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  • Twins Daily 2023 Top Prospects: #5 Edouard Julien, 2B


    Jeremy Nygaard

    “Je vais être de retour!!” -- Edouard Julien in a since-deleted tweet sent on June 24, 2019. And with that - which translates to “I will be back!!” - Julien’s Twins career appeared to be over before it started as the draft-eligible sophomore announced his intentions to return to Auburn for his junior season.

    Oh, how things change in a hurry.
     

    At the time, it made perfect sense. Even Auburn couldn’t figure out exactly where to play Edouard Julien on the field. As a freshman, he started 59 games between designated hitter, first base, and second base. As a sophomore, he started 62 games at third base. There was no question about his bat, though. That belonged in the lineup.

    His final game as a Tiger saw these worlds collide. Against Mississippi State in the College World Series, Julien hit a massive two-run home run in the top of the second inning to give the Tigers a 2-0 lead. It was a 429-foot blast to right field that, at the time, was tied for the longest in the history of TD Ameritrade Park. He later singled in another run to push the lead to 3-0. In the bottom of the final frame, the Tigers gave up two run, but still had the lead.

     

    One out away. Tying run 90 feet from home. And a routine ground ball to third base. Three batters later, Mississippi State was celebrating their walk-off victory.

    No one would have blamed Julien for going back to Auburn to try to help his team back to Omaha. But money - nearly a half million dollars - talks and the Twins now have one of the best guys at getting on base in all the minor leagues.

    Age: 23 (DOB: 4/30/1999)
    2022 Stats: (AA): 508 PA, .300/.441/.490, 17 HR, 67 RBI, 19 SB, 98 BB, 125K. (AFL) 96 PA, .400/.563/.686, 5 HR, 17 RBI, 6 SB, 23 BB, 22K.
    ETA: 2023
    2022 Ranking: 19

    National Top 100 Rankings
    BA: NR | MLB: NR | ATH: NR | BP: NR

    What's To Like
    The bat. The eye. The legs. Julien's entire offensive arsenal is loaded. In an offseason that saw the Twins offload Luis Arraez, the organization has a ready-made replacement. 

    Julien has been able to get on base in almost 44% of his minor-league plate appearances. You could make a pretty good argument that no one is better suited to bat lead-off. He's stolen 53 bases over the last two seasons.

    He has slugged nearly .500, you could argue that his bat belongs right in the middle of the lineup.

    You could literally make any argument you wanted about getting Julien in the lineup because he is prolific with the bat in his hands and a lineup with him in it is better than one without.

    What's Left to Work On
    If you're talking about someone with an elite offensive package and he's only #5 on the team's prospect rankings, you've either got the best system in baseball (it's not that) or there is something significant that sticks out that needs to be talked about here.

    The Twins - like Auburn - have used Julien all over defensively. He's started double-digit games in his career at first base, second base, third base, and left field. And as you slide down the defensive totem pole as Julien has (and Arraez did), it makes the presence of elite offensive skills even more important. Because the last stop is as a designated hitter. 

    Ideally, Julien either finds a comfortable home (second base? left field?), but the most likely scenario involves him being used all over the infield and in left field. There's a lot of work to do here yet, but the reality remains that Julien is a low-ceiling defender.

    What's Next
    After a successful full-season run at Wichita followed by an outstanding fall in Arizona, Julien will almost assuredly start his season in St. Paul. From there, what happens in 2023 is going to be dependent on a handful of things. Assuming the bat doesn't regress, Julien will get ample opportunities to hone his defensive skills in the infield and, likely, in the outfield. But the performance and health of those above him will be the biggest factor. 

    Before all that, though, Julien will compete for Team Canada in the WBC. Julien figures to get plenty of plate appearances and will likely find himself playing second base. Will he use this opportunity as a springboard for his upcoming season?

    Luis Arraez got an opportunity and ran with it all the way to a batting title. Maybe that's all Julien needs too... and the defensive side will sort itself out in time.

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    Prospects 16-20
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    Prospect #9: Louie Varland, RHP
    Prospect #8: Jose Salas, INF
    Prospect #7: Connor Prielipp, LHP
    Prospect #6: Simeon Woods Richardson, RHP
    Prospect #5: Edouard Julien, 2B

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    We have many minor league players getting close to the majors with no set position. No big deal, they will eventually find them a spot that works best for the team.  For Julian, I think we eliminate shortstop, center field and catcher. Have him split time between left field, dh and first base, with that occasional second base game. Like everyone else, I think his best position is hitter.

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    Not to sound flippant or dismissive, but I'm not worried about Julien's defense, or a fixed position all that much. Now, I WANT good defense from all my ballplayers, as well as fundamentally strong. But not everyone, even on the best teams, is going to always be great both ways. Some are just defense first, or offense first players. Same with your bench.

