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Absolutely correct. If the Astros are found guilty of this then it is entirely fair to conclude that Marwin is complicit in this by saying nothing. The data and video evidence certainly proves that some players were wearing a wire and almost every position player benefitted from the banging garbage can signs. I doesn't surprise me no Astro player has spoken up to distance themselves from this. Marwin simply just isn't worth the trouble given what has transpired. I would hope they simply discard him like a worn out part. Just DFA him without fanfare.

I know he got a few hits in the Yankees series (which is more than I can say for anyone not name Arraez or CRuz), but something about him during that series rubbed me the wrong way. Giggling at first base with the Yankees during all that a few times just stuck in my craw. Discard him. I don't want him on this team, not in light of that breakdown of how involved he was.

What was the point of "Number 3 Starter" in the title? I am wondering the same thing. Is this sarcasm, what to OP feels? Why the ambiguity?

The damage was already done and they literally HAD TO trade him. I absolutely hated the Mets deal from jump street. Being a New Yorker, I knew a little about Carlos Gomez and I didn't like him. My best friend is a Mets fan and he loved Gomez. I thought he was one of the dumbest players I have ever seen on top of being a complete hot dog. Between him and Punto I was pulling out my hair in 2008. They gave us some of the most unprofessional at bats I have ever seen. You cannot make it that easy for the other team to get outs and these morons were bunting with two strikes! The worm turned when we dealt Hunter and Santana and it wasn't just their talent we lost.

The Red Sox and Yankees basically said SCREW YOU to the Twins and then it was all over. They had a small window to make that deal. Smith made a tactical error by playing a game of chicken with those two teams. They withdrew and figured we will wait until free agency. To heck with dealing away young players if our deals aren't good enough (and if it was reported correctly it was good enough).The Red Sox were willing to give up what you said and the Yankees (I believe) had Melky Cabrera, Phil Hughes and I forget who else. Certainly not terrible in comparison to what we had to settle for with the Mets.

I had no problem with the Delmon for Garza trade and it would be nice to see a similar kind of trade made, only the other way around. For all of Delmon's real faults and perceived faults he was a talented hitter. The Twins did a HORRENDOUS job with him. Absolutely horrendous. I will never forget hearing Gardy on with PA and Dubay at the Winter Caravan or whatever and when they asked him what the OF would look like he had Delmon in right, Cuddy in left and Gomez in CF. I guess Cuddyer wasn't having any of that so they moved Delmon to left and batted him third, basically setting him up to fail Even worse was what was done with Brendan Harris. After what Punto did in 2007 Gardy STILL thought of him as an everyday player and he nitpicked Harris for his glove. I would much MUCH rather have had Harris in the lineup than Punto and lose whatever defense Punto brought. I actually think the presence of Nick Punto was a big problem for the Twins. He was a living breathing example of favoritism and it did no good for anyone. Gardenhire should have never been extended after the 2010 season

Not harsh at all. Ryan actually stepped down and basically admitted that the job was too much for him. He had no problem, however, coming back after the team had bottomed out. The kind of "low risk/high reward" move TR just loved to embrace

How long have these guys been around? THe answer is not even four years. If we are to ask fan bases around the league which are the franchises that have a strong reputation and track record for raising pitching our Twins wouldn't crack the 10 or even he top 20, to be quite honest with you. I think maybe we should wait awhile and see some arms actually come through the system before such a claim can be made.

The Twins have a good reputation for pitcher development? Where are all the great pitchers we’ve developed over the last 20 seasons? I think pitcher development has been a major weakness for us. In between Liriano (who we traded for) and Berrios we have had a terrible run for developing starting pitching.

It is the wins that happened to coincide with those uniforms. I think those uniforms from that era are among the most horrendous there are. I don't like pinstripes because they look cheesy. I don't like stupid mustaches either. This coming from a guy born in 1966 who basically lived his best most memorable years in the 80s. I am going strictly on aesthetics as I believe that uniform had nothing to do with the performance. I also hate the "m" hats. Call me crazy, I know

I have had a baby blue pull-over sweater (no hood) for over ten years. It is in awesome shape and it is great to wear with my down vest on mild winter days.

