Matthew Lenz

Just out of curiosity, where do you get the $130-$140 numbers from? There is no salary cap, so I'm wondering why the Twins would be limited to $140 million? I personally think there will be a combination of options 1 and 2. As with most others, I would love to see them lock up the young talent. To me that's a priority over signing Dozier.

Fun read! I would tend to agree with John, but I also think Platoon brings up a good point. I’d take a good but maybe not dominant pitching staff over an Ace and a not so good pitching staff any day.

The only way I sign Dozier is if it's a 3 year deal or less. This probably won't happen as everyone fights for a long contract, but I think he has another solid 3 years in the tank. It will be interesting to see what next years off season looks like. Are teams going to make guys wait to sign so they don't have to pay the draft pick compensation? I know Ian Desmond is less of a talent than Dozier is, but this is what teams did with him a couple years ago.

I’d LOVE to see Mauer in the lead off spot and Dozier a guy or two behind him. That said, I don’t think Molitor will do that. I think you’re right about the turnover in the lefty lineup. We have a lot of holes against lefties, which is the only reason I can find that would go against the LoMo signing. Good write up!

I hear what you're saying, but I think this is easy. Vargas is out. I see others thinking Vargas could be traded, but he has no trade value, IMO. This was a heck of a steal for the Twins. Even if he only hits 20 bombs. At $6.5 million you can't go wrong with that as a platoon option.

This is exactly what it's about. Although there is some middle ground here. I think what happens it people always remember guys like Strasburg, Harper, and Trout who flew the minors and immediately became superstars. This isn't unique to Twins fans, but when a player struggles we automatically assume he's a bust or he was rushed. We are very quick to judge players on small sample sizes. Very very few prospects quickly succeed at the major league level. We need to have some patience.

According to google, one definition of the word paradox is "a situation, person, or thing that combines contradictory features or qualities." Looking back on it, thinking the Twins were going to end up with Yu as their Opening Day starter was quite the paradox. History tells us that the Minnesota Twins and huge contracts are quite the contradiction. Of course there are some who won't ever let us forget the counterexample which would be the Joe Mauer contract that he never lived up to. Outside of that lone example the Twins have rarely given a player whether through an extension or through free agency their big payday. I'm writing this to deliver one message: It's okay for you to feel frustrated, disappointed, let down, [enter whatever adjective you want] by the Twins not landing Darvish. It's okay. It really is. Furthermore, it's okay to feel that way and still be a diehard Twins fan. You're not a bad person or a bad fan for having this opinion. Contrary to what others say, it is completely fair and logical for this "narrative" to exist and for fans to share this opinion. At the end of the day, we are all allowed to have our own opinions. This is America after all! Here's my opinion on the "narrative", which you may have seen stated in the comments of a different article. I will say that I agree that there are endless amounts of example of players who get big paydays and then never live up to it. I'm aware of that. But saying that big contracts are "risky" and/or "irresponsible" in Major League Baseball is a complete and utter fallacy in my opinion. Baseball has no salary cap. Missing on a big contract doesn't hinder your ability to hand out another big contract to another star. After all, the Yankees are the "evil empire" for a reason. As of 2015, the Pohlad family was worth $3.8 billion. That's A LOT of money. Furthermore, they bought the Twins for $36 million and the franchise is estimated to be worth $1.025 billion which amounts to a profit of $989 million. As much as people want to talk small markets and television contracts, money is of little concern to the Pohlad family. Of course an argument to the second point is that the only way you are worth that much money is by being financially responsible. To which I would say that since giving out the Mauer contract the Minnesota Twins increased their net worth from $405 million to the $1.025 billion mentioned above. That is, they got no where near the production they were hoping for and increased the net worth of the franchise $620 million since then. Not to beat a dead horse, but again there seems to be absolutely no "risk" and/or "irresponsibility" in handing out a big contract. It would be very one-sided of me to not address the 100% possible case that maybe we offered Yu a key to the city, a 15 year $1 billion contract, and whatever else he wanted but it all still wasn't enough to lure him to the bold north. If it were the case that he just didn't want to come here, then that would obviously be out of control of the Pohlad family. To which I would say, if not now...when? We have so much potential and talent, some of which isn't even in the big leagues yet, and if that can't draw a superstar looking for a ring then when will we ever be able to appeal to a superstar? Not only is our organization at a great spot in potential and talent, but we were just able to show off how great Minnesota can be with the international coverage of the Super Bowl. We were able to show people that, despite the frigid temperatures, Minnesota is a great place to live with great people. So the thought that our organization being where it is and our city recently being surrounded by some major hype can't appeal to a superstar is a saddening reality. Maybe the reality is that Minnesota won't ever appeal to non-homegrown superstars no matter how much money the Pohlads offer them. So yes, I am frustrated. I'm disappointed. I'm sad. I'm [enter whatever adjective you want] that the Twins weren't able to sign yet another superstar to bring them to the next level. But I love the Twins and will continue to cheer them on. I will continue to follow them once this crop of talent is gone. I'm not only here when things are good, but I'm also here when things are bad. I may not be happy with every decision made, but that doesn't make me (or you) a bad fan. That's just my opinion, at least. What do you think?

