This is It For Miguel Sano: What Now?

The Sano to Killebrew comparison jumps off the page. From Harmon to Hrbek we have had some exceptional 1B players.  We hoped that Miguel would follow up and be the next great but is very disappointing for everyone and I would think for him as well

Feel bad for him but his time in Minnesota is definitely over. He has no place to play and his offense has disappeared. Yeah, he might get a HR once in awhile, but its not worth it.

My worry is that Buxton could be becoming Sano-lite. Buck has demonstrated power this year, but with his chronic injuries, his once awesome tools are diminished. His 'k' rate is alarming. Many of his critical AB's have been pretty ugly. He doesn't play CF as much. This has not been a good season for him, despite 26 HR's. He needs to be a big factor down the stretch. I wonder if it will happen.

But since this thread is about Sano...I'll just say, good-bye Miguel. Its time.

My favorite Miguel moment was in September of 2019.  He blasted a grand slam late in a game at Cleveland to crush the tribes hopes of catching us in the standings....I hope the best for him.

As I stated in the other "goodbye Sano" article, his career is a disappointment due to potential, hype, and hope. But I can't say he's a failure as he's enjoyed ML success where so few ever do. And he's enjoyed some success, earned an award or two, been on playoff teams, and earned millions of dollars for himself and his family. Failure, no, disappointment, yes.

He's a big human being and will remain one. Despite various reports over the years he was working hard to get in to great shape, I don't feel he's ever really invested himself in doing so. But beyond that, I just feel he was never willing to "mentally" develop his approach. I never expected him to completely re-invent himself. At some point, you are what you are. But his natural power is so significant that I've always felt if he just "held back" his stroke for better contact, ALL of his "good" numbers would have risen while still hitting a ton of HR, just more 400' shots and fewer 430' plus bombs. 

I could see him going overseas on a deal, though who knows how that works out. But I'm betting someone offers a small deal with incentives to play 1B and DH. And remember, everyone has the DH now. And more than likely, someone is either going to A] believe they can still "fix" him, or, B] be OK with his "streaky" hitter history and accept that as a dangerous #7 type hitter.

At first I hoped he was gonna be great.

Then I hoped he was gonna be good.

Then I hoped he was gonna be adequate.

Then I hoped he wasn't gonna be the worst hitter in MLB.

Then I lost all hope.

Wish him the best of luck but won't miss him even a little...

Another team can enjoy yearly articles that 'he is in the best shape of his life' and that he has learned to stop chasing the outside slider

He lost me when the harassment allegations hit. Such allegations are rarely proven, but in my experience usually true. That his play since then has spiraled downward has made me less conflicted about disliking him.

1 hour ago, DocBauer said:

...I could see him going overseas on a deal, though who knows how that works out. But I'm betting someone offers a small deal with incentives to play 1B and DH. And remember, everyone has the DH now. And more than likely, someone is either going to A] believe they can still "fix" him, or, B] be OK with his "streaky" hitter history and accept that as a dangerous #7 type hitter.

I could definitely see him taking a deal for Korea or Japan where Sano might earn $1-2MM per year if he doesn't receive an MLB offer. Top salaries in Korea are about $2MM and Japan about $4MM.

Sano will almost certainly have to take an MLB deal at league minimum or close to it, if he even gets an MLB contract, which I doubt he will. There's just no reason to risk an MLB contract for a player who has 1 year in the past 5 where he was well worth a roster spot.

I've long been a huge fan and sad to see him go. His truly random injuries robbed him if momentum and I wonder what might have been without Donaldson.

I hope he signs with the Marlins, they need offense and have James Rowson. Plus I think he'll thrive in warm weather 

I share everyone's feelings about Sano. Some real hope, following by a roller coaster of emotions leading to a disappointing ending. I do hope that Miami gives him a chance. Playing for Rowson in a warm weather city is his best chance of regaining whatever he has left. I feel for the guy but he has no place on the Twins. 

Would not be the least bit surprised to see him back and contributing in the post-season.  Baseball's a funny game sometimes.  Sometimes you've to expect the unexpected. 

Bummed out. Clearly some major talent, but most of the potential wasted due to injuries (some truly random, but a lot set up by his own admissions that fitness/diet wasn't a big priority in many offseasons). 

Don't know him enough to say for sure, but from the outside he looks like someone gifted with so much ability he just leaned on that rather than working to build on it. It can get you to the bigs, but talent plus work beats raw talent in the race to be elite. For sure, I think he fell in love with distance to the detriment of hitting (even with a clear example/mentor in Nelson Cruz), but that's not news.

I also always thought the Twins did a major mis-service by not sending him down during his first regression. Nobody likes that, but sometimes you need to be benched, or get a chance to reset out of the spotlight to take the final step. But that's a guess, too.

Maybe, despite the flash, he just wasn't good enough to stick, or too big to stay healthy. Definitely bummed out, though, because the potential was only touched in flashes.

Flashes of stardom, didn't live up to the potential. 

I can remember way back when we left the oughts, Buxton, Hicks and Sano were the Minor Leaguers coming whose future was to save the Twins from the doldrums; same blah, blah, blah I here about the current crop of rookies. ?

Sano is the ultimate example of "Oh, what might have been,"  I agree with others who have mentioned that he never really seemed to go "all in" on getting in shape, and adjusting his approach.  But, goodness, what natural power he has.  I really thought he was going to be something special but it never happened.  The promise of a "new and improved" Miguel every year really never came to fruition, until in the end, it became painful to even watch him at the plate.  But, life can be strange.  Maybe he will catch fire elsewhere.

