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  1. KirbyDome89
    Lopez June - October last year essentially was Dylan Bundy.
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    Because the Mets have zero fear of spending and they were engaged with Correa over a previous offer. Why would they not be the benchmark? I'm not arguing that it isn't. I'm curious why a team that has no limitations wouldn't front load the deal and give themselves and out down the line if Correa was agreeable to such terms.
  3. KirbyDome89
    Sure, but it seems Correa was willing to do a shorter term deal, so why not best MN's AAV? That's what I don't get. You've protected yourself from the long term concerns and we know the luxury tax is an afterthought for NY.
  4. KirbyDome89
    I really want to know what went down with the Mets where they weren't willing to beat this offer from MN. Medical concern? Pride? Spite?
  5. KirbyDome89
    The Twins might've been serious about signing him for $285M, but before he failed 2 physicals we all knew that number wasn't going to get it done. Unless we want to believe this team can tell the future, I don't think that offer was seriously entertained at any point. I'm glad Correa is back. I think the FO stumbled into this opportunity, but they took advantage, so credit where it's due.
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    So the Twins need to trade from a bottom tier farm for more short term pitching? Hard pass. Same goes for Machado. Good luck coming up with the kind of package SD would command for Tatis, it's not even worth thinking about. SD is looking to compete, and they control Kim essentially through his prime. At worst, he's a solid utility option and Bogaerts insurance at SS. Idk why they'd be in a hurry to move him this year, i.e. it's likely they'll need to be blown away to let him go. Is that the type of asking price MN should meet for a solid but unspectacular SS?
  7. KirbyDome89
    Holy cope, are you actually arguing that the Twins knew SF and NY would balk after verbally agreeing to deals? The Twins were $65M, then $30M short, and never once got to $300M, a number nearly everybody thought was the starting point for acquiring Correa, but they didn't misread the market? The FO had, and by some accounts still does have, full control; they just have to spend the actual $$ it'll take to secure Correa's services.
  8. KirbyDome89
    Correa's earning potential at 38 won't be remotely close to what it currently is at 28, and that gap between what type of AAV he can command now vs. down the road is much more important than the value of the dollar 10 years vs. 12-13 years from now. It's not even close to a wash.
  9. KirbyDome89
    Agreed, which to me disqualifies their initial offer as "good," when they came up well short 2x. If Correa does end up signing for something close to what MN offered, it'll be due to circumstances well outside of the Twins' control and understanding.
  10. KirbyDome89
    It did prior to the physical. Again, you either have to believe the Twins could forecast the future, and knew multiple deals would fall through, or they missed twice and might back their way into a signing. One scenario is much more likely than the other.
  11. KirbyDome89
    The years don't matter. Why people refuse to acknowledge this Idk. A 40 year old Correa isn't signing a deal for anywhere close to $30M AAV, even though the value of that amount won't be equivalent to today. It's not about optics, it's about maximizing the money while he's at the peak of his earning potential.
  12. KirbyDome89
    It absolutely does if you're going to argue that their initial offer was a good one. If they didn't know SF would back out, then no, coming up $65M short wasn't a proper valuation.
  13. KirbyDome89
    You honestly believe the Twins knew SF and then NY would outbid them and then renege? I mean c'mon....
  14. KirbyDome89
    It was $30M less. Pretty big difference no?
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    Kennys Vargas. I was convinced he just needed regular ABs and he was getting a raw deal on some really bad teams. I still don't think I was 100% wrong about the latter. Recently, and I'm surprised I haven't seen this one yet, I liked the Andrelton Simmons signing. I didn't expect much from him offensively but he was an absolute disaster in every way.