His goal is to have a museum someday that is separate from Target Field. When they were in the Dome, Pohlad said "someday we are going to give you a space where you can display this stuff". Target Field was specifically designed with space for the memorabilia, but yes it would be nearly impossible to display all of it. He wouldn't give me a solid number, but they have thousands and thousands of artifacts. Similar to Cooperstown. I'm sure they have tons of artifacts that are sitting in a storage closet(s) somewhere as it would be impossible to display everything. Hopefully there will be a day where the Twins have a "Cooperstown" of their own where they can display even more memorabilia.

I want to say he graduated in 1962, so he would have been a junior on that team.

[As seen on Zone Coverage] Recently, I had the chance to talk with Clyde “the Guide” Doepner, the Curator for the Minnesota Twins. Don’t know what a “curator” is? Think about getting paid to collect, display, and maintain Twins memorabilia for thousands of fans to enjoy at Target Field. Yes. Somebody gets paid to do that! Per his request, Clyde asked that I make this as little about him as possible and as much about the Twins as possible, but I want to provide you with a little background before jumping into our conversation. “I was brought up to say thank you.” In August of 1966 he was hired on as a first year teacher and varsity head baseball coach. In the spring of that same year, Cal Griffith (Twins’ owner) had sent out free season tickets to all head varsity baseball coaches, but the previous coach didn’t get them before he left and so they sat unused all summer. When he saw these in his mailbox, he decided to go down to the Met, find Cal’s office, and thank him for the tickets. Back in 1966 it was that easy. When he went to thank him, Cal noted that he was the only person to thank him for the tickets and brought him “down the hall, to the left, to the right, and to the Griffith seats”, as Clyde would say. Cal invited him to sit in those seats anytime he came to a game rather than “sitting out in the thankless seats with those ‘hecklin’ son of a guns’”, and a relationship was forged. It got the point that Clyde could sit anywhere he wanted when he came to a game and he became good friends with the Griffith family. “We’re not paying those son of a guns…” When the Twins made the move from the Met to the Dome, the sports commission was going to start charging the Griffith family for storage space. As Clyde tells it, “[Cal] being too frugal, too cheap to do that said ‘we’re not paying those son of a guns’ and he told his brothers ‘throw everything’. [Clyde] went out [to the dumpster] and collected about 3,000 items, and so Clyde “the Collector” was born and he debuted all the memorabilia at the first Twins fest in 1988. No matter how he got any artifact he considers all artifacts as “a part of the Twins”. If you’re interested to see a lot of the memorabilia then I suggest you check out this book. Being part of the Twins organization since 1966, Clyde is an endless book of stories which will be the focus of the rest of the article. “No Clyde, I’m all done, this is it.” At the end of the 2015 season before he made a public announcement Torii Hunter gave Clyde his glove. Clyde’s response was “I don’t want it, because you’re coming back next year” knowing that he only signed a one-year deal, but that the Twins would likely offer him another contract. Torii said, “No Clyde, I’m all done, this is it.” So a few days later, Hunter made it official and announced that he was retiring from Major League Baseball. “I was thinking of my Mom.” When Jim Thome hit his 600th home run at Comerica Park, Clyde made sure to get all the bases. He gave third base to Thome, second base to the Twins Community Fund for auction, and first base was kept for the Twins. Why did Thome get third base? Clyde thought “well, once you touched third base you couldn’t screw up the home run”. And why did the Twins get first? When Thome was asked what he was thinking about when he knew it was done and running down to first he said “My mother, she had died the year before”. This struck a chord with Clyde as he also recently lost his mother. On the base he signed: “On the way to this base, I was thinking of my Mom”. “Only Halsey could turn a sport coat into a Blazer” Halsey Hall was a sports reporter for the Twin Cities and announcer for the Twins for many years. He was actually the first broadcaster to coin the phrase “Holy Cow”, although most fans credit Harry Caray. He was described as having a “grizzly voice, because he smoked two cigars during every game”. Hall of Famer, Herb Carneal would say that “Halsey liked good cigars, but unfortunately that’s not the kind he smoked”. So the story goes that during one game, Halsey’s cigar ash fell into a wastebasket full of paper and started it on fire. He then blurted out, over the air, “oh my god, I’m on fire!” The fire ended up burning his hand, sport coat, and pants and there was a delay in the game until the fire was put out. Former Twins Catcher Jerry Zimmerman said “Only Halsey could turn a sport coat into a blazer”. Halsey was gifted a big red ashtray, and you bet that same ashtray is on display in the Target Field press box. “Isn’t that the way it goes?” Tom Kelly has each ball from the last out of the game that clinched the division in 1987, the game that clinched the pennant in 1987, and the game that clinched the world series in 1987. As Clyde puts it, “When Kent Hrbek heard about that he said ‘isn’t that the way it goes, Clyde? I caught all three of them, Tom took them, and you give him credit’”. Other tidbits: Clyde is one of the only curators in MLB. Recently, the Atlanta Braves added a curator when they built their new stadium. Target field has 38 display cases that he is responsible for filling and maintaining the memorabilia. He does all of this himself. Jim Thome kept a champagne cork and lighter in his locker. Before eye black was a thing, players would burn part of the cork and put it under their eyes. He was good friends with Harmon Killebrew. In fact, he was in charge of his appraising six to seven thousand items for his estate. Tom Kelley donated his entire collection to the Twins. Last but most importantly, Clyde wanted to thank the Twins organization. He would say that “the ‘Twins way’ isn’t just what happens on the field, but what happens in the clubhouse and what goes on in the community”. Clyde’s parting words to the reader would be “you should always say thank you. Not for some ulterior motive, but because it’s the right thing to do”. After all, if he hadn’t said thank you then many of the artifacts we have come to love around Target Field might be in a dumpster somewhere. This guy was has an endless amount of stories. If it is at all possible, he would be a great "get" for an upcoming Twins Daily event. Give him the mic and let him talk for as long as he wants.

