Without those two guys they were a .500 team. When both were healthy, they were great. I think Buxton and Donaldson take our defense from mediocre to very good, both infield and outfield. And when healthy, they were both mashing. Buxton healthy is a force, helmet flying off, running like crazy, hitting HRs all over the place, beating out singles and doubles. Donaldson is our 2nd best hitter when he's not hurt. That game against the Reds really screwed the team.