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    Ryan doesn't belong on this list. I agree that people don't seem to realize how bad he was against playoff caliber teams, or that nearly 1/3 of his starts came against Detroit and KC, but I think we're forgetting the questions about his ability to stick as a SP due to his lack of a secondary pitch and his low velocity. Barring some massive regression there shouldn't be any doubt about him as a back end guy at this point. That's a W, and obviously one of the better scenarios. There's a weird push to force him into the middle or upper echelon of the rotation. Idk if that stems from his Opening Day start or just general fan hype, but I don't think that was ever a realistic goal. Maybe he exceeds expectations, and that'd be great, but right now he's basically what we could've hoped for when the trade was made so I don't think there's anything for him to prove. Conversely, we've got guy like Emilio Pagan who needs to prove that gambling on his "stuff," isn't another massive waste of a roster spot. Tyler Mahle, Kenta Maeda, and Josh Winder need to prove they can stay healthy and be productive.
  18. KirbyDome89
    The entire point of the article is that relying on "fliers everyone knew were lotto tix or make good deals," year over year hasn't worked out. Do you have an actual counterpoint, or are you just upset that people are talking about the issue?
  19. KirbyDome89
    I was wondering how far down I'd have to scroll to see "former...." and "leadership," mentioned. As it turns out, not very far.
  20. KirbyDome89
    If the Twins view Gallo as a better upside version of Gordon from the left side of the plate (a very real possibility) with better defensive prowess in CF, i.e. Buxton insurance, they definitely could make a case for keeping Kepler. I'm not saying it's a move I love, but I don't think Kepler is a lock to be traded. I also doubt the Twins want to lock Larnach (or anybody really) into the DH role for nearly half the season.
  21. KirbyDome89
    Zero chance Gordon is an every day OFer. What are you doing with Larnach, or even Kepler, if you're going to pencil Gordon in out there? All those meaningless games to end 2021 were a chance for Gordon to play SS. Right or wrong, the Twins opted not to go that route, it's clear they don't view him as capable of handling the position. If you have to platoon a guy at SS, he isn't a SS.
  22. KirbyDome89
    I get that, the plate is a stand in for whatever health concerns are supposedly causing the delay. Personally, I'm not sure why he would refuse. If a medical professional recommended a look, if for no reason other than to remove any doubt/fear, I'd agree without hesitation but yes, he has the option to decline. If you're the Twins, and you're serious about committing to him long term, why would you not to erase any doubt as well? Why put him back on the field and risk something happening during a handful of meaningless games? Why not have as much info as possible at your disposal? I don't know why a team that's concerned enough to make Correa a healthy scratch wouldn't be hyper cautious about a surgically repaired ankle. "Every team has multiple pitchers get hurt," is such an oversimplification. Every team takes risks relative to their normal operating procedures, or every team gambles on Paddack and Mahle in a 4 month window? Those are two different things.
  23. KirbyDome89
    I have no clue how insurance is actually involved. Sure, but being skeptical isn't the same thing as being unrealistic or interpreting the situation in only the worst possible light. I agree SF and NY had more at risk, but I don't think Correa underwent a radically different physical with any of the 3 teams in this discussion.
  24. KirbyDome89
    Are you suggesting Mahle's shoulder issues in MN weren't related to one that shelved him in Cincinnati a few weeks before he was acquired? I think that's a more difficult sell. You really can't see the difference between trading for somebody with an injury history who is currently healthy/pitching vs. somebody who has a history, was shelved for the remainder of the previous season with that same type of injury, and hasn't thrown since? Don't let me stop you from arguing to the extreme though.
  25. KirbyDome89
    Is the plate not what this long term angst is about? Were they aware prior to the season that long term his ankle looks to be an issue? He has a surgically repaired ankle, had to leave the game after a slide, publicly comment about the fact he were scared when they felt the ankle "vibrate," and if you're MN he's supposedly FA target No. 1. None of that merits anything other than a quick thumbs up? This is a team that had him on scheduled rest days, you really don't think they had any interest in a closer look? Ok. Why would they offer 10/285 if they knew what SF or NY recently found? He didn't sign with the Mets last year, and he wasn't a Met when he slid and irritated the plate in his ankle. I doubt we need to go down the financial road either. It's apples and oranges. Trading for two pitchers recently injured pitchers within 4 months and getting 9 combined starts is not out of the norm because other players get hurt too. I'll just disagree.
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