Situational hitting is so important in baseball. In general, seeing the Twins chase less pitches is a good thing. But I'd like to see the same stat broken down by inning, pitch count, and with runners on a particular base. These different scenarios should greatly affect how a batter approaches the plate. I agree with this as well. O-swing% is interesting to look at but, like all stats, we need more to tell the whole story. Good write up!

I did keep going back and forth in the outfield about bending the rules a bit, but also didn't want to contradict myself. That said, I think you are underrating Mack or overrating Jones. The most difficult part of this is that stats don't tell the whole story, but that's all I had to go on. I was born in '88 so don't really know the true impact of most of these players other than analyzing their stats. I will agree that I think I didn't give Gaetti enough credit, but I'd still rather have Koskie. It would be interesting to construct this lineup with less strict rules...that I made for myself There were a few players that had a good amount of playing time at different positions, but I was trying to stick with where they played throughout their career. Thanks for the discussion all!

There's already been talk at the site this morning about some of the greatest Minnesota Twins teams there ever were. Well, I present you with the best Twins team that there ever wasn't. This is a full 25-man roster filled with the greatest players in team history. From the Met to the Dome to Target Field, every era is represented.Interestingly enough, after I compiled my list Seth Stohs wrote about the "Top 15 Minnesota Twins Players". You'll see a lot of overlap here, but I put it in the form of a 25-man roster. Here is how I constructed the 25-man team. The roster had to be realistic. This specifically pertains to the bench and bullpen.The player had to spend over half their career with the Twins,The player had to play for the Twins for at least 5 years,The player had to play for the Twins between 1961 - current.The player had to play at that particular position for a majority of his career. The exception to this rule is the DH.Hitters Catcher - Joe Mauer Not a lot to say here. By far, Joe Mauer is the best offensive and defensive catcher in franchise history. He will go down as one of the best catcher to ever play the game, and arguably the best hitting catcher to ever play. Don't let the contract and the latter part of his career overshadow his impact on the field when he was at his best. First Base - Kent Hrbek When choosing between Hrbek and Killebrew I had to consider the defensive numbers. Hrbek was not a great defender himself but he was much better than Killebrew, so he gets slotted here. Behind Killebrew, he and Justin Morneau were the two players to consider here and Hrbek was an easy choice over Morneau. I mean who can pull a guy off first better than Herbie? Second Base - Rod Carew I wasn't around to watch Carew play but his number is retired for a reason. With the Twins he played mostly 2B, but later in his career he became a full time 1B for the Angels. Other than Knoblauch and Dozier, there really aren't any other options here. As much as he is known for his offense, he was an okay defender as well. Third Base - Corey Koskie This was a toss-up between Koskie and Gary Gaetti. From my perspective, Koskie was the better overall player and thus garnered the starting job. The former Canadian hockey goalie was a superb defender and also a good guy to have in the middle of a line up. It's too bad concussions limited his career as he could have been a solid player for a long time. Shortstop - Roy Smalley In the entire history of the Twins franchise, there are only three guys to even consider for this spot. Smalley, Zoilo Versalles and Greg Gagne. Smalley wins the job and it's not even close. The other two were better defenders but were non-factors at the plate. I'm the kind of guy who prefers a player who can contribute to both aspects of the game rather than one aspect really well. Left Field - Shane Mack Behind even shortstop, this is probably the weakest position in franchise history. Bob Allison would have been the shoo-in here but he spent a majority of his career in right field. Mack was the de facto left fielder. Hey, at least he brings some championship pedigree to the team. Center Field - Kirby Puckett Was there ever a doubt? Torii was great, but Kirby was greater. I was a little too young to watch much of his career before his unfortunate early retirement, but he may be the most popular and adored Twin of all time. I've never heard it live, but I can still hear Bob Casey announcing Kirby's name in the Dome. Right Field - Tony Oliva This one was easy. Obviously, Oliva was one of the best Twins of all time, as his number is retired. Bob Allison was the only other true contender at this spot. Oliva is one of only a few Twins to finish his career with a batting average above .300, was the Rookie of the Year in 1964 and finished second in MVP voting twice ('65 & '70). DH - Harmon Killebrew This is the perfect spot for him. He wasn't a good defender at all and he is one of the best hitters of all time. He is the best Twins hitter, probably even player, in franchise history. Pitching Staff I used innings pitched to determine if the player spent more than half his career as a Twin. Ace - Johan Santana This was a tough call. Arguably, he was the most dominant pitcher in Twins history but that was only for a stretch of five or so years. The two behind him weren't so much dominant, but were able to maintain consistently solid production over a longer period of time. Nonetheless, Johan is the ace. Over the five or so years he was the best pitcher in baseball winning two Cy Young Awards ('04 