his pitches. Miranda’s 3 homers were all smoked. I would love to know the exit velo on two of them. Scarcely time to stand up before they left the yard. Both nights were pretty cool. These were the first Saints games I have seen in years as I live in San Diego.
  22. Maybe Shoemaker can get a locker next to Winder. What an opportunity to share some of that veteran “savvy”. ?
  23. The front office did well in their trades for Odorizzi and Maeda. They came up with a solid solution to acquiring the services of Pineda. They came close on Lance Lynn. Many forget that he was coming off TJ surgery. It is pretty common for a SP to need 5-10 starts to start getting their control and velo back. I do think there are ways forward to build out the pitching staff. A lot of references on here to Tampa Bay. One of their strengths has been to find unheralded players on the rise and trade for them or sign them. Oakland is another team that seems adept at finding such players. I hope this off-season the FO can play to their similar strengths. It would appear that their strength is not finding the aging SP with something left in the tank.
  24. Tyler Wells is pitching well for a lousy Baltimore team. I had mentioned 3 players in an earlier thread that seem like the type this FO won’t audition. Palacios, Cano, and Moran. All 3 should be at AAA right now. IMO They are all better than their counterparts at STP. There are other names such Miranda & De la Trinidad that fit the criteria of being better than much of the STP roster. The Twins have a reputation for promoting their players slowly which is often described as “conservative”. I can think of other descriptions for that. Let the kids play! Give your top minor league club with which you share a market the best available minor league talent. Who knows, maybe it would be synergistic and help local fans overcome the malaise induced by the mlb squad. Might even provide a better setup for the FO to evaluate possible LT pieces…(smacks forehead)… I will sit back and wait for the chorus of “that’s not how it is done” that will come from some quarters
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