About half of the players you named are still here. In addition, there is now Lewis, Larnach, Martin, SWR, Ryan, Duran, Winder, Petty, Alcala, Jeffers, Winder, Ober, Donaldson, Maeda to name a few that were added by the current regime.
The organization obviously had talent. There was a solid young core, no doubt in my mind. That doesn’t change the fact that the Twins were exiting their worst season in team history. A lot of the players that drove the 2019 team to 101 wins might have been here when the current regime took over, but very few of them were actually good. Buxton was bad in 2016. Berrios was awful in 2016. The pitching cupboards were nearly bare and that doesn’t even account for the three consecutive wasted Top 6 picks from 2013-15.
I agree with your post except for this statement. They inherited literally the worst team in Twins history. Many of the Ryan-drafted core players that are good today weren’t actually good when the current regime took over.
Not trying to give them a pass for 2021 but to say that the franchise was in a good spot in November of 2016 is not accurate.
That’s a lot of holes to fill in one offseason.
I’ve said this before and I still stand by it, the # of games the Twins win in 2022 will depend on how much the pipeline produces. If it does produce, I think the Twins could have a fighting chance in 2022. But this is the year which that needs to start happening, if there is baseball this year. If it doesn’t then it’s a failure.
What a tough road it has been for Lewis with two consecutive lost seasons (one due to COVID and the other due to an ACL tear). Wish him all the best and I hope he becomes a core piece on the team one day.
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I’m not sure how you would find this. Normally I would say a baseball savant search is the way to go but my method would require watching video of all of the plays that come up in the search.
If you’re saying that I should throw the 2020 staff’s stats (which weren’t decent, they were very good) out the window entirely in favor of the eye test then I am at a loss for words.
Maybe I interpreted this the wrong way, but LVTwinsFan saying, “2020 season? That’s cute,” gave me that implication. If I was wrong to interpret it that way, then I apologize.
Yes, it’s a small sample size, I agree. 100%. It can’t be judged on the same merits as a 162 game season.
The difference with the Marlins is that 2020 was their first winning season since 2009. Ten ****ing years since they were a good team. And the year after that, they were dog**** again. For the Twins 2020 was their third winning season in four years, including a 100-win season the preceding year. Major difference there.
Should the Dodgers World Series Win not count? Of course it should count. Other teams played under the same conditions. It seems like you’re just discarding it because it’s not convenient to your point.
The 2021 Twins were definitely disappointing to many of us, for many reason. The Starting Rotation imploding, Colome blowing game after game, literally constant injuries, you name it. The question of the day is “How surprising was this to you?”
Possibly. He did show promise at the Major League level last year (he had an ERA+ of around 100), so I think he could get better in 2022. Of course I could be wrong and we shouldn’t rely on him as one of our top starters
What is there to suggest there’s a strong chance he won’t stick? I mean he’s not going to be the ace of the staff (at least I hope not) but I don’t think it’s unfair to slot him in at one of the 3-5 spots.