and '06) while garnering some MVP votes in those seasons as well. If I needed to win one game, I'd choose Johan in his prime. Starting Pitcher No. 2 - Bert Blyleven Excluding Steve Carlton, who didn't qualify for my list anyway, Bert is the only Twins pitcher to be elected to Cooperstown who also qualified for this list. When choosing between him and Jim Kaat that HoF honor was what gave Blyleven the edge. Bert spent just over half (51.6% IP) as a Minnesota Twin. In all, he pitched for 22 big league seasons. Never truly dominant but almost always a reliable pitcher. Starting Pitcher No. 3 - Jim Kaat If Bert is in the Hall of Fame, then Kaat needs to be. Their statistics are practically the same, although Kaat won only one World Series back in '82 with the Cardinals and he wasn't much of a contributor for them. That said, he holds the major league record for winning 16 consecutive Gold Gloves. Most pitchers' careers don't last 16 years. Starting Pitcher No. 4 - Camilo Pascual Camilo is another guy who wasn't too dominant, but was able to consistently produce over a long career. He was the franchise's first "ace" and deserves to be in the rotation. To be fair, the candidates drop off pretty quick after the top 3 or 4. Starting Pitcher No. 5 - Frank Viola Viola was key to the 1987 World Series championship (he was the MVP) and followed that up by winning the Cy Young in 1988. If it wasn't for being traded, he probably would have been slotted as the No. 4, but it hurt his Twins resume a little bit that he wasn't here longer. That said, we did end up getting a key piece back who will show up later in this list. Long Relief - Jim Perry Admittedly, I just took the Twins starting pitcher who just missed the cut and put him here. Honestly, I think Pascual, Viola and Perry could all be put in whatever order you wanted. He fits the description of most Twins pitchers, which is not dominant but consistently solid. The two best years of his career were in '69 and '70 where he finished third and first in Cy Young voting, respectively. Middle Relief No. 1 - Tom Hall Hall spent the Twins portion of his career bouncing back and forth between the bullpen and the rotation. He had a very nondescript career, never garnering an award vote of any kind and never making an All-Star Game. That said, as a reliever Hall could give you multiple innings and averaged over a strikeout per inning. Middle Relief No. 2 - LaTroy Hawkins If you can last as long as LaTroy did in the era that he did it, then you are one of the best to do it. He pitched for 21 seasons in the big leagues and was solid all the way through his retirement season in 2015 with the Blue Jays. Hawkins was converted to a relief pitcher after five largely unsuccessful seasons as a starter. As with Hall, he never garnered an award vote of any kind and never made an ASG. Set up No. 1 - Glen Perkins The Twins second-best closer of all time would be my first choice as the set up guy. Perkins was unsuccessful as a starter, but found his niche as a fire-throwing closer. It's unfortunate that injuries derailed the last few years of his career and forced him into an early retirement. I have to imagine the highlight of his career (for himself and Twins fans) was seeing him close out the 2014 All-Star Game in his home stadium. Set up No. 2 - Rick Aguilera Aguilera came to the Twins in the trade that sent Viola to the Mets in '89. Although he made 11 starts that year, he made 460 relief appearances as a member of the Twins. He did well with the Twins as he made the ASG three times, garnered MVP votes in 1991, and was a key contributor to the '91 World Series title. Set up No. 3 - Juan Rincon Rincon had a pretty good stretch from 2004 - 2006. When in a crunch, the Twins could relied upon Rincon to get them out of a jam. Obviously, a key skill to have as a set up guy. Closer - Joe Nathan Not much to say here. He is the best Twins closer of all time, finished his career with the most saves in Twins history and was one of the best in the game when he was in his prime. In '04 and '06 he was actually in the Cy Young and MVP talks a little bit. In all of baseball, there aren't many closers that were as good as he was. Honorable Mentions (Bench) OF/1B - Bob Allison He primarily played right field, which disqualified him from the left field spot. I feel like he is one of the overlooked Twins greats. No, his number isn't retired, but he spent all of his 13 years in a Senators/Twins uniform and hit 256 home runs in that time. If it wasn't for injuries I think his career could have been longer and he could have passed the 300 HR plateau. C - Early Battey Any realistic roster needs a back-up catcher. Battey is the guy. While with the Senators/Twins franchise he won three Gold Gloves, made four ASGs and finished top 10 in MVP voting three times. 2B/SS - Chuck Knoblauch A key cog to the 1991 World Series and a good player for the Twins over 7 years. He'll be a good guy to have off the bench when we need speed on the base paths. Utility - Gary Gaetti He was Nick Punto before Nick Punto was Nick Punto. The only two positions he didn't play throughout his career were CF and C. He wasn't necessarily a great player, but was solid for the Twins. He was another important piece in the '87 World Series team. In my eyes, my biggest "snub" was Torii Hunter. When constructing a realistic 25-man roster I needed to have a back-up catcher which is where Battey made the list over Hunter. Another area I struggled with was the bullpen construction. After Perry, Nathan, Aguilera, and Perkins the pickins' got slim and I ended up having to consider individual seasons over career stats. Carl Willis was a name that almost made the cut. So what do you think? Who did I miss? Let the debate begin! Click here to view the article

