Game Recap: White Sox 16, Twins 4

Don't really have any words for this...

This one was clearly over in the top of the first. What an epic, epic disaster of a game, and a good look into the season. At least that one hurt the run differential so the twins fans/writers hanging onto the “unlucky twins” won’t have it in their favor. This team is absolutely horrible. The lineup has 2 really good hitters (Donaldson, Buxton when healthy) a good hitter (Cruz), and nothing after that. I think AK probably falls into a good hitter as well, but it’s still early and he’s hurt. Arraez is good as well, but not a game changing type of player. Polanco, garver, Kepler, and sano are an up and down roller coaster you expect out of rookie and 2nd year players, The pitching is absolutely horrible, and the depth that many thought they found off the waiver wire of MILB deals are all bad. Not shocking, considering they were available there for a reason, but for some reason we thought everyone was the next Matt Wisler (who is also bad now). It turns out at the end of the day, you get what you paid for, and right now we’re seeing the results of paying for mediocre talent and trying to turn them into average talent

Actually, there is one positive...

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4 minutes ago, Mike Sixel said:

Pitching gurus...  Where are you? I was promised pitching gurus....

What.....?? Pitching gurus? 

Oh.... thought you meant cookies.  Sorry, my bad. ?‍♂️

At this point you have to (my opinion) find some gallows humor don't you?  

I really think if the Sox had their "A" lineup----------missing Jimenez, Robert and Abreu--------they would've stood a great chance of scoring the most RUNS ever against the Twins tonight.  They had 16, but with those 3 thumpers against our rag tag meatball pitchers they would've eclipsed 20 runs.

For anyone wondering, the Twins lost 23-6 to the Royals on April 6th, 1974 in KC.

The Twins trailed 10-0 after the 2nd inning in that 74 game.

The Twins tonight trailed 10-1 after the 5th inning.

JA Happ fared a tad better tonight (6 ER in 3.2 IP) than Bill Hands did back in 74 (0.2 IP 7 ER). However, Danny Fife was the only RP of the five that followed to give up 4 ER.  Both Derrick (I did not beat the) Law and Shaun (don't call me Cassidy) Anderson BOTH allowed 4 ER in their combined 3.1 IP of gas can relief.

One last note:  Willians Astudillo even after his 1 ER allowed in the 9th has a better ERA (4.50) than either Law (8.53) or Anderson (9.00).

This pitching staff is something else.

I had to turn the game off at 10-1.  There is only so much pain I can endure at my age.

I wonder if the owner and front office have learned something from this year's experience.  It is likely that attendance will take a hit from the team not being watchable, a double whammy with COVID limitations early.  Sometimes fellows you have to spend money to earn money.  Not resigning a few of last year's arms to save a buck or two isn't panning out.  More likely, they will blame it on injuries.

1987 and 1991 were awesome.

Sigh...at least I can still listen to the extraordinary Jon Miller, radio voice of the SF Giants on streaming KNBR..

Hey now, Twins Fever.... Catch It!

Why would you have Happ start again against them? They hit lefties really well and he just got lit up against them in his last start. Maybe should have been a bullpen game instead and have him start in Anaheim.  Pretty much was one anyway.

Brand new day...same result or perhaps even worse. This time I just laughed instead of getting irritated. (I guess that's one of the eight stages fans have to go through in support of bad teams: 1) Disbelief, 2) Unfairness, 3) Bad luck, 4) Irritation, 5) Laughter, 6) Let's see who is in the minors who we could watch, 7) Cheer for the team playing the Yankees, 8) Turn on the hockey game.)

The only reliever not to walk anyone: Willians Astudillo! (I seriously hope we trot him out there in a one-run game. His ERA is better than half of the relief core.) Eight walks? Good gracious. If you walk eight against a team like the Chisox, it's going to look like a merry-go-round on the bases.

Momma always said that checking the Twins score in late innings is like opening a box of chocolates... and finding they all melted.

It's hard not to wonder what the FO has planned for this unlucky, under achieving bunch.  Will we have a major sell off ?

This is kind of like 1968 to me.  We had been a good team from 1962-1967 with just one clunker year (1964) and even that year gave us the Rookie of the Year (Oliva) 49 HR's out of Killebrew, 32 HR's out of Allison and 25 HR's out of Jimmie Hall.