When Sano was on, he could hit anything out of the ballpark.  When he was off, it was strikeout after strikeout.  I wish the guy luck at his next stop.  I know the Twins have held on this long because of a guy named David Ortiz, who they probably gave up on too early back in the day.  Maybe Sano still becomes Ortiz v2.0, but probably not at this point.

If only he could have worked to hit the other way occasionally we would have still seen homers and tons of doubles instead of a bunch of strikeouts and a few 500 foot homers.  What could have been ;-(

Good luck to him wherever he lands.

All the appearances of a great teammate and a guy who simply loves to play. I’ll miss him. He was frustrating, obviously…but somehow fun to watch at the same time. I hope he gets another shot, you never know.

5 hours ago, PDX Twin said:

He lost me when the harassment allegations hit. Such allegations are rarely proven, but in my experience usually true. That his play since then has spiraled downward has made me less conflicted about disliking him.

You’re entitled to your opinion, but I doubt your experience has any relevance whatsoever as it relates to a professional athlete making millions of dollars in a foreign country.

I’m going to that big guy. Nothing like hearing him crush a ball. I think it was 2019 at Kauffman stadium where this Royals fan in front of us seemed to really  relish throwing shade at Miguel. He came into the game struggling and stuck out on his first at bat but with a good looking cut. Next at bat he tattooed a ball that ended up being a game winning home run I recall. I felt like he could have been one of those rare guys to lift his team to another level but not it never happened. Best of luck!

He just couldn’t catch up to a good fastball above the belt. For all the strikeouts he didn’t chase that much. He just swung and missed at strikes. It’s a tough league when they find your weaknesses they are going exploit them until you adjust. He never seemed to be able to do that. I wish him well. 

Yes it's time for Sano to go.  I imagine someone will sign him for next year on a cheap contract.  The first guy to 1000 strikeouts in such a short time. That's what I remember.  Feast or famine.  Sadly far more famine.  Good luck Miguel!

It wasn't the number of strikeouts that was so, well striking, it was how they happened with the same three pitches, ending with the low and outside pitch.  How a major league player with all the tools available to him could be so consistently hopeless against any pitcher who could throw those three pitches was always amazing to me.  Is it really that hard to recognize a slider that is going to end up a foot outside and a foot low?

No chance he'll be back this season unless twins are totally out of the race and they just want to give him some courtesy AB's to say goodbye. He just never learned to be a legit major league hitter. Sort of like Adam Brett Walker...could hit the ball a mile..when hr connected...which wasn't very often.

1 hour ago, beterday said:

It wasn't the number of strikeouts that was so, well striking, it was how they happened with the same three pitches, ending with the low and outside pitch.  How a major league player with all the tools available to him could be so consistently hopeless against any pitcher who could throw those three pitches was always amazing to me.  Is it really that hard to recognize a slider that is going to end up a foot outside and a foot low?

LOL,  I didn't catch your real name, or which major league team you played for.  But for most of us, YES, it would really be that hard to recognize a slider from a ML pitcher.    And to those who were lost to Sano when he was "accused" of harrassment,  the charges weren't proven.  And I don't know either, whether they were true or not, but let's not discount what damage can be done by being falsely accused.  Good luck Miguel,  I for one hope you become the next Big Papi.

I think this assessment of Sano underrates his 2019 season, but over all it's a pretty fair assessment of his time in MN.

the hope was he would develop into a perennial all-star contender and he had the ability to get there with his prodigious power and good patience. You hoped he would be a 30-40 HR guy at 3B who would eventually transition to 1B-DH later in his career. he wasn't far off on the HRs, clearing 30 twice and 25 two more times. he moved off 3B sooner and reduced his overall value faster. The injuries started piling up, and reduced his effectiveness at the plate. (It's odd to think that 2021 was his "healthiest" season where he played the most games)

We took a loss on the contract during the contract years (too many injuries with diminished ability) but more than made up for it in earlier team-controlled years, so it's not like we lost money here. The RF experiment was a dreadful one and one of the moves that suggested the previous regime needed to be turned over, so...thanks for that?

I think "mixed" is the right final assessment. there were some big moments and great stretches. there was never the sustained success, but the great runs at the plate always raised expectations which always seemed to fall short.

It's time to move on. I expect someone will take a flyer on him for 1 year and $1-2M next season. He doesn't have significant splits as a hitter, and I don't know how other teams will view that. Less because he won't have a clear platoon role as a lefty masher, or more because he can just fill in as a power bat without needing to care about platoon advantage? But He's probably worth taking a flyer on at that kind of price...it just won't be here. And that's the right move.

It is a dead issue until spring so it is amazing how much angst it is getting.

Next spring we will see how the owners view Sano.

Geez. I hate this situation, but Ted’s writeup is about perfect. He really fairly represented every facet of this issue.

I feel like I’ll always hear the Tiffany song “Could’ve Been” in the back of my mind whenever I think of Sano. 

When they tried to get us to swallow he would be fine in right field I got worried. Then it was third base, then first base then DH with no justification for his spot in the lineup. Then we hoped Cruz would mentor him. He’s had the most chances of anybody I can remember. Kepler is not far behind. Time to move on.