3 Third Baseman Trades That Could Provide the Twins a Productive Bat

It will be interesting to see what the plan is. Are they really that confident in Miranda? Signing another third baseman would make no sense in light of the decision to move on from Urshela. The only thing that would make sense is if the Twins acquire another decent utility type if Miranda struggles or Farmer gets hurt. Someone who can play SS or 3B.

Arraez and Gordon have both played some third. I think Miranda will be better. But even so, I expect one of Lee, Lewis, Julian or Martin to wind up at third. Most probably Lee. I wouldn't trade away whats left in the farm system for anyone at this point. Especially not after letting Urshela go.

Offensively I think the most productive thing we can to do is better managing the teams health. 

We face LHPs about 8% of the time (my guess) so righty bats is good but not a premium. I agree with Karbo & prefer we get that bat at an OF/DH position.

Defensively we need a SS more that can hit RHPs which we face about 92% of the time (and will help out offensively which Farmer won't need to face RHPs), which frees up Farmer to help out at 3B & other positions.

Trying to figure out if the FO traded away Urshela it would be reasonable to think they like Miranda at 3B. 

A little more than 28% of the Twins plate appearances were against left handed pitching.

The Twins faced a left handed starter in 49 of 162 games (a little over 30%).

Devers trade value is about the same as Ryan and Duran. Over his career he is at best mediocre against left handed pitching. I think a right handed bat in the outfield is a better fit.

Miranda looks like a weak side platoon DH to me.  He is so stiff in the field I just don't see him being an average or better fielder.  However, I would avoid this list of third sackers.  If we could solve the SS situation, then Farmer could play some third along with Arraez while Lee develops.  Sounds like Lee is more of a 3B guy from the scouting reports I've read.

Anything the Twins sign will definitely be a below average player.  They traded a decent player Urshela for a low level pitcher we will probably never see.  Apparently the FO wasn't excited about paying an arbitration salary of around 9 million for him.  By trading Urshela for a song and dance they had created even more questions.  Miranda could maybe go to third.  He's played there before and looked pretty bad.  Maybe he will be better.  Seems this FO has created most of their own problems.  I don't see them trading for any of the players mentioned.  So far the off season has been a disaster.  Signing Vazquez was one of the better signings as we needed a catcher and now they have one.  Gallo?  11 million for a career .199 hitter is way over spend IMO.  If they were able to spend it on him why wouldn't they have invested that money into some much needed pitching?  He does homer in about once in every 15-20 at bats.  But seldom homers in the clutch.  He strikes out more than once in every three at bats.  Come on Falvey, and Levine.  You can do better than that.  If not you should be gone.  And take Rocco with you.  

52 minutes ago, gman said:

Arraez and Gordon have both played some third. I think Miranda will be better. But even so, I expect one of Lee, Lewis, Julian or Martin to wind up at third. Most probably Lee. I wouldn't trade away whats left in the farm system for anyone at this point. Especially not after letting Urshela go.

Exactly. Just no to all of the above. Let's see what Miranda and the other kids can do. If there is a problem and we are contenders, pick up someone at the deadline.

Hmmmh, they give away Urshela to clear third base for Miranda.  They have Lee likely needing a spot a year, or so, from now.  And here comes another article suggesting they use significant player/prospect capital to acquire a third baseman.

Bah-Humbug!

I really like articles that suggest a list of players the Twins should/could persue and go on to point out the weaknesses of those players which contradict the very reason to go after them. You mention Devers and say his defense is starting to look ugly and then suggest Miranda could be part of the trade to get him, yet you go on to say Miranda could become a right-handed version of Devers. Why then would you make that trade? I don't understand the hate for Miranda's defense on this site. How many games has he played at 3rd base? Let's all just assume he's going to be horrific. As for Rendon, he's set to make $38.5M per year for the next 4 years. If the FO wasn't willing to spend that type of money for a Correa they'd look like complete buffoons to trade for Rendon. Course, the Gallo signing has already made them look like buffoons so there's that. The Escobar ship has sailed, Why would anyone want him over Miranda? Well, maybe the buffoons, I guess. Point being..... the Twins don't need a 3rd baseman. Let's quit speculating on taking positions and at bats away from our better hitters. The Twins signed catcher Vazquez. Sorry Jeffers but that is an improvement. Now they need to sign a 1 year SS and find 3 outfielders that can hit above .230 and play everyday, if they are serious about improving the offense.

