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  1. No it isn't.... all you have to do is look to see who is managing, then it all makes sense.
  2. I would have to disagree. Both Jeffers and Arraez have established themselves to be major league players that are important to the Twins going forward. Jeffers was headed towards a good 2nd half of the season before the broken thumb. He'll be just fine come 2023. Arraez has already proven he's one of the best hitters in the game. A second half slump of a .276 batting average is still respectable in todays game and still makes him one of, if not the best hitter on the team. As for Celestino, he's a good defensive player that should never be used as more than a 4th outfielder. With a broken Buxton every year the Twins need to find a better part-time center fielder to play when Buck is not. The FO has chosen to pay for a part-time Buck and need to adjust their "Plan" to account for it. Ober, Winder, Moran, and Larnach have the most to prove.
  3. "Rocco is very good at supportive messages. He's kind, and he sees the best in his players. Sadly, I think that's maybe part of the problem. I don't think he understands how to instill a sense of urgency and hunger in his players. " Yes, We have seen poor fundamentals in the field by players and poor management such as, the lack of trying to manufacture runs. Rocco accepts not scoring if they can't do it the way they've done it in the past. (Bomba Squad) The acceptance of normalcy or less has become okay and that makes winning when it matters difficult to almost impossible.
  4. Absolutely a great article. There are a lot of things wrong with this organization that you enveloped. The two that I'd like to emphazise are,... winning when it matters and not having a problem with losing. I think those 2 are key to the culture that the Twins have fallen into. When you can't beat a team like the Yankees and then walk away thinking, well yeah, we lost, they're the Yankees, we weren't suppose to be able to beat them anyway, you have a major problem. Even before the injuries decimated this team, they could not beat a good team. Injuries are not an excuse for poor play, poor management decisions and just going out onto the field with an uninspired approach to playing. Sure, they go through the motions and play the game but playing with conviction and the desire to win every game just doesn't seem to be there, but rest assured that the FO and ownership will use the injury excuse to blame away another season instead of the real problem which you explained so perfectly.
  5. If Tingler was a problem in SD why is he with the Twins? Looks like another acquisition that this FO didn't do their homework on. As I previously posted in another topic page.... Toronto turned their season around this year AFTER they fired their Manager. Twins FO could have done the same thing but didn't. Kind of makes you realize they and Rocco are joined at the hip. Only way to change the Manager and Coaches looks to be a FO change as well. Does Pohlad have both the guts and brains to do it? Only time will tell.
  6. Not what I said. I said "some" of their young players. Miranda and now Wallner are both examples if you can't see clearly. Miranda did not make the team out of spring training even though he tore up AAA last season. Wallner would not be on the team if Kepler was not hurt. Guys like Sano and Kepler weren't performing and were only replaced because of injuries. Is Miranda more deserving to play than Sano? With his primary position being 3rd base, they had Donaldson blocking the way. Then they trade him away and refill it with Urshela. How is that committing to a deserving player and giving him a shot? Miranda is here and getting consistant at bats only because Sano is hurt. How about Wallner verses Kepler? It took way too long for them to bring him up while they lived with Keplers weak bat and hole in the middle of the lineup.
  7. Any prospect that has played well in the minors that they don't promote verses using veterans who don't perform. The only reason why some of them are playing on the major league roster is due to injuries. IT'S NOT DUE TO PERFORMANCE! Did you even read my post?
  8. I will give the FO credit for making moves at the deadline to improve the team. That's what everyone wants if your team is in contention. What I won't give them credit for is acquiring players that aren't difference makers. 1. An injured pitcher (Mahle) to improve a weak rotation when they knew that pitcher was having problems is not a good move. On top of that Mahle is an average middle of the rotation pitcher. I would even catagorize him with a guy like Bundy. He's only had 1 good season in his career, 2021. but as with any player being evaluated by this organization that's all they look at, the 1 good season and they ignore all of the bad seasons somehow thinking or just hoping they will only get the good and not the bad. 2. Fulmer, he isn't a high end reliever, only an innings eater. 3. Lopez was having a great season. Why is it when he comes to the Twins he has a lights out initial game then the longer he is here he gets progressively worse? Maybe it's coaching? He was the only one with really good numbers coming in and they seemed to have ruined him since his arrival. If not, his numbers at Baltimore this year were an anomoly and his real ability is now on display again. 4. Leon, a third string catcher that can't hit and was on the AAA squad of the team you are trying to catch doesn't seem like much of an effort to improve but more of one to get by. Can't one of your own AAA catchers do the same thing? If not you're not doing a very good job of signing prospects. In retrospect, they did a horrible job adding those 4 players at the deadline. No matter how you look at it these 4 acquisitions were just bad and sometimes stupid goes with bold and aggressive.
