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    Seth Stohs

    With Rochester’s doubleheader, there were five games in the Minnesota Twins farm system on Tuesday. There was the much-anticipated spot start of Chih-Wei Hu with the Red Wings. Chattanooga posted double-digit runs again including big home runs from a couple of prospects. Cedar Rapids had a tough inning. The Twins beat Francisco Liriano which is a good thing.

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    RED WINGS REPORT

    The Rochester Red Wings and the Durham Bulls played a day-night double header in New York on Tuesday because Durham’s field was to be used for the ACC Tournament. It gives the Red Wings an extra home game.

    Rochester 4, Durham 3

    Game 1 - Box Score

    Needing an extra starter for the extra game, the Twins dipped down to High-A Ft. Myers and asked Chi-Wei Hu to make a spot start for Rochester. Hu has been arguably the best starting pitcher in the Twins minor leagues so far this season. He threw very well. He got through the first four innings without allowing a run. In the fifth, he gave up a one-out double that put runners on second and third, but allowed just one run to score. He came back in the sixth inning with a quick, 1-2-3 inning. In his six innings, he gave up one run on just two hits. He walked four and struck out six. It’s interesting that giving up one earned run in six innings increased his overall season ERA from 1.03 to 1.10.

    The Red Wings gave Hu a lead in the second inning when James Beresford singled in the first run of the game. In the fourth inning, Brock Peterson hit his fifth homer, a two-run shot off of former Twins starter Scott Diamond to give the team a 3-0 lead. After Hu gave up the fifth-inning run, the Red Wings got it right back in the bottom of the inning.

    Hu’s day was done after six strong innings. He was at 93 pitches, 55 of which were strikes. Caleb Thielbar threw a scoreless seventh inning, with one walk allowed. Mark Hamburger was given the eighth inning. He gave up four hits, but allowed just one run in the inning. AJ Achter came on for the ninth and despite allowing a solo home run, recorded his fifth save since Michael Tonkin was promoted.

    Peterson’s home run was the big hit of the day. James Beresford went 2-2 with a walk. Danny Ortiz went 2-4.

    Rochester 2, Durham 4

    Game 2 - Box Score

    Alex Meyer started the nightcap in Rochester. He went just 4.2 innings and needed 109 pitches to get there. He gave up four runs on seven hits and three walks. He struck out seven. Lester Oliveros came and on struck out five in two innings. He walked two and gave up a hit, but no runs. Lefty Ryan O’Rourke came on and got four outs, two of them on strikeouts. Logan Darnell struck out two in a scoreless ninth inning.

    The Red Wings managed just six hits in the second game. Eric Farris went 2-4. Josmil Pinto hit his sixth double and drove in a run. Reynaldo Rodriguez fouled a ball off his foot in the first game and left that game. Nate Hanson came in for him in Game 1. He played first base in Game 2 as well and went 1-3 with a walk.

    After the doubleheader split, the Red Wings are now 22-17.

    CHATTANOOGA CHATTER

    Chattanooga 10, Montgomery 3

    Box Score

    The Lookouts got strong starting pitching and a couple of big home runs on their way to another Southern League win.

    Greg Peavey put together his third consecutive strong start. He gave up two runs on seven hits in seven innings. He struck out seven and did not issue a walk. In fact, 72 of his 101 pitches were strikes. He has given up just four earned runs over 19 innings in his last three starts. He is now 4-1 despite a 6.53 ERA. Tim Shibuya came on and gave up a run on two hits over the final two innings.

    The Lookouts got a single run in the first inning to jump out to a quick lead. In the second inning, they scored three more runs. The big blow in that inning was a two-run homer from Stuart Turner. The Biscuits cut the lead to 4-2 in the top of the fourth inning, but in the bottom of the fourth, the Lookouts put the game out of reach. Byron Buxton’s long grand slam gave the Lookouts an 8-1 lead. The Lookouts added two more in the top of the first, the first coming on an RBI single off the bat of Max Kepler.

    Kepler went 2-3 with a walk. Buxton was 2-5. The home run was his fifth of the year, and he is now up to 29 RBI on the season, out of the leadoff position. He also stole his 11th base. Mike Gonzales went 3-4 in the game. Turner’s home run was his second of the year. He drove in three runs in the game.

    MIRACLE MATTERS

    Ft. Myers 1, Bradenton 6

    Box Score

    With Chih-Wei Hu starting for Rochester on Tuesday, Ethan Mildren was plugged back into the rotation. He gave up six runs on ten hits and a walk in just four innings. Brian Gilbert struck out two over the next two innings. Luke Westphal walked two and struck out one in 1.2 scoreless innings. Brandon Peterson struck out in 1.1 innings.

    The Miracle managed just five hits. Logan Wade drove in the lone run.

    KERNELS NUGGETS

    Cedar Rapids 5, Peoria 7

    Box Score

    Through five innings, Kernels starter John Curtiss was pitching well. He had given up two runs on three hits and a walk. His team had given him a three-run lead. Then he gave up a single to start the bottom of the sixth inning. It was followed by a walk and another single to load the bases. Peoria catcher Steve Bean came up and hit a grand slam and suddenly the three-run lead became a one-run deficit. Peoria added one more run and the Kernels were defeated.

    Curtiss’s final line isn’t nice. In six innings, he gave up six runs on six hits and two walks. He struck out four. Yorman Landa came on to pitch the seventh inning. He struck out one in a perfect inning. More important for the hard-throwing right-hander, it was his first game since May 22, 2014. He is returning from shoulder surgery. Mike Theofanopoulos came on and gave up a run in the eighth inning.