I would be willing to trade Pagan for Escobar.  Eduardo still has some pop in his bat.  He could be the right-handed DH and back-up the corner infield positions.  Beloved guy in the club house and fan favorite (including this one) when he was a Twin.  Think Devers would cost too much.  Believe Rendon is toast, wouldn't touch him.  Last thought I think Miranda will become a decent fielding 3B.  He has work ethic to become one.  Plus, if he only required to play 3B, will allow him to really focus on 3B.  Acquiring Escobar will reduce the need for him to play 1B too.  Go Twins!

Miranda is going to play average defense and be a perineal 300 hitter with power. He tore up the minor leagues and acquitted himself well in his first season. He can play 1st base if needed and of coerce DG. He's a right handed hitter which is at a premium. 

Miranda, Lewis, Lee, Krilloff, Laurnich, Wallner, Julian, Martin, We've been anticipating their arrival for the last 4 to 5 years. Let's put a bat and ball in their hands and let them play. And we still have Buxton, Arreaz , Gordon, Gallo and our catcher potion solved.  

By 2024 this group can be one of the premier lineups in the league, leading in batting average and at the top with home runs. 

Thanks for bringing this up, the Twins DEFINITELY still need to fix the left side of the infield, adding one more guy over there would be crucial. I also like the options of Max Muncy and Yoan Moncada, who wouldn’t be hard to get, as well as utility players like Ha-Seong Kim, Adalberto Mondesi and Joey Wendle.

As others suggested, third base seems to be covered by Miranda and Gordon as a utility. If we are going to bring new players, the areas should be right handed outfielder, maybe, given the Correa pipedream disappointment,  another shortstop, and pitching, especially bullpen. Although an extra good started wouldn't be bad. But I said bullpen because the bullpen was what, together with injuries, derailed the 2022 season.

Hmmm,  like  Urshela

5 hours ago, Karbo said:

IMO, the Twins focus should be on RH outfielder and relievers that can go 2-3 innings and still go out 2 days later and go again.

And the Gagne family agrees. ?

5 hours ago, Doctor Gast said:

Offensively I think the most productive thing we can to do is better managing the teams health. 

BINGO

We Have A Winner 

Winner, Winner, Chicken Parmigiana Dinner

i know it’s huge for every team, but if we focus on Health I really believe in this team’s potential. 
 

PS - just to spin everyone up, C4’s physical with the Mets has caused a pause. ??

PPS - I still take him tho

6 minutes ago, EGFTShaw said:

BINGO

We Have A Winner 

Winner, Winner, Chicken Parmigiana Dinner

i know it’s huge for every team, but if we focus on Health I really believe in this team’s potential. 
 

PS - just to spin everyone up, C4’s physical with the Mets has caused a pause. ??

PPS - I still take him tho

I really believe in this offense too.

5 hours ago, LewFordLives said:

It will be interesting to see what the plan is. Are they really that confident in Miranda? Signing another third baseman would make no sense in light of the decision to move on from Urshela. The only thing that would make sense is if the Twins acquire another decent utility type if Miranda struggles Farmer gets hurt. Someone who can play SS or 3B.

Like Brandon Drury?  Of course not.  That would've made too much sense.

Good grief - first we get another Correa article and then we propose trades for players who are either not as good as Urshela or one that is going to require a SS level signing.  No thanks.  Keep Miranda there, let him prove that he can handle both the bat and the bag. 

The Twins do have room for another bench guy (spare infielder) on the roster projection.

I'm surprised they couldn't trade Kepler to Toronto for the catcher and the right-handed outfielder that went to the Diamondbacks. I'm sure the Twins could have sweetened the deal with a young pitching prospect. Having the catcher the Jays dealt as the next in line, or perhaps Jefefrs replacement, would've been a big plus. The Blue Jays needed a lefty hitting, defensive outfielder. Kepler ahd two years of control yet.

Back to the post. Wonder what it would take to get Escobar back to the Twins?

Give Miranda a chance until Lewis returns, then decide if either Lewis or Farmer shift there.    

This article is a real nothing burger. 

23 hours ago, Karbo said:

IMO, the Twins focus should be on RH outfielder and relievers that can go 2-3 innings and still go out 2 days later and go again.

What reliever, still active or alive does as you want that actually has pitched the 2-3 innings every other day.