You're dancing, but I don't hear any music

I know I have put Eddie out there as trade bait to bring in a pitcher, but can we please acknowledge that he is a better player than Cave by virtue of the fact that he has over 2,000 plate appearances and has proven that he can hit and play day-in-day out. I am taking nothing away from Cave by saying this. You are overthinking this one. Ask 10 people on the Twins who is better Cave or Rosario and 10 out of 10 will tell you it's Eddie. No deep analysis is required

Ick. I’m sorry but I’m tired of that phrase Up and down our lineup we have guys under 28 years old. These are good everyday players and we have several locked up for a few years. How is trading Lewis and any other position player “mortgaging the future”?? We are a young team as it is with two notable players exceptions. When you have a nucleus of players in their mid-20s you might as well deal prospects to complement the young talent. This is something Terry Ryan never seemed to understand. All that said, NO WAY on Price and why trade anything for Betts? I like Betts but that doesn’t make sense

I have no interest in a guy like Price. He has cache because of what he did years ago. He is not the same guy and even when he was he was notoriously horrendous against the Yankees. Not plain old bad....I’m talking horrendous. If the goal is to get someplace in the playoffs this isn’t the answer. I’m ok with those names you want to trade. Lewis is not Derek Jeter. He’s a tradable piece. That is how all prospects should be viewed at this point. We have a nucleus of guys in their mid 20s so we don’t need to treat prospects like they’re gold. Treat them like they are meat. Use them.

Felt like I was reading a text message from one of my under 30 friends

If we extend Odo then we should consider acquiring Worf. I like his toughness and discipline

I will say this about Mr. Donaldson..... His workout regimine is not in question. Why? Because you really can tell whether or not a guy is or isn't in good shape just by observing him over a period of time. Hopefully veterans like Cruz and Donaldson will rub off on the younger guys. It is a different game. There are literally hundreds of millionaires playing this game. It isn't in 1954. Guys don't have to sell real estate of work in coal mines during the off season. They have chefs, home gyms, and about 5 months of off season. You either use it or you don't/ Donaldson? Cruz? Even Torii Hunter. Those guys work during the off season. Lots of others do as well. They worked hard to build strength and stamina. I would hope Sano is doing the same this off season because it has been an issue for him.

This team has been absolutely horrendous at raising its own starting pitching. I challenge anyone to make a list of the three best starting pitchers we drafted and developed over the last 20 years. We are among the worst teams at doing this, possibly the worst.

I had no idea what this thread was about. Why not simply say Press Conference?

I’d like to see anyone pitching for us in the postseason (if we make it) have a fighter’s chance. We averaged less than 3 runs scored in the last 16 playoff games. You can name two of best pitchers of the last 50 years to pitch for and we still might not get through with the kind of at bats I’ve seen. Look.... to me, our offense has been so moribund during this playoff run that I’m not sure that Cole, Strasburg and Bumgarner would have gotten us out the first round last year. It take a total team effort. By saying “we need an ace” to get through the first round you’re going to a safe place. It supposes we are real close—that one more guy would do the trick. It also allows the fan to complain about the cheapness of the Pohlad. I subscribe to neither theory when talking about playoff futility. There is something to where the mindset is. If last season was a smashing success to this organization then I don’t know where we ever turn a corner. It’s as simple as that

I was suggesting Donaldson probably wanted to stay/play in Atlanta because it made sense to me that he wanted to finish his career near home. He had a great year there last season so I felt he probably would lean toward sticking with that setup because it worked. That pull wasn’t so strong and it appears that 8 or 10 million extra moved the needle. I also insisted that wouldn’t be enough for top players earning nine figure or close to it the be swayed. I was wrong. I hope to be wrong again regarding the risk behind signing a 34 year old go to be an everyday position player. If he gets injured for an extended period of time this year the deal turns into a disaster. As it stands now I am pleased to have Donaldson. My eyes are wide open, though. He’s going to need to perform this year.

100% agree.