"Anything approaching those figures would be unrealistic, not to mention irresponsible, for Minnesota to offer." I know why we think it's unrealistic. That would more than triple our top FA contract in franchise history. I don't know why it's irresponsible though. The Pohlad's have the money and there is no cap so it wouldn't limit us in the future. I'll use the example I used in your article "open windows" from last week. The Pujols contract for the Angels looks bad. In fact, pretty much every big contract is not worth it from a production/dollar stand point. That said, I am going to assume that Art Moreno/LAA hasn't lost any value. Quite the contrary, I would assume that the value of the organization has still increased in that time. So I will pose my question again. When you're worth $3.8 billion and have no cap limit...why is irresponsible? Where is the risk?

When Tom approached me about the Big Blog Blowout I was struggling to come up with something to write about. When he gave me the list of topics people had "claimed" it seemed to have a historical theme. So I bring to you the best Twins team that ever was(n't). What I have attempted to do is create the best 25 man roster regardless of era. Interestingly enough, after I compiled my list Seth Stohs wrote about the "Top 15 Minnesota Twins Players". You'll see a lot of overlap here, but I put it in the form of a 25-man roster. Here is how I constructed the 25-man team. the roster had to be realistic. This specifically pertains to the bench and bullpen. the player had to spend over half their career with the Twins, the player had to play for the Twins for at least 5 years, the player had to play for the Twins between 1961 - current, and the player had to play at that particular position for a majority of their career. The exception to this rule is the DH. Hitters Catcher - Joe Mauer Not a lot to say here. By far, Joe Mauer is the best offensive, defensive, and overall catcher in franchise history. He will go down as one of the best catcher to ever play the game, and arguably the best hitting catcher to ever play. Don't let the contract and the latter part of his career overshadow his impact on the field when he was at his best. 1st Base - Kent Hrbek When choosing between Hrbek and Killebrew I had to consider the defensive numbers. Hrbek was not a great defender himself but he was much better than Killebrew, so he gets slotted here. Behind Killebrew, him and Justin Morneau were the two players to consider here and Hrbek was an easy choice over Morneau. I mean who can pull a guy off 1st better than Herbie? 2nd Base - Rod Carew I wasn't around to watch Carew play but his number is retired for a reason. With the Twins he played most 2B, but later in his career he became a full time 1B for the Angels. Other than Knoblauch and Dozier, there really aren't any other options here. As much as he is known for his offense, he was an okay defender as well. 3rd Base - Corey Koskie This was a toss-up between him and Gaetti. From my perspective, Koskie was the better overall player and thus garnered the starting job. The former Canadian hockey goalie was a superb defender and also a good guy to have in the middle of a line up. It's too bad concussions limited his career as he could have been a solid player for a long time. Shortstop - Roy Smalley In the entire history of the Twins franchise, there are only three guys to even consider for this spot. Smalley, Zoilo Versalles, and Greg Gagne. Smalley wins the job and it's not even close. The other two were better defenders but were non-factors at the plate. I'm the kind of guy who would prefer a player who can contribute in both aspects of the game rather than one aspect really well. Left Field - Shane Mack Even behind shortstop, this is probably the weakest position in franchise history. Bob Allison would have been the shoo-in here but he spent a majority of his career in right field. Mack was the de-facto left fielder. Hey, at least he brings some championship pedigree to the team. Center Field - Kirby Puckett Was there ever a doubt? Torii was great, but Kirby was greater. I was a little too young to watch much of his career before his unfortunate early retirement, but he may be the most popular and adored Twin of all time. I've never heard it live, but I can still hear Bob Casey announcing Kirby's name in the Dome. Right Field - Tony Oliva This one was easy. Obviously, Oliva was one of the best Twins of all time as his number is retired. Bob Allison was the only true contender at this spot outside of Oliva. Oliva is one of only a few Twins to finish their career above .300, was the Rookie of the Year in 1964, and finished second in MVP voting twice in his career ('65 & '70). DH - Harmon Killebrew This is the perfect spot for him. He wasn't a good defender at all and he is one of the best hitters of all time. He is the best Twins hitter, probably even player, in the franchises history. Pitching Staff - I used innings pitched to determine if the player spent more than half his career as a Twin. Ace - Johan Santana This was a tough call. Arguably, he was the most dominant pitcher in Twins history but that was only for a stretch of five or so years. The two behind him weren't so much dominant, but were able to maintain consistently solid production over a longer period of time. Nonetheless, on my list Johan is the ace. Over the 5 or so years he was the best pitcher in baseball winning two Cy Youngs ('04 and '06) while garnering some MVP votes in those seasons as well. If I needed to win one game, I'd choose Johan in his prime. Starting Pitcher No. 2 - Bert Blyleven Excluding Steve Carlton, who didn't qualify