    I picture Julien as being a very strong Arraez comp, though certainly not the same player. I doubt Julien ever becomes close to the same "hitter", but he seems to be a great comp OB% wise, but with more power, more speed, and healthier knees. Like Arraez, I see him as an OK defender at multiple spots. He seems destined for 1B and 2B would appear to be his best or most natural position at this point. And I'm OK with that. I would like to think he's athletic enough to also play some LF here and there. And if he's just not natural at 3B, and doesn't have the arm for it, I'm still OK.

    Of course, he just might be an outstanding, do-it-all DH from the offensive side of things. But you want him to be able to play some in the field without killing you, as you are going to want to rotate some through the DH spot for guys who are banged up a little...think Buxton...or need a half day off...think everyone else.

    I've seen enough of Larnach to fully believe he's going to one of the Twins starting corner OF, solid defensively, big arm, solid bat with real potential. How good he might be I don't know. While the jury remains out, as far as I'm concerned, I can easily see Martin in LF, covering CF, able to help a little at 3B/2B as needed, and being a fixture at the top of the lineup.

    Lee ends up at 2B/3B, Lewis the same, but also, possibly, in the OF picture. Miranda at 3B/1B/DH. And a hopefully healthy Kirilloff at 1B/DH as well. And that already creates a good lineup and depth possibilities, even before we talk about Julien, or whether Polanco remains with the Twins. 

    So to me, I just want Julien to be able to fill in at a couple 2 or 3 spots adequately, as needed, as well as DH. He's got the potential to hit a lot of places in the lineup and contribute. But he remains a part of the overall roster construction, and I don't know that he necessarily has to fit in at a single spot.

    I just so want to see him and Martin at the top of the order and set the rest of 2-9 behind those two.

     

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    Yeah, I'm going to want to see this terrible defense for myself at the MLB level before I vote to take his glove away. By definition, half of the league is below average defensively, yet there tends to be lots of hand wringing if a prospect isn't a + defender. It's Ok to have those guys on the field if they can hit.

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    I think he should be competing with AK and Larnach for a major league job.

    The Twins seem to have a bunch of older prospects that people are expecting huge things from, not sure I am so optimistic guys in their mid 20's figuring it out to become solid major players.

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    With SBs that Julien is able accumulate and that he's not fast, I'm assuming that he's quick & has a good read. He's played 2B practically the entire '22 season & still they wonder if he can stick there. Although I'm not against him playing more 2B at AAA, I believe his MLB position is 1B/ DH.

    I love his bat, the fact that he stays healthy and years of control. So I'd like to keep this one.

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    On 2/13/2023 at 9:29 PM, nicksaviking said:

    Yeah, I'm going to want to see this terrible defense for myself at the MLB level before I vote to take his glove away. By definition, half of the league is below average defensively, yet there tends to be lots of hand wringing if a prospect isn't a + defender. It's Ok to have those guys on the field if they can hit.

    Excellent point that half the league is below average defensively.  It adds a great perspective to the conversation.

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    On 2/13/2023 at 10:25 AM, Elliot said:

    When I was a young Twins fan I asked the same about Harmon Killebrew. Bad outfielder, bad 3B, OK 1B.  Why not catcher. Then it was explained to me that catcher was the most challenging defensive position on the field which also wore the individual down and diminished their offensive skills. Glad Harmon didn’t listen. 

    If Julien had a better arm, I'd try Julien out at catcher (at least part time) to get his bat in the line up. Yes catcher is a challenging position but Mauer was able to keep his offensive #s up. Our organization are very short on good catchers.

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    I'd have him focus on 2B/3B infield defense. If/when that fails, he can learn 1B or LF in the majors.

    I couldn't worry less about logjams in front of him. Players will slump, injuries will happen, etc, and rosters are constantly in flux. The goal is to have as many good players as possible.

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    48 minutes ago, Shaitan said:

    I'd have him focus on 2B/3B infield defense. If/when that fails, he can learn 1B or LF in the majors.

    I couldn't worry less about logjams in front of him. Players will slump, injuries will happen, etc, and rosters are constantly in flux. The goal is to have as many good players as possible.

    I was told Lewis got hurt because he was played out of position....which is bunk, but still....no way Julien is ever the 3B for this team, not with the players in front of him.

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    On 2/13/2023 at 6:35 AM, silverslugger said:

    RJA beat me to it.  Your doing a guy like this a disservice to play him 40 games at 2nd, 40 at short, 40 at 3rd, and 40 in LF.  Give him ONE position and let him hone his skills.

    Isn’t that what they did last year? They played him exclusively at 2B. 

    In his first year they did move him around and probably eliminated LF and 3B. He was primarily a DH his first year at Auburn getting looks at a few different spots. They had him exclusively at 3B his second year.

    I think the Twins and Auburn tried to do what you suggested. Once they had a look at him they gave him one position. He still needs to come through and show some progress honing those skills given that chance.

    If the Twins want him on the field they need to give him a full year of AAA at 2B because he isn’t close to ready and not near Arraez level at the position.

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