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  1. Trov
    I bet I could find a trade package you would be willing to part with Lewis. I assume your statement would be based on likely trade packages, but there would be something out there that should sway you. If not, then I am sure glad you are not the GM. No player should be untradable for the right deal. What if Padres were offering for Lewis, Soto, Tatis, Machado, Musgrove, and Gore. Again, this trade would most likely never happen, but you say no matter the potential return. I sure would make that deal. What if a deal was for Otani signed long term, and Trout from the angles? Would you take that deal? What if Yankees offered Cole and Judge? Now, I now some will say none of those trades will happen, which is most likely true, but when you say no return is worth it, I will go to extremes too.
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    I bet it will be Buck most of the time. Rocco does not care about typical lead off guys. He wants his best hitters to be at top of line up to get the most at bats. It could be Gallo because he tends to take more pitches and work counts, where Buck will attack the first pitch, but overall it really does not matter because we do not build a line up any more with old school thoughts in mind.
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    Pretty sure you hit the nail on the head with Sisk, that no one took him in rule 5. I mean KC could have taken him, but they chose not too, but instead take him in a trade, so they do not need to put on MLB roster all year. Meaning they were not even sold on him being on the MLB roster next year. It is possible he is finally figuring it out, but last year was by far his best year in the minors, and college ball. Although his WHIP at AAA was just over 1.000, it does not include his 4 batters hit. He only pitched 34.2, which when you include the 4 hit batters, he goes up to about 1.2 WHIP. He still averaged 4.7 walks per 9. He is not someone I would want in high leverage any time soon. When you average a walk every other inning, you are putting a lot of guys on base for free in high leverage situations. He is still just a reliever that will pitch 50 to 60 innings at best a year. Maybe he will be good and we will wish we never made the trade, but when every team in baseball says he is not MLB ready I tend to trust the fact that the full MLB are not missing something.
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    I am pretty sure we can stop listing Alex Kirilloff as an OF. He clearly will be filling in at 1B and no intentions of him playing OF based on current team. Yes, he can play it, and what he came up doing, but he will play first here on out. Celestino will get sent down to AAA. My guess they will trade him if a team comes knocking with a good deal, but he can be down in AAA all year if we want. Being he is RH hitting, can play CF if needed, he will stay on team most likely. Pretty sure it is clear, unless health of Larnach is still a huge concern, Kepler will be going somewhere, just where. The hope will be that Buck does not need to DH as much this year, but it is nice to see we now will not drop off a ton on defense when he has to sit. I like the move, and it shows the FO knows the flaws and willing to fill holes and not just hope things work out.
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    Every team has always tried to unlock something in a pitcher that has stuff. We are not new at this. Some pitchers buy in, make changes, and come out of no where. Others either do not buy in, or just never make the full adjustment. It is also easier to take on a risk of a mid-tier guy, and try to get more out of them, then a top tier guy and hope they stay there. When the top tier fades, eventually the contract or trade looks bad, but if the pitcher coming is stays mid-tier we are fine with that, it is what we paid for, but if they climb up then it is just bonus.
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    I would say too early to call Sabato or Cavaco flops, either could still work way into MLB level. To me they will be flops if they never make majors or just a cup of coffee and get bounced. Although neither have flown up the minors like we would hope they are still in system. I mean until last year, you would have called Gordon a flop, but after putting up 1.6 WAR we are calling him a staple. It took Gordon 7 years to make MLB debut out of high school. Cavaco is entering his 4 season, 5th year removed from HS. He still has time to give something. Sabato still has time as well. The other 2 were busts for sure. Lewis has had 2 missed seasons mainly due to torn ACL, I would not say that is injury prone, but had 2 long injuries. If his injuries were of many types and constant missed time, not single big stretches, that is injury prone to me. The other 2 have had a varity of injuries that have led to long stretches and short ones, so they kind of fall into that. Petty was traded, but the trade brought in Gray who has provided value. Even if Petty never makes majors, he gave us value. Too early for Lee as you said. I would say still too early to have final report on Cavaco and Sabato, and could still provide something. Need to remember no team hits on first round picks every draft.
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    I do not see the Twins signing anyone just to DH at this point. I also do not see them making a full time DH, but will use it as a kind of day off thing, similar to what they did last year. Maybe someone will emerge as a regular DH, but to start I doubt anyone will be locked in.