  9. It's too bad that it takes injuries to get the Twins to try some of their young players that rake in the minors. Maybe if they weren't so cautious with some of their prospects and quit playing the veterans that don't produce they'd be a better team. Not saying that all of them will perform once they get to the big league club, but if it weren't for injuries players like Wallner and even Miranda wouldn't be playing. First option for the two positions they are playing were Kepler and Sano and neither one can hit the broad side of a barn anymore but if they were healthy they'd be the first choice to be playing. Insanity!
  10. As for the Twins reload, it was very poorly executed. To make matters worse they doubled down and traded away some good prospects at the deadline for what is little to no chance this year. Sure, outside of Fulmer, Mahle and Lopez will be back next year but Mahle is a question mark health wise and Lopez has looked nothing like he did when he was with Baltimore. I would say the FO got fleeced again.
  11. This is very true and part of an underlying issue that so many who see Buck as making good on his contract ignore. Buck wasn't signed to be the DH. His games are suppose to be in CF where his value is met with outstanding defense on top of anything he provides at the plate. Playing 57 games in CF doesn't come close to half a season, which we have all become accustomed to seeing from Buck. It's truely amazing and probably more like highway robbery, that a part-time player that cannot be counted on to play his position even half of the time can get a contract of $100M dollars.
  12. As with any season there are some bright spots to consider. Ryan looks like he will become a main piece to the rotation for many years to come. Duran likewise in the bullpen, (although I'd love to see him get a chance to be a starter again). Due to the injuries 2 more players got to prove themselves as legit roster pieces, MIranda and Gordon. Now is the time to see who else can join them.
  13. Still think the main reason for failure is Rocco and the "Plan". Resting players when they were healthy to keep them healthy probably cost a few wins in the process by not having the best players on the field every chance possible. It surely didn't help keep them healthy anyway. Sticking with pitchers like Pagan and Duffey too long was another managing mistake by Rocco. Not using starters effectively and over-working a suspect bullpen, another Rocco mistake. Good Managers use what is given to them efficiently and by not using starters for more than 5 innings on a regular basis when you have a weak bullpen is not smart use of what you have. (Don't tell me it is the FO fault for not providing better pitchers to fit the Managers Plan. The Managers Plan needs to be flexible to fit the players). Why use a veteran pitcher like Bundy for only 4 innings against a weak team like the Royals when you know you have a 5 game series starting the next day, in which 2 games will be on 1 day, against a much better team where your bullpen will be needed much more? That move, pulling Bundy early in the final game against KC, was the biggest bonehead move he possibly made all year. It's just idiotic to wear out your bullpen the game before your most important series of the year.
  14. And Kepler has been injured for how long? Why does it take this organization sooooooooooooo long to make moves that need to be done immediately? (Answer: Poor Management).
  15. Bundy has gone more than 4 innings and 60 pitches multiple times this year and in his career. Giving up 2 runs on 4 hits wasn't by any means poor pitching or reason enough to pull him in favor of using up your bullpen arms right before an important 5 game series against the division leader who you are trying to catch. Especially knowing you have a rehabbing pitcher and 2 rookies as your starters in the next 3 games. The only way the FO gets the blame for the decision to remove Bundy at 4 innings and 60 pitches is if the Manager is in direct talk with the FO at that time.
  16. And the reason for Bundy only going 4 innings and 60 pitches the night before is? (Answer: Poor management).
  17. Lots of anti-Rocco comments again. Couldn't agree more. Problem is he IS the guy brought in by Falvine and he IS doing what they want. If you want Rocco gone, Pohlad will probably have to dispose of the Falvine regime completely. I commented in Thursdays game thread that Rocco should have used Bundy for more than 4 innings. At 60 pitches there was no reason to pull him and use extra arms in your bullpen. I knew Ober would be on a short leash regardless of how well he would pitch due to the fact that it was his first game back. Yep, exactly what happened. Then to make matters worse he used the same pitchers Friday night as he used Thursday, even pushing Thielbar to 3 days in a row. I said he was going to over-work his bullpen to the point they would implode in the Cleveland series. It took all of 1 game to get there. Now he's got Varland and Winder for two games today with his best arms in the bullpen not available unless he over-works them again. I seriously doubt either starter today will make it past 5 innings unless the Twins are ahead by 5 or 6 runs which is highly unlikely. Watch the two managers work in this Cleveland series. One makes blunders one right after another and the other one makes good decisions that help his team win. Big difference between the two. And to all of you Rocco lovers out there, remember if he is the one who gets the credit when the team plays well and wins. he is also the one who should get the blame when the team plays poorly and loses especially when it is due to his poor decisions.
  18. No, they are committed to playing scrubs so when they miss the playoffs they can use the injury issue as an excuse to why they didn't make it. The mistakes by the FO and Manager need to be covered up and over-shadowed so they aren't held accountable.
