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If Perez's role in the playoffs is to be a lefty specialist, it's pretty odd that he hasn't been used that way once this season, no? Obviously you cannot start him in one of these playoff games, is he worth putting on the roster to face one guy a night in a role he's never had? Berrios Odorizzi Dobnak Smeltzer Rogers May Duffey Littel Romo Graterol Stashak As bad as Gibson has been, I think I'd trust him to get you 2-3 innings in game 3 or 4 at Target Field over Perez

Ok. I’d still rather the Twins give themselves the best chance to win the division.

Is making it up after the season a negative? 1st of all that would only be done if the game meant something to Washington or MN. If the game did mean something to the Twins, who would want it played tonight vs Corbin with this lineup over played 2+ weeks from now with hopefully Sano, Kepler, etc and possibly in a game totally meaningless to Was

Postponing tonight's game seems like an absolute no brainer, right? Can someone explain to me why the Twins haven't done this already? Get to Cleveland 8 hours earlier. Miss out on facing Corbin with a lineup of bench players. Don't have to use a bullpen game on Saturday in Cleveland. What is the downside?

He is not signed through 2021. He is controllable through 2021

I think there were much more of the 1st group than the 2nd group. Really not many complaints about specifically trading Pressly, but a decent amount about selling in general.

Clear mistake to everyone but those paid to analyze this stuff? You are mis-remembering the reaction here as well. Some had questions about selling in general, very very few had issues with this particular trade. Hindsight https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/astros-acquire-ryan-pressly-twins-gets-plenty-of-upside/ https://www.minorleagueball.com/2018/7/28/17625254/twins-trade-ryan-pressly-to-astros-for-prospects-jorge-alcala-gilberto-celestino https://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2018/7/29/17625880/ryan-pressly-astros-twins-reliever-trade-sinker-slider-spin-rate-release-point

Huh? Again, not the discussion we were having at all. Who is to say Pressly would be doing well if he stayed in MN. You said no one of Pressly's caliber was available last winter, I provided a handful that were.

Again,you didn't say anything about cost. Nothing. You said there was no one near his caliber. Here are a handful of relievers who were available who were better than/ similar to Pressly as a Twin. I'm sure there were more Ottavino, Robertson, Familia, Soria,

I can't say this anymore clearly. Again, that is not what I responding to. This is the exact comment I responded to. It mentions nowhere age, cost, years, etc. "There wasn't a reliever available in free agency last winter close to Pressly's caliber."

The post I replied to literally said there wasn't a reliever available this past off-season even in Presslys league. Again, I commented because that is nowhere near true when discussing Pressly as a TWIN, not his 2 months as an Astro.

For the 10th time. No one is absolving the Twins for lack of bullpen additions this offseason, not remotely what my point is here. The K% is great, his ERA was 3.70 as a Twin and he had a year of service time left. At some point a reliever with a 3.70 ERA isn't especially valuable. I jumped into this because someone said no one on the FA market this offseason was even close to as good as Pressly, which is just patently false based on Pressly's career as a Twin which is relevant.

Yeah, I've read that article. Some of that might be on Pressly, but the FO should be able to explain to these guys why this data is valuable, etc. Hopefully the Twins are working on this.

There are plenty of legitimate questions around Pressly I would ask of the Front Office like; Why was this potential untapped here and seemingly flourished immediately upon leaving? Why was he traded would not be one of them.

I could also use Trevor May like Dman mentioned above. Ryan Pressly last season with Twins vs Trevor May 2019 ERA: Pressly 3.40 May 3.50 Whip: Pressly 1.364 May 1.230 ERA+: Pressly 127 May 132

I'm aware the "stuff" is much different between Harper and Pressly, I'm using them as an example strictly based on results/ raw numbers that are pretty similar/ slightly favor Harper ERA: Harper 3.45 Pressly 3.40 Whip Harper 1.106 Pressly 1.364 ERA+ Harper 133 Pressly 127 Many of us saw the strikeout numbers, and thought Pressly COULD be dominant. But people are greatly mis-remembering what the actual results showed when he was here.

He had a 3.40 ERA, 1.364 WHIP, and 127 ERA+ He was basically last years Ryne Harper. Yes, he did have good stuff, but Twins fans seem to forget he was never actually that great of pitcher here

There were plenty available who were better than Pressly was as a Twin, which is what the applicable comparison would be. Since I'm guessing they wouldn't have traded him had they been able to unlock this dominate version of Pressly

Don't forget, Trout has also provided that wRC+ in 31 more games played...

Gibson's ERA since June 16th is higher than Martin Perez's.

You said he was pretty good, not mediocre. That's not a bad stretch, thats half his season.

June 19 - August 19 Gibson has a 5.23 ERA. "still a pretty good pitcher". Ok

I am as in to the underlying stats and metrics as anyone, there is tons of value in that stuff. But it's August of a pennant race and Gibson is not getting the job done, repeatedly. I don't care that his underlying performance was promising, I care that his team got him a 2 run lead and he couldn't protect it.. which has become a common occurrence from him

I mean I was throwing out a pretty simple comparison, not really trying to argue the merits of qualifying innings. I don't know how relevant comparing him to guys who have started 1 game is either. Lower it to 70 innings? 36th of 56. He hasn't been very good, feel free to pick away at the loose numbers I used to show the Twins should expect more from him