Gardenhire, Gladden, and Tovar to Twins Hall of Fame

I think all 3 are deserving. Not sure what took so long for Gladden and Tovar. 

I object to Gardenhire, other than his long time in the organization I have long not liked Gardenhire when he managed.  I cannot deny the team did overall well while he was manager, but he was about as plug and play manager there was.  He did have a short time where he thought outside the box when he had Jones be lead-off but other than that he hated trying new things that could have helped team actually win the playoffs. 

I always felt he was very overrated as a manager.  I would totally watch the induction if Joe West could show up just to eject him though.  I do not think a single series that Joe West did with Gardy did Gardy not get ejected at least one of the games. 

I am delighted, all three really deserve to be in.  Tovar was one of my favorite players in an era that was rich with good players.  He was the first of the ultimate utility men who played all over and did well at every position.  He was a favorite of Billy Martin and an excellent base runner.  It is about time!

Gardy was the face of the Twins for a long time, a great personality and longevity as well as a winning record makes him a good choice.

Gladden will now be introduced as Twins Hall of Famer on the radio broadcasts which is where most of his recognition is now, but he had a really fun career with two Twins championships and a Japanese championship too.  I loved his hustle.  He and Tovar make a good pair. 

I'm surprised they took all 3 in one year rather than spreading them out over the next 3 seasons. They don't produce 3 new "Twins Hall of Fame" players a year.

Next? My vote is nobody until Buxton or Berrios retires. If they can't wait that long, then Dave Goltz or Brian Dozier I suppose.

1 hour ago, drbob524 said:

Not sure what took so long for Gladden

He wasn't that good as a player or a broadcaster.

2 hours ago, Trov said:

I object to Gardenhire, other than his long time in the organization I have long not liked Gardenhire when he managed.  I cannot deny the team did overall well while he was manager, but he was about as plug and play manager there was.  He did have a short time where he thought outside the box when he had Jones be lead-off but other than that he hated trying new things that could have helped team actually win the playoffs. 

I always felt he was very overrated as a manager.  I would totally watch the induction if Joe West could show up just to eject him though.  I do not think a single series that Joe West did with Gardy did Gardy not get ejected at least one of the games. 

Agree on all points, and I would pay top dollar to see Joe West throw Burl Ives out of his own Twins HOF induction.

Does anyone know if Tovar is still alive? I'd like to see him able to receive the much-deserved award.

Tovar has passed away.

Gladden was good defensively.  He caught a fly ball that was over the fence and turned it into a triple play once against the Indians.  I would love to see that replay again.  

Who are all of the members of the Twins Hall of Fame? 

Is Brian Harper in?  it seems like he would be deserving as a top offensive C who played on the 91 team.  

4 hours ago, DJL44 said:

I'm surprised they took all 3 in one year rather than spreading them out over the next 3 seasons. They don't produce 3 new "Twins Hall of Fame" players a year.

I know I voted for Tovar and Gladden; can’t remember about Gardenhire.  It’s pretty rare for me to “win” in elections.  This has made my day!

Gladden (and possibly Tovar) is an example of the slippery slope of Halls of Fame and why I don't put a lot of value in them. If player A has a good run as a Twin and gets in, then player B should get in too. Same for player C, and D, and E. Etc, etc, etc. Now that Gladden is in, then what about Larry Hisle? Lyman Bostock? Jimmie Hall? Tom Brunansky? Randy Bush? Gene Larkin? Gary Ward? Shane Mack? Ron Coomer? Lenny Green? Roy Smalley?

I'm happy with all 3 choices and think all are very deserving.

Gladden, IMO, brought more to the team than defense and some solid but not incredible numbers. He brought hustle, spirit, and a bit of an edge that I think really helped propel both WS teams. (Personally, I like him as the color guy on the radio even if his play by play  is a little rough.)

I know some are a little down on Gardy and I'm not going to belabor any of the points I've heard before. While he was in charge of some bad teams, I'm not sure how some of those poor teams are his fault. Further, he was the man in charge of some very good, winning, playoff teams. He never got us to the WS, and a few injuries didn't help. The FO might have made a difference if they had added even a couple more depth pieces as well. But I can't deny the success so many of his teams had. I didn't always like everything he said or did, but I can't argue with those good seasons. He was still the man in charge for those good years.

Tovar probably should have been in already.

12 hours ago, PDX Twin said:

Does anyone know if Tovar is still alive? I'd like to see him able to receive the much-deserved award.

Pancreatic Cancer in the 1990s

All three are long overdue. Tovar set the table for three HOF's behind him in the batting order. Gladden was the gutsy player with determination just like he expounds as a broadcaster. Gardy was the face of this organization, did way more for it than he'll ever get credit for. You gotta love all three of them!