for my list anyway, Bert is the only Twins pitcher to be elected to Cooperstown. When choosing between him and Jim Kaat that was what gave him the edge. Bert spent just over half (51.6% IP) as a Minnesota Twin. In all, he pitched for 22 big league seasons. Never truly dominant but almost always a reliable pitcher. Starting Pitcher No. 3 - Jim Kaat If Bert is in the Hall of Fame, then Kaat needs to be. All of their statistics are practically the same, although Kaat only won one World Series back in '82 with the Cardinals and he wasn't much of a contributor for them. That said, he holds the major league record for winning 16 consecutive gold gloves. Most pitchers careers don't even last 16 years. Starting Pitcher No. 4 - Camilo Pascual Camilo is another guy who wasn't too dominant, but was able to consistently produce over a long career. He was the franchises first "ace" and deserves to be in the rotation. To be fair, the candidates drop off pretty quick after the top 3 or 4. Starting Pitcher No. 5 - Frank Viola Viola was key to the 1987 World Series championship (he was the MVP) and followed that up by winning the Cy Young in 1988. If it wasn't for being traded he probably would have been slotted as the No. 4, but it hurt is Twins resume a little bit that he wasn't here longer. That said, we did end up getting a key piece back that will show up later in this list. Long Relief - Jim Perry Admittedly, I just took the Twins starting pitcher who just missed the cut and put him here. Honestly, I think Pascual, Viola, and Perry could all be put in whatever order you wanted. He fits the description of most Twins pitchers (sans Johan), which is not dominant but consistently solid. The two best years of his career were in '69 and '70 where he finished 3rd and 1st in Cy Young voting, respectively. Middle Relief No. 1 - Tom Hall Hall spent the Twins portion of his career bouncing back and forth between the bullpen and the starting rotation. He had a very non-descript career never garnering an award vote of any kind and never making an all-star game. That said, as a reliever Hall could give you multiple innings and averaged over a strikeout per inning. Middle Relief No. 2 - LaTroy Hawkins If you can last as long as LaTroy did in the era that he did it, then you are one of the best to do it. He pitched for 21 seasons in the big leagues and was solid all the way through his retirement season in 2015 with the Blue Jays. Hawkins was converted to a relief pitcher after 5 largely unsuccessful seasons as a starter. As with Hall, he never garnered an award vote of any kind and never made an all star game. Set up No. 1 - Glen Perkins The Twins second best closer of all time would be my first choice as the set up guy. Perkins was unsuccessful as a starter, but found his niche as a fire throwing closer with the team. It's unfortunate that injuries derailed the last few years of his career and forced him into an early retirement. I have to imagine the highlight of his career (for himself and Twins fans) was seeing him close out the 2014 All Star Game in his home stadium. Set up No. 2 - Rick Aguilera Aguilera came to the Twins in the trade that sent Viola to the Mets in '89. Although he made 11 starts that year, he made 460 relief appearances as a member of the Twins. He did well with the Twins as he made the all star game three times, garnered MVP votes in 1991, and was a key contributor to both World Series titles. Set up No. 3 - Juan Rincon Rincon had a pretty good stretch from 2004 - 2006. When the Twins in a crunch he could be relied upon to get out of the jam. Obviously a key skill to have as a set up guy. Closer - Joe Nathan Not much to say here. He is the best Twins closer of all time. Finished his career with the most Saves in Twins History and was one of the best in the game when he was in his prime. In 04 and 06 he was actually in the Cy Young and MVP talks a little bit. In all of baseball, there aren't many that were as good as him. Honorable Mentions (Bench) OF/1B - Bob Allison He technically did play A LOT of left field, but he played right field more which disqualified him from the left field spot. I feel like he is one of the overlooked Twins greats. No his number isn't retired, but he spent all of his 13 years in a Senators/Twins uniform and hit 256 homeruns in that time. If it wasn't for injuries I think his career could have been longer and he could have passed the 300 HR plateau. C - Early Battey Any realistic roster needs a back up catcher. Battey is the guy. While with the Senators/Twins franchise he won 3 gold gloves, made 4 all star games, and finished top 10 in MVP voting three times. 2B/SS - Chuck Knoblauch A key cog to the 1991 World Series and a good player for the Twins over 7 years. He'll be a good guy to have off the bench when we need speed on the base paths. Utility - Gary Gaetti He was Nick Punto before Nick Punto was Nick Punto. The only two positions he didn't play throughout his career were CF and C. He wasn't necessarily a great player, but was solid for the Twins. He was another important piece in the '87 World Series team. In my eyes, my biggest "snub" was Torii Hunter. When constructing a realistic 25-man roster I needed to have a back-up catcher which is where Battey made the list over Hunter. Another area I struggled with was the bullpen construction. After Perry, Nathan, Aguilera, and Perkins the pickins' got slim and I ended up having to consider individual seasons over career stats. Carl Willis was a name that almost made the cut, but Rincon and Hawkins had individual seasons that were better than any of Willis'. So what do you think? Who did I miss? Let the debate begin!

