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  1. I agree that is reasonable, and that's been my position all along. What I don't think is reasonable is suggesting people who have this stance don't want to improve the team through any measure, want to punt on 2019, never want to trade for or sign elite players, and other hyperbole you have thrown back as your retort.
  2. The front office has done 2 drafts, it's definitely too early to judge either, which is why it's odd you called them nowhere near the top 5. Early returns show the 2017 class a good chance to be pretty damn good.
  3. There's a tad bit of a difference on how much affect on an individual game a pitcher has vs a catcher, no? I have not seen one person say this, you have been putting words in peoples mouth during this entire debate.
  4. I was not commenting on what they may do over the next 20 games, I was only commenting that "playing .500 ball" is not "progress" in relation to chasing down Cle.
  5. They need to play at roughly a 102 win pace for the rest of the season to win 86 games which will catch Cleveland if Cle plays only .500 ball for the rest of the season. .500 ball over 20 games is semi meaningless
  6. 22 catchers had a fangraphs WAR between 1.0 and 2.7 last year. The idea that this is the position this team HAS to fix - up to and including trading a talent like Lewis and/or Kiriloff makes zero sense to me. None
  7. What am I missing here? Did you not write they have very few holes but catcher? Have you not said they are wasting Buxton + Sano if they don't fix catcher? Did the other poster you defended in your last comment to me not call 2019 a waste without getting Realmuto? You said the option is that, or sign Ramos or Grandal? How about teams like the A's, Diamondbacks, Nats, Red Sox, Indians, Mariners, and Brewers all competing this season with catchers who have wRC+ below 80? How have they done it?
  8. Have you seen the bullpen? The idea that the Twins are "wasting 2019" by not getting either Realmuto, Ramos, or Grandal is beyond absurd. Since when did catcher become the position you have to have a top guy or you can't win?
  9. To get this all straight; Last season he Twins with a much worse pitching staff, a still green Buxton/Sano, who had up and down 2017 seasons, made the Wild Card with Jason Castro at Catcher. But IF Buxton and Sano make big strides in 2019 (with a much improved staff), the Twins will have "wasted 2019" because they didn't trade their top prospects for Realmuto. As for your other argument on getting a comp pick for Realmuto. I pray the Twins front office has more discipline than to think trading Royce Lewis away on a flier season will be ok either way because they can always get a comp pick back
  10. I agree with everything you have written, which makes me wonder why we are even having a conversation about trading for Realmuto when the team is 7 games under .500 and Buxton and Sano are in the minor leagues. I frankly at this point don't even know if there is enough time left in the season to get enough of a clue on Buxton/Sano and their likely 2019 production to make it worth even discussing a trade for Realmuto this winter...
  11. Yes typo on my end. Vargas was 22 in A, Midwest league, not A+ Florida State League. Kiriloff is now 20, in A+ If you don't have issues with his bat, why the asinine comparison to Vargas and his season in A ball?
  12. Vargas was in A+ from late July - end of season 2012, he was 22 nearly his whole time there. Kiriloff started at A+ as a 20.5 year old. That's a year and a half age difference, not as insignificant as you are trying to make it seem. Kiriloff also missed the entire 2017 season, making the numbers is he putting up all the more impressive.
  13. Heres the thing you're missing that myself and other posters have written. There is no reason to "pick a route" today. This season is very likely over. Sano/Buxton are in the minor leagues. You don't know what free agents you can potentially attract, who will be available in the trade market. Your asking to make a decision today on something that is incomplete, and I'll have a lot clearer view of in 4 months. If you want to know what I would do in July, it's trade Dozier, and others with value. Hope that Buxton / Sano show signs of life by end of season. And then find ways to maybe open a window next season
  14. We've gone round and round on this for weeks. Noone has said they should not add talent. Realmuto does NOT have to be THE talent added. You keep insinuating its trade for Realmuto or give up and thats just simply not the case.
  15. Well the Buxton / Sano "window" isn't really even open yet, since they are both in the minor leagues. But getting rid of Kiriloff or Lewis certainly doesn't bring you close to the Yankees in the next 2 years, and then Realmuto is a FA
  16. I would not expect Gordon to be a 3-4 WAR player next season by any means, but I think he can be productive enough, the resources can be used elsewhere, and I don't have confidence Dozier is going to age well. The "killing 2018" comment is in reference to the fact their best hitter, who was entering a contract year, and needed to be heavily relied on, put up a .689 ops and 88 wRC+ in the 1st 3 months. The offense tanked, and Dozier was a big reason for that.
  17. I'm not, cuz I don't really have a strong opinion either way... I agree Dozier has been better the last 4.5 years, I don't think there's really any need to even debate that. I think the fact Escobar can play any IF position and is younger works in his favor going forward. Who knows how to predict Dozier going forward? He helped kill the 2018 season with his 1st 3 months, but if he stayed hot now I wouldn't be shocked. If I'm only signing one for next year, it's probably Escobar and I'm trading Dozier in 2 weeks. But that has a lot to do with wanting Gordon at 2B, and thinking Sano isn't going to play 3B next year.
  18. I'm not weighing in on this one way or the other, but to talk about value today and going forward, you shouldn't use WAR from 4 years ago, especially because Dozier is the age where he's likely already passed his peak.
  19. Definitely agree with that. I'm just not sure I see a scenario where the Marlins trade Realmuto to the Twins and it doesn't include a hitter named Lewis or Kiriloff, and a pitcher named Graterol or Romero. And I think if they somehow were interested in a Kiriloff/Graterol package, you are probably adding in a pretty good 3rd piece as well.
  20. Of course, my point is why would the Marlins want him as a centerpiece of this deal? He's a 24 year old who hasn't pitched in the majors yet and has a ceiling of a mid-rotation starter. Realmuto isn't getting traded for that.
  21. 4 seam fastballs get crushed because they miss middle up, which is what Gray's biggest problem has been (command), not because they consistently stay low in the zone
  22. Like the Twins sending Gibson down in a playoff race last year?
  23. - If the playoff game was tomorrow, I probably wouldn't start Gray over Gibson. If it was in 3 months I would certainly think long and hard about it. Gray has been a better pitcher throughout their careers, especially when you adjust for park. It's not even that close. - Fans don't matter. What we do, say and think has no bearing on how teams operate their roster. - Since the start of 2017. Jon Gray's GB% = 47.5%. Kyle Gibson's GB% = 49.7%. Jon Gray K%/BB% = 26.5%/6.8%. Gibson's = 19.7%/10.5%. What exactly makes Gray a bad fit for Coors yet Gibson a good one?
  24. I would look at this nearly the opposite way. The organization (which is what matters, not the fans) has a lot invested in Gray, and probably values him even higher than other organizations do. I don't understand why they would be willing to trade him for someone who comes with less team control and is not a clear upgrade
  25. Yeah, I just don't think there's anyway they look at it and come to the conclusion Gibson would be much more valuable to a playoff push than Gray. I think any playoff hopes they have likely center around Gray figuring something out soon and rejoining the rotation later this month.
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