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Maybe it's not the best comp. Just what I thought of when I thought of .265/.320/.415 hitter with a strong arm. Gordon was a much better OBP guy than I remember, nor I have no idea where Verdugo rates defensively- A significant portion of Grodon's value is derived from his defense.

I'm not a fan of Verdugo. I've stated my case pretty well in the previous posts.

I think so too. I'd trade Dozier for De Leon and Alvarez in a heartbeat. I'd imagine the Dodgers would push back quite a bit on that. Which is why I think DeLeon and Stewart would be the two main pieces. I'd want at least a low-minor lottery ticket in A ball included in that deal.

He doesn't have the power, or project to have the power to fit a corner outfield spot. Nor has he shown the speed or OBP to make up for it. I don't think he has the skill set to push Eddie Rosario and I think he has less upside than Kepler. I just can't see us being that interested in him. I think upside of Verdugo is Alex Gordon. Decent player with a great arm. But nothing special.

Scouting reports are wrong all the time. I've seen reports saying he has a potential plus fastball, plus change, above avg command. Sounds like a #3 to me. If cost is never taken into account you end up having a bunch mediocre players on a mediocre team taking up all the payroll space. Sorta like the Twins circa 2012. Payroll is a limited commodity, like roster space.

Minor league stats indicate that they are totally different pitchers. Stewart had significantly better K/BB rates and FIP at similar levels and ages. But let's say you are right, he's a #5. I'd rather pay a MLB minimum to a number 5 than 8+ mil to Santiago.

Or at the very least dump Santiago. Honestly, I'd have De Leon, Berrios, Stewart, May, Gibson in my rotation. Duffey and Hughes in the pen to start. Mejia in the minors. In that scenario I'd dump Santiago for a bag of balls and trade E-San for some quality prospects in the lower minors that wouldn't require a 40 man spot.

Although I wouldn't be disappointed in De Leon+ Stewart+ ?

I'm just not crazy about Verdugo. His minor league track record doesn't indicate much. He doesn't strike out much and is young for his leagues, but doesn't hit for power, have any significant speed, or draw a high amount of walks. a wRC+ of 113 in AA doesn't do much for me.

I hope the new regime is able to see what we have in players before they run out of options.

Faedo- Hard to knock a 6.33 K/BB ratio in the best conference in college baseball. I'd actually go with Bukauskas over Wright. I'm not afraid of short pitchers and I'm not big on Wright right now. Vandy pitchers seem to break frequently.

Which is why I said as of right now, college arm is what I'd prefer at 1-1. Then save up some cash for some harder to sign high schoolers for the comp round and 2-1.

Not every player is physically mature at 18 out of high school. Plenty of major league ace pitchers are college guys. Verlander, Kluber, Scherzer, Price. All college arms. High school pitchers are the absolute riskiest draft commodity. There's a reason no high school RHP has every been selected 1-1. The stakes are so high with the first pick- it absolutely cannot be blown.

I'm definitely not a fan of Kendall. To put it bluntly, his college numbers are downright mediocre. He averaged a 2.65 K/BB ratio over his first two years and has an OPS of .619 in the Cape over 102 ABs.

I'm not a fan of going HS pitcher #1, nor are there any college hitters worth the #1 pick at this point. I'm all aboard the Faedo train at this point. Toot Toot!

I think we could get a top college pitcher at #1, save a little slot space to find some upside with our other top 50 picks.

I'm so glad Terry Ryan is no longer in charge.

Not in the post I was quoting you didn't. What does labrum surgery have to do with not being able to dig deeper than superficial batting averages? Maybe bro never made it back into the lexicon of Dodger fans in Iowa 6-8 years ago like it did with everybody else under the age 30.

I think Seth's analysis shows that the Twins were average when compared to other teams over the the entirety of 10 year sample. HOWEVER, most of their successful players were drafted in the '03-'05 years. The '06-'11 drafts were just horrendous as a whole and the argument could be made that is a major, if not the leading factor, in much of the Twins' recent run of futility. Let's look at the notable players drafted AND signed by the Twins from '06-'11 (5+ bWAR or solid chance to reach 5 bWAR in career): Danny Valencia ('06) 5.0 bWAR- only 0.8 was with the Twins.Ben Revere ('07) 6.1 bWAR- had his best season as a Twin- 2.6 WARKyle Gibson ('09) 5.0 bWARBrian Dozier ('09) 18.4 bWAR- only impact player over this periodEddie Rosario ('10) 3.3 bWAR- pretty good chance he reaches 5 WAR for his careerIn addition to this lack of success, it is entirely possible not a single player drafted and signed by the Twins will reach the majors from 2011. It's likely Jason Wheeler will reach the majors, but it's incredible that there is even the possibility of having not one cup of coffee from that draft at this point. Especially when considering that 60% of the first and supp. rounds, 50% of round 2, and 35% of round 3 from 2011 have already appeared in at least one major league game. That's 51.2% (62/121). The Twins had 5 picks in the first 3 rounds of that draft. A monkey could literally done a better job by pulling names from Baseball America's top 250 draft eligible players out of hat.

A .250 hitter? Bro, it's 2016. You did not just reference his batting average.

I have no interest in any of the 1B/DH guys. But I like Davis as a 4th outfielder and maybe a buy-low pitching candidate like Ross.

I think this sets up nicely for the Dozier deal to get done this week. All off the Dodgers' attention will now be on improving.

Great! I can bring this back:

So... I took yesterday off from this thread and everybody goes crazy! Anyway, it looks like Dave's post on reddit has been removed. So what's the update? I see that the Dodgers are close to resigning Turner. Does that improve or hurt the chances of this trade happening?

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