Agreed. That still doesn't better prepare us for the postseason where winning really matters.

This is a strange comment...

To me, it goes without saying that summers are more fun when they win. Obviously, watching a winning team (in any sport you enjoy) is fun. Heck, I love baseball. I think it's fun watching baseball. Period. But, I will be expecting the Twins to win 90+ games this year if not even 95+. Now if they go and win 100+ I will probably be more optimistic about their chances in the postseason. But when other teams are putting up the same or more wins in a season and playing better competition...then how was our schedule "advantageous"?

"This puts the Twins in a seriously advantageous position" This "advantageous position" made the Twins looks like a great team when they really weren't in the 2000's. I'm sorry but doing well in the regular season and getting swept in the playoffs doesn't do anything for me. It's easy to have a good record when 3/5 of your division is not interested in competing. That is 35% of your schedule is against teams that are battling for the rights to draft Nick Lodolo or Bobby Witt, Jr instead of the rights to hoist the World Series trophy. Don't get me wrong...I am excited to see what the Twins are going to do with the talent they have over the next few years. This squad definitely has more raw talent and a higher ceiling than most of the 2000 teams did. Nonetheless, I won't be impressed until I see some postseason success.

I know (think) you're being sarcastic. But honestly, this is a reason reason I want him here. He doesn't care about the money. Just cares about hanging banners, baby!

I get what you're saying, but I think the same revelations can be made going the percentage route. In other words, Dozier strikes out quite a bit more than Mauer. That would be interesting. One would assume that there is a negative correlation there, since when you strikeout you don't get on base but I am sure there are some outliers to this rule. I bet Sano would be one of them. A lot of Twins fans were pleasantly surprised about Polanco performance last year. He would be a good sleeper/breakout candidate this year. But him at first base?

You pose a very interesting question here and lots of good information. I do feel that hitters are changing their approach at the plate which is resulting in more strikeouts which would mean it's easier on the pitchers now. I think your last two paragraphs kind of prove this point.

