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  1. KirbyDome89
    Disciplined, at least in this context, carries a positive connotation, the implication being we should buy into the process. That process, though not solely responsible, has largely contributed to a couple pretty poor seasons recently. **Credit where it's due for landing Correa last year, but his situation was unique, and obviously they can't rely on something similar happening, maybe ever again.** I couldn't agree more with Squirrel, I can't get over this FO consciously submitting an offer that anybody with a pulse knew wasn't going to win, or if we're being honest, even come close.
  2. KirbyDome89
    They were $65M short.... Yes, they should be dogged for talking up Correa as a priority and then making an offer that had absolutely no chance of being accepted. Counter offer; I'll give you 20% under market value, a la our beloved Twins. How could you say no? Have your people contact mine.
  3. KirbyDome89
    So now it's an issue of cost and not availability? No, the Twins weren't "used." They didn't want to pay market rates. It baffles me, that with their underwhelming offer made public (by the Twins themselves no less!) fans would still rather believe in some Boras/Correa conspiracy theory.
  4. KirbyDome89
    Those players become the anchors, or you have the money to then go out and sign that type of player.
  5. KirbyDome89
    Would you rather the team give up established players and/or prospects instead of just $$ to acquire talent? We can play the same game, and point out the warts on whoever ends up filling in at these positions, the point was that there was plenty of money to spend + opportunity to spend it, yet the Twins watched better options come off the board while sitting on a non serious offer to Correa.
  6. KirbyDome89
    Contreras would've been a massive upgrade at C. Haniger would've solved the RH OFer hole or Abreu at DH if the Twins just wanted a RH bat. Throw the Vasquez money at David Robertson and maybe take a flier on Tommy Kahnle since this FO doesn't fear injury risk with pitchers. All of that was absolutely possible with the money MN has to spend. Of course the Twins did, or hopefully will find other players to fill those holes, but the guys that "slipped away," were the more desirable players. That's the criticism.
  7. KirbyDome89
    They could've and should've matched the money. The number of years doesn't really matter.
  8. KirbyDome89
    We're only a couple months removed from DSP scolding fans and talking about scaling back payroll. I'm skeptical ownership is going to throw money around for fan service. The conspiracy theory starts to unravel when you consider that Bogaerts, and by extension Boras himself, are being ****ed over no? If he honestly felt the Twins would've beat SD's offer, why not give Bogaerts to MN and use SD the way he has allegedly used MN? The Twins weren't remotely close on Correa, which Boras certainly knew, and the Padres have been far more aggressive + they're a division rival. Wouldn't it be to Boras' advantage if they were the team he was leveraging against SF? My guess is Boras knew where MN was with Correa and Bogaerts, and in both instances they weren't close.
  9. KirbyDome89
    You're giving Boras way too much credit. There's no way the Twins thought they were actually getting Correa on a sweetheart deal. The leaked details of their offer and the quick move to acquire Farmer both suggest MN wasn't going to play in the deep end.
  10. KirbyDome89
    Yeah, at some point he's no longer a stopgap and just your starting SS, especially when the gap he's bridging is to two unknowns.
  11. KirbyDome89
    My frustration started to grow in 2021. Obviously watching a terrible team isn't fun, but more than losing games, it was the head scratching decisions - refusing to move off Shoemaker and Happ (honestly committing 2 separate rotation spots to them in the first place) until it was beyond obvious they were toast. Ditto for Colome. The pen itself was a turnstile of washed vets and never has beens. Continuing to play Simmons at SS late in the year and not giving Gordon regular ABs until they had no choice. The Randy Dobnak experiment blew up in their face. It was everything this team was supposed to have moved on from. When 2022 became known as the "developmental year," in the offseason I was out. The "pipeline," became a meme, and it was deja vu on the pitching side.
  12. KirbyDome89
    The Twins would've been division champs after 60 games last year, which highlights just how much stock we should put into the 2020 season.
  13. KirbyDome89
    Time is a flat circle....at least for fans of this team.
  14. KirbyDome89
    1) I'd be excited to watch him alongside some of the younger players. In 10 years the hope would be that a $27M AAV would look and feel like the deal the Twins have with Buxton. 2) No. MN state tax would have him at roughly 10% I believe, and when you factor in the higher MN AAV (our big bragging point) the gap between the deals doesn't really budge; he makes $50M more in SF rather than $65. 3) Giving Jose Miranda a Wander Franco deal is a more prudent financial investment? Yeesh. 4) So make the team worse in the short term (i.e. rebuild) while they've got young positional talent or vets on team friendly deals everywhere? Hard pass. 5) Trade for the immature star on a 14 year $340M deal because Correa at 13/$350 is so unpalatable?
  15. KirbyDome89
    If they were to spend all the hypothetical Correa money(which I'm highly skeptical will happen,) the Twins might come out ahead in terms of total WAR or something in that vein, but as far as impact is concerned, I don't think they'll come close.
  16. KirbyDome89
    For me it's disappointment, not angst. I didn't expect Correa back. Is there a better use of all the "financial flexibility," constantly endorsed here? It's pretty clear this FO won't commit years or $$ to pitching (happy to eat those words if Rodon signs,) and the position player group is nearly all pre arb or on team friendly deals. Surplus savings aren't applied to later seasons; missing out on Correa isn't a cause for celebration.
  17. KirbyDome89
    The fact that the higher AAV is being touted when they came up well short is what's cringey, not the fact that he's no longer a member of the Twins.
  18. KirbyDome89
    Yep, you nailed it with the "plausible deniability," comment the other day. Also, it's cringey that we're talking about the Twins offering a higher AAV when they're short three years and $65M.
  19. KirbyDome89
    I read that tweet as "the Twins will pursue one or the other," not that they're destined to sign one of the two, which is basically a giant nothing burger. Nobody needs to be informed that MN isn't signing both players.
  20. KirbyDome89
    Neither was Buxton, but that's beside the point right? Just like Judge, those two had a preferred destination and turned down more lucrative opportunities. We're irked about a hypothetical because it's the Yankees, but whatever.
  21. KirbyDome89
    Yeah I think at least 4-5 pitching acquisitions over the last few years would all slot above the aforementioned position players if we're taking about true risk.
  22. KirbyDome89
    Was it complete crap when Mauer, or more recently Buxton, eschewed FA and left money on the table to stay in MN? If Rodon signs with NY for less, and the Twins are one of the teams that bested their offer, then sure, throw a pity party and run with the "NY discount," theory, but until that happens there isn't anything unusual with how FA has played out for them.
  23. KirbyDome89
    Can we really call it a discount if the highest bid wins? I'll feel bad for the Twins if/when they come with receipts and show they submitted the best offer and were told "no thanks."
  24. KirbyDome89
    I guess we'll see, but it'd be shocking if the baseball world was totally wrong and Correa signed for sub $300M with the Twins being $25M+ above any other interested party.
  25. KirbyDome89
    What's more likely, the Twins are bidding against themselves and Boras (and the baseball world) has been playing them this entire time, or MN isn't alone in committing the type of money reported, i.e. they aren't setting the market?
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