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    When Arraez for Lopez was being floated as a 1 for 1 trade, or some were saying the Twins should throw in a player to get trade done, I was not for it. However, this trade to me is a slam dunk win for Twins. As much as I loved Arraez, I feel the Twins made an amazing move. First, they clearly could tell the Marlins desire to get a 2nd base guy, and a good hitter. They also knew Marlins were willing to part some of their starters, but Lopez was the clear one they were looking to deal. The FO stood strong and made the Marlins give more value. The fact they were able to get a top prospect and a good, not great pitcher, in the deal is great. As much as I loved watching Arraez bat, he was limited to mostly singles, with some flashes of power. He was fun guy to see play, but he was not anything amazing. He is limited on defense, and his running limited him as well. The fact is, we have several guys that should have overall good value that can fill in. The fact that we got not only a top 100 prospect, that unless he has terrible year should only go up, we also got a flier prospect. The fact that the the top prosect is most likely a couple years away means he will either be trade value, or will help out when we lose other guys to FA. When I saw what we got back in return I thought this was amazing trade for Twins.
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    I would not give Gurriel too much. If we could get him on a low cost to be right handed at bat and maybe bring back some value I am okay with it, but I would not pay him to be full time 1B.
  10. Trov
    The FO has made it clear, if they cannot sign a player they will trade them to get some value out of them. Berrios was in the same situation. Fans may prefer us to just pony up more cash, but I for one is a fan of the moves.
  11. Trov
    First, if the team is targeting "distressed assets" as you put them, that is an issue. However, as many have pointed out, outside of Paddock and Mahle I do not think that is really an issue. You left out Big Mike who they signed to 2 year deal, knowing the first year was a rehab year, that is a much better example. If the Twins are using the fact that they can sign certain players that maybe they would not normally be in on because their is risk of injury then so be it. Yes, we signed CC because other teams were not willing to take risk of 13 or 12 year deals, as they had offered, but that just opened the door. Is he "distressed asset" because he has a potential red flag for injury then okay, but he has not shown any issue of that injury in his career. To me, the signing of Big Mike, and extension of Paddock is really the only instances where they spent bigger money on a player that may not give much value due to injury risk. The traded players are players that had history known or unknown but any guy, particular pitcher, could come up with injury. Some people think a pitcher not having TJ is a red flag because most get it at one point in career now.
  12. Trov
    Please name the 1 starter they could have had for 19 million that would have put them over the top? Also, how would Rodgers, who had a terrible season after May. He got worse as the season went on, but okay having a guy with negative WAR would have helped us. According to baseball reference, Pagan had -0.4 WAR, and Rogers had -0.7 WAR. Logic would suggest Rogers would not have made the difference. I also cannot think of a single starter we could have signed for 1 year 19 million that would have made a difference. If you can please let me know.
  13. Trov
    I think as it pertains to the Splinker, is much like a hanging offspeed, when he missed with it, he could get hit hard. Also, half of his HR is 3, and although he only threw the pitch at 16% he still threw it 163 times. Being it averaged 96 MPH, compared to 4 seam at 100, or curve at 87. He still got a whiff rate of 34% on it compared to only 26 on 4 seam. My guess it generally would come down to location, where it would stay much more thigh high. It would allow hitters to catch up to it, and was more in the zone compared to others. Working on getting off the zone more, or lower in zone will help I would say. It is not like it is a bad pitch, but maybe not as good as we have been told. His curve was much more effective. In terms of the more multi innings, I agree the logic seems to defy the numbers, that he did better with less multi inning games. However, where maybe the writer should have included, was that if you look at his game logs. From what I can see only 1 time did pitching in 2 innings actually have a negative result for him. He allowed runs in 10 games all season. Only 1 game was in the second inning of pitching, and the other 9 were in 1 inning outings. I do recall a few times he may have pitched into a second inning and was pulled after allowing runners, that did not score, but overall he was fine with multi inning outings. The only game was also April 15th.
  14. Trov
    Lewis injury was an overall fluke. Many guys make the transition to OF from infield. To argue that because someone who has not played the OF will get injured, means that everyone will get injured playing OF, because at some point it is their first time playing it. I could go over several guys that transitioned to OF later in career, or even early in career after playing infield whole time growing up, that never got injured playing OF.