15 minutes ago, Karbo said:

Radke or Allison maybe

Radke was inducted in 2009. Allison was inducted in 2003.

15 hours ago, Brandon said:

Gladden was good defensively.  He caught a fly ball that was over the fence and turned it into a triple play once against the Indians.  I would love to see that replay again.  

Who are all of the members of the Twins Hall of Fame? 

Is Brian Harper in?  it seems like he would be deserving as a top offensive C who played on the 91 team.  

https://www.mlb.com/twins/history/twins-hall-of-famers

13 hours ago, Nine of twelve said:

Gladden (and possibly Tovar) is an example of the slippery slope of Halls of Fame and why I don't put a lot of value in them. If player A has a good run as a Twin and gets in, then player B should get in too. Same for player C, and D, and E. Etc, etc, etc. Now that Gladden is in, then what about Larry Hisle? Lyman Bostock? Jimmie Hall? Tom Brunansky? Randy Bush? Gene Larkin? Gary Ward? Shane Mack? Ron Coomer? Lenny Green? Roy Smalley?

Also when a team wants to induct people each year for the promotional weekend, eventually, you get very slim pickings.  I am not saying it needs to be as hard to get in as baseball HOF, but there is not a need to induct at least 1 each year.  

Terry Ryan looks like an omission

22 hours ago, DJL44 said:

Next? My vote is nobody until Buxton or Berrios retires. If they can't wait that long, then Dave Goltz or Brian Dozier I suppose.

I am guessing Mauer once he is eligible (is it five years off of the team?).   

I don't have an issue with any of the inductees, but they are going to run into some dry years, and as someone mentioned above, I wonder if they should have spread them out over three years..  

4 minutes ago, D. Hocking said:

I am guessing Mauer once he is eligible (is it five years off of the team?).   

I forgot about Mauer, assumed he was already inducted. They retired his number so that's a no-brainer.

By my rankings, Tovar makes sense, he was next man up.  That makes my top23 all named to the HOF except Mauer who I assume is coming soon.  I think Cuddyer (28), Guardado (34), and Gagne (35) were reaches.  Gladden is a big leap (I have him at 47) but I can see him getting a boost from his off the field work for the Twins in the booth which I don't give any bonus points in my rankings for.

https://wgom.org/2021/10/25/top-300-minnesota-twins-of-all-time-updated-through-2021/

To be frank, I consider the Twins Hall of Fame to be pretty embarrassing. It shows how pathetic the ownership of this franchise has been. Basically anybody with more than 3 years on the team is a shoe-in. The number of truly great Twins players is pretty short.

2 hours ago, bean5302 said:

To be frank, I consider the Twins Hall of Fame to be pretty embarrassing. It shows how pathetic the ownership of this franchise has been. Basically anybody with more than 3 years on the team is a shoe-in. The number of truly great Twins players is pretty short.

Totally agree. Hall of Fame should be for the elite few, not the pretty damn good, or worse. All three of these guys just water it down. I like Gladden and Tovar, but not HOF, not even close in my book. And Gardenhire? He couldn't even take the 2006 team to a WS, or win in the post season. He was more of a detriment to the fine teams, than an asset. The Twins HOF seems more of a marketing ploy, than a legit HOF.

2 hours ago, h2oface said:

The Twins HOF seems more of a marketing ploy, than a legit HOF.

This is probably true for almost every HOF, certainly the biggest ones.

7 hours ago, Nate Tubbs Rules said:

Gladden is a big leap (I have him at 47) but I can see him getting a boost from his off the field work for the Twins in the booth which I don't give any bonus points in my rankings for.

My opinion about Gladden's work in the booth is that it makes him LESS deserving of HOF honors.

22 hours ago, Nine of twelve said:

My opinion about Gladden's work in the booth is that it makes him LESS deserving of HOF honors.

Don't know how you feel about Dick Bremer but he fits the type of people who have been previously inducted.

So out of the possibles we have

Players: Joe Mauer, Brian Dozier, Dave Goltz?, Roy Smalley? Corey Koskie? Slim pickings here.

Non-players: Dick Bremer, Terry Ryan, Dave St. Peter, Mike Radcliff

2 minutes ago, DJL44 said:

Don't know how you feel about Dick Bremer

He's an unrepentant Twins fan who tries mightily to keep that in check when he works a game. Sometimes he succeeds and sometimes he doesn't, but when it bleeds through I think it's totally appropriate for his audience. (Find the video of Jim Thome on 8/17/2010 and the video of Brian Dozier on 7/10/2015.) I think he will be a deserving member of the Twins HOF after he retires.