  19. Some Twins fans watch the same game as Rocco. Not a clue. Letting him go out for the 5th inning and then having a short leash is the correct move, not jumping the gun and pulling him before he even gets a chance to give you another inning. Not out of the realm of possibility that Bundy who was only at 60 pitches couldn't have saved 1 arm in the pen. Rocco has done it all season and now has his bullpen NOT rested for the Cleveland series. Get ready for Pagan, Moran, Sanchez and Lopez.
  20. The usage of pitchers continues to be a head scratcher. After 2 successful outings of 7 innings pitched by Ryan and Gray I thought Rocco had made an adjustment, but pulling Bundy after 4 shows he just can't commit to using a starter effectively. yes the bullpen did their job and they won the game but at what cost for the Cleveland series. If the bullpen gets overused the next 4 or 5 games and implodes due to it, Rocco only has himself to blame.
  21. Even if they don't make the playoffs I don't see the FO making any big changes to the coaching staff so unfortunately he will be back for 2023. The FO and Rocco are on the same page as to how things are done so it will take a disaster for them to replace him. Besides the INJURY excuse is alive and well and for that reason alone they will give 2023 to Rocco. The only other scenario would be is if JPohland decides he doesn't like what he is seeing and cleans house. It is interesting how much Toronto improved when they fired their Manager, Montovo who had them playing .500 ball and the new Manager Schneider has them at .630 and closing in on the Yankees.
  22. If Rocco makes the right moves, isn't that is his job? Obviously the victories were from the "right moves". I said "most, not all" mistakes cost this team wins. To flip the script and say good management decisions led to victories is what is suppose to happen, every game. That is the sole purpose of the manager and should be expected of him, again ... every game. I'm not going to give him extra credit for doing his job "some of the time". I will give him "extra" credit when he starts doing it "ALL of the time". I don't expect every move to be the right move. No one ever knows until after the fact if it was the right move or not. But when he makes the same mistakes over and over which lead to the same dreadful outcomes then he needs to be held accountable. Remember, this is the guy who said he couldn't figure out how to give Correa and Buxton a day off without them missing the same game if their scheduled off day fell on the same day. Any 12 year old knows enough to push the day of rest for 1 of them either back or forward 1 day. And kudos to the FO for getting Jhoan Duran. Thanks for doing your job. It is... what is expected of them, so we should be grateful. They have produced 1 pitcher that is of Ace quality in 1 season since they arrived and he is relegated to the bullpen where he exceeded expectations and will now remain for the rest of his career since they will never give him a chance to be the Ace starter that they so desperately need.
  23. I think one thing that has to be mentioned is the fact that, despite all of the injuries that have contributed to the losses this team has endured this year, the team still could have won more games with proper play and management. I know the data isn't anywhere to be found because it just isn't there, but if most, not saying all, the misplays and poor management decisions were removed how many more wins would this club have with all the injuries they incurred? I'd be willing to say at least 5 and maybe as much as 10. And they are how many games out of 1st place?
  24. Tell us who we should be excited about for the future of the Twins outside of Arraez, Miranda, Duran and possibly Gordon? Everyone else has issues that are concerning. Can some of them over-come those issues? Absolutely, but to count on it is a huge mistake. This Franchise needs to re-evaluate its conditioning program, its teaching of fundamentals, how the team is managed on a game by game basis, and how it evaluates players they are trying to acquire in trades. All 4 need major upgrades and if the current regime isn't capable of addressing these 4 things that are the core of the current teams problems then they are incompetant and should be replace immediately. The injury excuse only goes so far when you acquire and resign injury prone players, don't play sound fundamental baseball, and manage all of the games the exact same way regardless of the situation.
  25. The disappointing part of this season beyond the failure to take control of the division albeit injuries and or poor managing is that they traded away some really good players at the deadline for what? The crap they have now. This FO needs to go along with the entire coaching staff and half the players. Just looking at who they acquired this year alone was a bust. Urshela, G.Sanchez, Archer, Bundy, Paddock, Pagan, Cotton, Fulmer, Lopez, Mahle, A.Sanchez, Leon, B.Hamilton. Not a difference maker in the bunch with Correa being the only new solid player who is really more expensive than what he is worth. The injuries of Maeda, Alcala, Coulombe, Stashak, Ober, Larnach, Kirilloff, Jeffers, Buxton, Polanco made them non factors for parts, if not all of the season. That left Ryan, Gray, Arraez, Miranda, Gordon, Duran, Jax, Thielbar as the only guys you could count on and none of them are stars that can carry the team for any significant length of time. This team needs lots of help and changing personnel from top to bottom is the only way they will ever become a serious "Contender" if they ever reach the playoffs again.
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