  15. Trov
    Personally, I believe playing corner OF is one of the easier defensive positions to play. The hardest thing is judging where the ball will be and taking good routes. SS have to practice good routes on pop ups all the time, so it is not like he will have not had some level of practice on that. I will say that a great defender in the OF can help a ton, robbing doubles and what not, but it is much easier to transition to OF from infield than other way. Gordon was pointed out as recent, but we have had many others on our team, Cuddyer was drafted as SS, moved to 3b at MLB and eventually went to right. Our now Joey Gallo I believe was a 3b in college and coming though minors, to become a top OF defender. Gordon for KC similar path, 3b on defense coming up to transition to LF and was amazing there. I am not saying Farmer will be top notch, but it is not uncommon to make the switch, even late in career.
  16. Trov
    I doubt there is much interest in Gordon on the trade market, for the same reasons people are attacking him in this post. He does not have a track record, is not good against LH pitching, meaning he is platoon split guy, and will not likely be the kind of power hitter you want from that kind of a split. That being said, I feel he still gives value, as he may not be the top defender at many positions, he could play them if needed, just not looking to start or play every day at them.
  17. Trov
    First, no player is untradable in my opinion. As long as the return is worth it, any player can be traded. Now, I agree I would not trade straight up for Lopez, which as been a rumor the Marlins are asking for. The Twins have rejected that offer. There are rumors they are looking at more controllable pitching. You say we cannot trade Arraez, but what if the offer was Arraez for Sandy Alcantara, would you do that? What if it was Arraez for Alcantra and one of their other staters? Again, I doubt Marlins do this, but my point is, at some point you have say that is good deal and be willing to trade Arraez. If your post was just not for Lopez, okay, but if your post, as titled, is in no offer at all, then I disagree.
  18. Trov
    We assume it is Gallo over Kepler, as we assume he will get moved, but it should be Gallo over other 4th OF options. Not saying Gallo is 4th OF, but he will start any of the 3 positions, pushing someone out or down the list. If he can regain his Texas form, he will be a boon to our offense, but at least he can put up big defense either way. Correa is a push because he is who we had last year. Is Farmer better than Urshela that is the only other real addition we have had. Maybe the one we should talk about is the change in medical staff, if they can keep our team on the field and healthy that will make a huge difference.
  19. Trov
    I give little weight to scouting of these kids at 16 and 17 years old. Even ore so on the rankings. Many time the top ranked prospect does not pan out, and the much further down does better over a career. Not saying there is no weight to be given, but lets wait and see what becomes in 3 plus years, as they are not even likely to come state side for minor league ball for 2 to 3 years.
  20. Trov
    I remember Gioleto being a highly touted HS pitcher but coming off TJ that year, so he fell based on that. Took some time but he finally had some good years. These show how much of a crap shoot drafts can be.
  21. Trov
    I do not expect any of them to do enough to crack our 40 man out the gates, barring injuries to others, but will love to see how Lee does at the plate. I have a feeling he makes a debut this year after some injuries to infielders.
  22. Trov
    The one thing to remember about the trade value machine you like to use is that it is subjective to the person putting in the data, but does not look at how the team values the player. For example, the trade value has Rodriguez at 14.2, and Miranda at 26.4. Personally, I think long term Rodriguez will be a much better player than Miranda, but Miranda is MLB level and Rodriguez is A ball right now. If a team has high expectations of Rodriguez they will not care about the value in the this machine. When it comes to prospects, it is hard to determine how much value a team puts on them. I know you can look at national rankings, but that does not mean a whole lot if a team themselves values them base on their opinions.
  23. Trov
    I pay little attention to international prospect rankings. In 2015, Juan Soto was ranked 22nd according to MLB rankings. Gilberto Celestino was 7th. Tatis Jr. was ranked 27th. It is almost impossible to project 16 year olds. Some turn into Juan Soto, and some never make it out of high A. We have had plenty that fade quickly, but then we have had Sano, Kepler, Polanco. Most recently we have Rodriguez from 2019 looking like he could be a stud. Hopefully this guy is a stud, but I pay no attention to the rankings when we are talking about 16 year old kids that some have not hit their last growth spurt.
  24. Trov
    As many said, if he signs on minor league deal and we see if he can be healthy. I would hate to see a line up with him and Gallo in the line up. Throw in Walner and we would have like 12 K's from them alone some games.
  25. Trov
    Technically, that Ariel Castro was not a serial killer, he did not kill his victims, they all lived.
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