Most of you probably don't know that I am a high school math teacher and junior varsity baseball coach. Recently, a student of mine asked for me to write about the record breaking home run and strikeout rates from the 2017 season. I'm going to dive into those numbers for you today, but then also look at how these numbers are reflected in the projected 2018 opening day lineup for our beloved Twins. League Overview To get a good set of data, I took the K% (K/PA) and HR% (HR/PA) for the last twenty-one major league seasons. Below you will find a graphical summary (follow link for a closer look) of my findings: You will notice that although both statistics see an increase over this timeframe, there is a much more significant increase in HR% versus K%. The most notable differences in both stats can be seen in the "statcast era" from 2014-2017 where exit velocity and launch angle data as literally been changing hitters approaches at the dish. Furthermore, it's been well documented that 2017 was a record breaking year for strikeouts and home runs. Twins Lineup Implications The last two seasons have seen the Minnesota Twins hit the 3rd (2017) and 4th (2016) most home runs in franchise history, which includes the 60 years they spent being known as the Washington Senators. Interestingly enough, they finished 2nd (2016) and 3rd (2017) most strikeouts in a single season over that same time. (If you're curious, the 2013 Twins struck out a franchise record 1,430 times but only hit 151 homeruns which is 70 less than their 2017 total. Ouch.) Comparably league wide, their 2016 and 2017 combined totals put them 15th in the league in homeruns and 6th in the league in strikeouts. Below shows where the each Twins player ended up in 2017 when comparing strikeout and homerun percentages: Not surprisingly you will see Miguel Sano lead the team in both categories and Joe Mauer was at the bottom in both categories, among the regulars. In the middle, you see the average for 2017 was a 3.29 percent homerun rate and 21.6 percent strikeout rate. Ideally, we want our Twins to be closer to the Doziers, Rosario, Escobar, and Keplers of our lineup. Guys who finished below the league average in strikeout rate but above in homerun rate. Here are some of my takeaways: Much ado has been made about Rosario’s plate discipline in 2017. Not only did MLB strikeout percentage drop from a career mark of 25.2 percent to 22.2 percent, but he also set a career high in homerun percentage. He will be very valuable to the Twins if 2017 wasn’t a fluke. Admittedly, I am someone who is ready to see Vargas find another employer. So I was a little surprised to see how high his homerun percentage was in 2017. He can become value to the Twins or elsewhere if he can work on his plate discipline. That’s a big if. Jason Castro was an excellent defensive catcher in 2017. He was pretty good behind the plate too. Though he lost some of his power he tied his career low in strikeout percentage and a career high in OBP. I’d love to see his power rebound a little, but most teams will take any productivity they can get out of their catcher. I mentioned this earlier, but I really like where the core of Dozier, Rosario, Escobar, and Kepler fall. I think this is ideal for the middle of the order where these guys hit. Rosario and Escobar had broke out in 2017...is it time for Kepler? This season is huge from the Twins. They have yet to extend any of their young talent and there haven’t been any rumblings about contract talks. Maybe the organization is waiting to see what happens with Yu first or maybe they are waiting to see what 2018 entails. We all know this is a huge year for our young core. We’ll be looking to see if guys like Escobar and Roario are for real, while looking at Kepler and Berrios as possible breakout stars. What do you think about the data? Is it meaningful or are there other numbers we should be looking at here?

I understand Fox Sports North is not as lucrative as Time Warner (LA Dodgers). I understand that adding a big time free agent or making a splash trade from 2012 - 2015 would probably not have done much with the talent, or lack thereof, that Twins had at the time. Honestly, even in 2015 and 2017 I didn't think of them as "contenders". A possible playoff team? Sure. But not true contenders. Where I completely disagree with you is that calling them cheap is lazy. According to Forbes, in July of 2015 The Pohlad Family is worth an estimated 3.8 billion (with a "b"). In the same article they said he bought the Twins for $36 million and they are now worth $670 million, which is a $634 million profit. I'm not saying that they need to get every big free agent, but if they don't get a big free agent it should never be about money. Ever. For example, from all reports I can find Torii wanted to stay a Twin back when he left for the Angels. If he wanted to stay a Twin, then either they didn't make him an offer (sources indicate that is not true) or they lowballed him (which is what most people think). I have closely followed the Twins for the better part of 20 years. I can't think of a time where the Twins were actually tied to a big name FA. To be fair, not all rumors make the news but I have to assume that if they had actually tried to pursue a top FA we would have heard about it. Pursuing big time FA's is a risk that rarely gives the team 100% value, but the fact is that a lot of teams do it and it is necessary at times to become a true contender. If the Twins didn't even pursue the FA...that's cheap IMO. As much as the Pujols contract is terrible for the Angels, I don't think the Moreno family or the Angels organization has become worth less in the last 6 years. So as much as a "risk" these big contracts are...where is the risk in a no salary cap league?