Kaat, Pascual and Mudcat were "decent" starters and Al Worthington was tremendous out of the bullpen.  In 1965 we won the pennant, in 1966 we finished 2nd and in 1967 we lost out to the Red Sox on the last day of the season.  Then came the disaster of 1968.  Killebrew hurt, Oliva hurting, Allison and hall a shells of their former selves, Zoilo traded to the Dodgers.  I NEVER saw a season like 1968 coming for the Twins after all those solid years.  They rebounded to win the West in 1969 and 1970 before many lean years came to pass.  Is this just a cursed year?  Or are major changes needed ??

7 hours ago, TheMatt said:

Why would you have Happ start again against them? They hit lefties really well and he just got lit up against them in his last start. Maybe should have been a bullpen game instead and have him start in Anaheim.  Pretty much was one anyway.

Tim Anderson (and presumably the White Sox in general) basically laughed at the Twins when they signed Happ.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/yanksgoyard.com/2021/01/22/yankees-tim-anderson-reaction-ja-happ-signing/amp/

8 hours ago, LA VIkes Fan said:

Hey now, Twins Fever.... Catch It!

Fortunately I am now fully vaccinated.

Why pitch a LH against White Sox? If Twins are so analytical, the odds of success are minimal and Happ just got knocked around last week. If I was Happ may have woken up with some "tightness in my back". Next on BP options.

Astudillo is has the second best BA out of players with 80+ ABs.   Astudillo has the fifth best ERA+.  And he has the best attitude, joy, and energy.  He came in to be the catcher when Garver was hurt despite the fact that he is hurt.  He is 8th in WAR among batters.   Only three RPs among all we have had this year have an ERA+ over 100 - Robles, Rogers and Astudillo.  I love having Astudillo on the team, but I do not want to see him leading our team in so many ways.   Our full season roster has 17 players with negative WAR out of 41 players.   Seven players have zero WAR (zero value?). And 14 of these zero and negative players are on our current active roster. 

Larnach has proven he belongs. 

Refsnyder and Garlick give the FO more hope that they can find cast off that they can turn into "stars", although Garlick is a negative WAR.  

Happ and Shoemaker have ERA plus of 60 and 74!  No that is not good enough for your 4th and 5th starters.  

Kenta Maeda has ERA+ of 75.  Just a tick above these two, but not enough to even be a fifth starter.

Maeda, Shoemaker, and Colome are the bottom three in team WAR. 

Can we trade rosters with one of our minor league teams?  Is there any reason Jeffers is not back up with the team?  

I am, learning to enjoy the angst in the postings and I hope no one quits  filling these spots with your thoughts and tears.

Good thing there are no longer attendance restrictions so all the fans can rush into Target Field...will be interesting to see what trades do or do not happen moving forward.  

Here's a quote from Rocco: "This is not OK. We all have to know that, acknowledge that, own it and do what we need to do going forward to make sure that this doesn’t persist, because it was hard. I mean, that was a hard game to get through."

Well that ought to do the trick.  Thank God we didn't hire a crass guy like LaRussa,  At least in our dugout, everyone feels comfortable!

3 hours ago, ashbury said:

They hit a home run off our bullpen ace-in-the-hole Astudillo.

Season Officially Over.

Ok, I didn't watch the game (who would?), but after watching replay---Mercedes at some point down the road------better "wear one"--below shoulder level------for his BUSHLEAGUE antics in 9th last night!  Up 15-4 with a 3-0 count----you don't swing you moron!  Moreover, you don't swing against a position player thats pitching.  With Rocco at the helm, I'm sure they'll be ZERO repercussion in the foreseeable future as retaliation is "too old school," but I got to think a fair number of vets on this team--if they have ANY competitive fire----will make sure Mercedes pays for that.  I got to believe LaRussa was not pleased with that swing either.  If he did indeed sanction it, he's an idiot.

For anyone keeping score to the number of runs the Sox have piled on in just 4 games-----the count is now at 40.  With 15 games still to play this season, is it possible they could score 200 runs against our collection of misfit toy pitchers?  Their on pace to score 190 runs------just against the Twins.  Think about that.  Yes, very depressing.  For anyone interested in replying, what's you prediction on this matter:  Over/Under 150 runs scored by Sox this season?  I'll take the over.

well from the west coast it all looks pretty bad. i put the game on at work and watched as happ loaded the bases in the first inning. by the time i got home it was 10-1. i went to the kitchen and it became 12-1. i believe in being a fan through the good times and bad but this is hard to watch. i turned the game off and resumed reading 3 days in august.