The Numbers Behind Jose Miranda's Slump

Thanks, this is a good explanation of Miranda's troubles. This might be as simple as him being over eager in his first trip up to the MLB level.  Unfortunately, it looks like he needs a little more time at the AAA level. I expect him to go back down when Correa or Larnach is ready to play. Good first look, but just not ready yet.  

I'd like for the Twins to bring up Miranda when he's red hot, so I'd prefer him being brought up at the end of last season and waited a little longer this season. Nevertheless he's got his 1st taste of MLB so when he does go down he'll be that much hungrier and wiser to return.

I am not concerned long term.  I think this is a good learning experience for Miranda and he should be able to learn from it.  This is his first taste of MLB pitching.  Much like a lot of young guys who struggle they need time to learn how the best of the best will pitch them.  He made adjustments last year to become the prospect he did.  I bet he works on this over the year.  Not sure when he gets sent back, but he will at some point.  Some guys take much longer to adjust to MLB level.  

It's a big jump to the majors, not to mention playing first. You have to learn and get used to the different ways people throw you the ball. Be nice if he could rotate at third/DH with Gio, let's say. Get his swing back.

1 hour ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

Thanks, this is a good explanation of Miranda's troubles. This might be as simple as him being over eager in his first trip up to the MLB level.  Unfortunately, it looks like he needs a little more time at the AAA level. I expect him to go back down when Correa or Larnach is ready to play. Good first look, but just not ready yet.  

Or it could be like Refsnyder, this is about as good as it gets.

10 minutes ago, RpR said:

 

When Byron Buxton was 1st called up he was immediately the best CF in baseball. But he WASNT nearly the hitter he is now. Relax

If I remember, this was the book on Miranda before last year. Great ball-to-bat skills, but wasn't doing enough about it. Last year, he reportedly got more selective with his approach. It's seemed to me like he just needs to get back to that. We've seen (and hopefully he has seen) that he can hit pitches at a major league level. Now he needs to start choosing which ones to hit and which ones to ignore.

50 minutes ago, Trov said:

I am not concerned long term.  I think this is a good learning experience for Miranda and he should be able to learn from it.  This is his first taste of MLB pitching.  Much like a lot of young guys who struggle they need time to learn how the best of the best will pitch them.  He made adjustments last year to become the prospect he did.  I bet he works on this over the year.  Not sure when he gets sent back, but he will at some point.  Some guys take much longer to adjust to MLB level.  

I agree.  He'll either figure it out soon, or be sent down to figure it out.  But, I think he'll figure it out and be a good MLBer.

Well said, Mike. 

5 hours ago, RpR said:

Or it could be like Refsnyder, this is about as good as it gets.

Perhaps, but Larnach and Celestino have been examples of guys who really struggle their first times up, and then the second time (the next season), something clicked. This might be the case for Miranda too, or maybe 2021 was all a fluke. Who knows, but I'll err on the side of patience.

Hitting 3 homers in his first AAA game, on his birthday no less, set the bar very high. I'm also confident he'll come around, but I tend to think we need to be a bit more patient. It might not be this year. But he'll get there.

I think Miranda is going to be just fine. He just may not be quite ready yet. And that's OK. The learning curve is different for everyone. He's got all the ability and potential you could hope for. He was a high pick who Twins scouts and FO personal have been quietly saying for the past few years, from various reports; "just wait...just wait". Well, he started to figure it out in 2021.

My opinion? He's pressing. He got off to a poor start with St Paul and was getting hot when promoted. And he wants to do so well he's almost forgotten all the adjustments he made last year. He's suddenly reverted back to just making contact vs the good contact he figured out. And he could suddenly "click" any day! I hope like crazy that happens! But I think he needs to go back down when the roster gets healthy and take what he's learned and get himself right again.

I DO THINK the Twins did themselves, and Miranda, a HUGE disservice by not brining him up late in 2021 to get his feet wet then. He might be more ready now, regardless of any success he might have had.

18 hours ago, Alex Schieferdecker said:

If I remember, this was the book on Miranda before last year. Great ball-to-bat skills, but wasn't doing enough about it. Last year, he reportedly got more selective with his approach. It's seemed to me like he just needs to get back to that. We've seen (and hopefully he has seen) that he can hit pitches at a major league level. Now he needs to start choosing which ones to hit and which ones to ignore.

Exactly. now when he needs to get back to that. Either the Twins hitting coaches or those back at St. Paul need to get him back in that groove.

I think getting his feet wet this year, rather than last year, is fine. The team vibe is more positive, they are winning. Also, roster additions like Correa, Ursela and Sanchez bring preparation routines and playoff experience. This all makes for an ideal learning environment for Miranda. I'm not sure how it would have been for him last September on a disappointing team.

He will likely need more seasoning in St Paul when injured players return. But he'll be back.

I hope Correa is ready when they send Miranda down and that they let Lewis try his hand at 1b, just to keep his bat in the lineup. I know 1b won't be his position for long , but give it a shot

The problem right now with sending Miranda down, who plays first? Arraez some times, but who would back him up?  So I think Miranda has to stay and work through his batting issues.

Correa and Larnach are soon off the IL, but neither plays first.