This is what Dave Cameron said about the Dodgers starters not named Kershaw in response to someone giving reasons why he thought the Dodgers' rotation with Kershaw wasn't good.: 'The 2016 line of Maeda/McCarthy/Kazmir/Norris/Urias. 385 IP, 8% BB%, 24% K%, 1.05 HR/9, 98 ERA-, 92 FIP-, 93 xFIP- That FIP- and xFIP- would rank 7th in baseball, putting that group in line with the Cubs, and just a tick behind the Indians. Maybe you can’t see that this group has pitched well this year, but they have. You can think Bud Norris is bad if you want, but ignoring that he added a new pitch and has run a 3.40 ERA/2.82 FIP/3.04 xFIP over his last nine starts is silly. Saying that McCarthy “stank” last year and the year before betrays a lack of knowledge of his improvements. Citing Kazmir’s ERA and HR rate while ignoring every other positive is intellectually dishonest. The Dodgers non-Kershaw starters this year have performed well. Full stop.'