Multiple Twins on Pace to Be Gold Glove Finalists

Kepler is the one guy who should get a gold glove. Arraez....no.

Perceptions can be distorted but it's hard to argue with numbers. I'm willing to bet Arraez's improving numbers are directly attributable to more playing time at 1B and less time moving around the infield. Same with Gordon in left. Rocco and the Twins should keep that in mind when it comes to handling Miranda; put him at 3B and leave him there if that's his primary position next season.

Gordon, the "player-who's-name-must-not-be-mentioned-at-shortstop" but who can play every other position, would obviously also benefit from a permanent home. Pick one Rocco and leave him there.

Arraez is good evidence that merics might be a crock of you-know-what.  He still looks awfully shaky to this former first baseman.

It appears that Arraez has found a home at 1B, with his limitations in range, He does well for being new to the position yet him being 2nd in ratings shows that defense metrics still has a long ways to go to be close to acurate.

Kepler should have won the award long time ago. Hopes he gets it this year despite his poor offensive #s.

Thanks for this update.  Only two twins shine - Arraez and Kepler which is not great for a team that wants to win.  CF discussions about Buxton are getting old.  Unless he miraculously gets so healthy he can play there everyday his potential does not matter.  

Gordon is shining at bat and in the field.  Good for him.

Polanco is a real disappointment.  Let's hope he is healthy next year - right now even his trade value is way down.

Sanchez improvement is still not good enough and Correa is good at SS, just not as elite as we had hoped. 

Question for you Cody, so does the location based statistics take into account the range and difficulty of CC4's plays at short?  I think he, and Urshella to a degree, have both made some incredibly difficult plays that other fielders may not even get to our would not get the throw to first on time.

3 hours ago, terrydactyls said:

Arraez is good evidence that merics might be a crock of you-know-what.  He still looks awfully shaky to this former first baseman.

A wise man once said that advanced metrics are an excellent way of predicting the past.

4 minutes ago, dxpavelka said:

A wise man once said that advanced metrics are an excellent way of predicting the past.

Excellent quote.  Was that wise man you?  I often quote myself to make a convincing argument.  I even did it in my senior paper at the University of Minnesota.

29 minutes ago, ashbury said:

 

"I often quote myself; it adds spice to my conversation. " -- G. B. Shaw

"A wise man once said, listen to wise men like me." -- me

 

"86% of statistics used to make an argument are made up on the spot." me

Arraez was supposed to DH & play some 2nd & 3rd along with spelling Sano at First when tough righties were throwing for opposition this season. Maybe 25 games at first at most - if Kirriloff was healthy he maybe plays 5 games at First. He’s leading the league in hitting - playing First regularly - 2nd in defensive metrics. He’s not tall - neither was Rod Carew……he seemed to transition from Second to First without all the hate - skepticism. Don’t get it - the guy’s played 3 positions & DHed and there’s complaining about the metrics not being accurate - why???

Sano didn’t win any gold gloves & his average is .120 points less - he’s tall though - $10 million waste in 2022!

Keppler is solid & hope he earns G. Glove the balance of the year. I’ll take Correa or any other SS that’s 5th in defensive metrics……..unlike Arraez, Correa & Keppler need to continue to pick it up with the bat!

5 hours ago, terrydactyls said:

Excellent quote.  Was that wise man you?  I often quote myself to make a convincing argument.  I even did it in my senior paper at the University of Minnesota.

Actually, it was either Gardy or TK.

I don't see any Twins winning a Gold Glove. Kepler is our best defender and Correa is really good, but that's it and they are looking to be behind others.

Arraez is soo impressive at 1B and has been since he started playing there. Familiarity was an issue, but skill was not.

GG voting is based off three metrics correct, not just SDI?

On 9/4/2022 at 9:05 AM, ashbury said:

 

Right.  SDI is the component that itself is based on three different/competing analytic metrics (unless the mix has changed).

Awesome for the clarification. Thank you.

On 9/4/2022 at 7:40 AM, USAFChief said:

Gold gloves are awarded based on:

- 75%. Voting by managers and coaches in each appropriate league. Managers and coaches cannot vote for their own players.

- 25% SDI

Right, but I expect the SDI is going to sway that vote mightily.