    “What did Trey do today” is the likely mantra for Kernels fans this season. Coming into the game, he led the Kernels in batting average, on-base percentage, slugging percentage, hits, doubles, home runs and RBI. Again on Tuesday morning, Trey Vavra led the Kernels offense. He went 2-4 and launched a three-run home run in the third inning which gave the team a 4-2 lead. It was his sixth home run of the season. Pat Kelly had a nice 2-4 day.

    TWINS DAILY PLAYERS OF THE DAY

    Twins Daily Minor League Pitcher of the Day – Greg Peavey, Chattanooga Lookouts

    Twins Daily Minor League Hitter of the Day – Byron Buxton, Chattanooga Lookouts

    WEDNESDAY’S PROBABLE STARTERS

    Durham @ Rochester (6:05 CST) – LHP Jason Wheeler

    Montgomery @ Chattanooga (6:15 CST) – RHP DJ Baxendale

    Bradenton @ Ft. Myers (6:05 CST) – RHP Ryan Eades

    Cedar Rapids @ Peoria (7:00 CST) – LHP Stephen Gonsalves

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    One thing that confuses me - they sent Vargas down to get some work in during the short NL trip and two days off. OK, I can accept that. But he hasn't played in any of the three games so far. I understand not being able to play Sunday, but why wasn't he in the lineup either game yesterday?

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    I wonder... is it time to think of Alex Meyer as the set up man next year and then eventually take over for PERK... great K rate... just can't to be consistent... I do hope he can turn it around and be a starter! 

     

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    Do we have scouting reports on Meyer?  Is he trying to do something specific, results be damned?  Or is he just struggling so much with his command right now that he has to throw things over the middle of the plate?

    He started failing right after he was told he was going back down in spring training. I'm wondering if a round-trip ticket to AA would be helpful.  They really need to do something with him.  I'm amongst the group that says moving Meyer to the bullpen would be a waste of talent.

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    He started failing right after he was told he was going back down in spring training. I'm wondering if a round-trip ticket to AA would be helpful.  They really need to do something with him.  I'm amongst the group that says moving Meyer to the bullpen would be a waste of talent.

     

    Not really true. I was at the game in Port Charlotte that he started right before he was sent down in ST. He was all over the place.

     

    My thoughts since his first few starts of the season is something physical is bothering him. It's likely not major since he continues to go out there, but his performance thus far in comparison to his history suggests something is up.

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    One thing that confuses me - they sent Vargas down to get some work in during the short NL trip and two days off. OK, I can accept that. But he hasn't played in any of the three games so far. I understand not being able to play Sunday, but why wasn't he in the lineup either game yesterday?

     

    Spot on,  I've been wondering the exact same thing.  So, since apparently Time is not of the Essence, it's NOT going to be a quick turnaround thing to make a quick fix on his swing?

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    Or, maybe, he just doesn't have good control. Wouldn't be the first person to have that issue. For those saying he should stay a starter, how much longer would you continue the experiment, before trying the bullpen?

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    Spot on,  I've been wondering the exact same thing.  So, since apparently Time is not of the Essence, it's NOT going to be a quick turnaround thing to make a quick fix on his swing?

     

    I believe the Twins have an extended trip to the NL at the end of June. I bet you that he will be down through that time.

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    For the record, awhile ago I complained that Greg Peavey was in the organization. And now he has been fantastic since.

     

    May I ask that you do a weekly scan of guys who aren't performing,  your words appear to have magical qualities.  (Maybe start with Joe Mauer, and work your way down?)

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    I believe the Twins have an extended trip to the NL at the end of June. I bet you that he will be down through that time.

     

    Yeah, the folks who were thinking it might only be a week or two appear to be way off... I thought he at least would have played in the night game last night, plus as Seth noted, Rodriguez went down early in Game 1.  If he isn't immediately mashing, we may not see him by the end of June, the Twins will then have service time incentives to keep him down for 2.5 months.

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    Or, maybe, he just doesn't have good control. how much longer would you continue the experiment, before trying the bullpen?"

    At the age of 29, Randy Johnson had 144 BB in a season. Tall pitchers (Meyer=6'9") may be delayed getting the pitching mechanics coordinated for their widely separated body parts.

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    Or, maybe, he just doesn't have good control. how much longer would you continue the experiment, before trying the bullpen?"
    At the age of 29, Randy Johnson had 144 BB in a season. Tall pitchers (Meyer=6'9") may be delayed getting the pitching mechanics coordinated for their widely separated body parts.

     

     

    Not sure what this means? Should Meyer be up, even if he walks guys? Should they continue to keep him in AAA, not making MLB money, when he could maybe be up here as a RP? Should they make him a reliever soon?

     

    I am not sure what you are saying, other than agreeing, right now, he doesn't have control. He may or may not have control. Randy appears to be anomaly among tall pitchers, not the rule.....

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    Or, maybe, he just doesn't have good control. Wouldn't be the first person to have that issue. For those saying he should stay a starter, how much longer would you continue the experiment, before trying the bullpen?

     

    I say until at least the end of the year.  His performance this year has been awful but changing long term plans on a guy following a 6 weeks worth of games is not the way to handle a prospect.  I guess if he can't get out of this funk by the end of the season then the Twins have to start seriously re-evaluating long term plans for the guy. 

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    Good discussions. I'll try to catch up in a summary message:

     

     

    Regarding Meyer to the big league bullpen, I don't see how that would be good. Walks aren't good out of the bullpen either. I don't know if he's hurt or what. I might consider giving him two weeks off. Send him to Ft. Myers. Tell him not to pick up a baseball for 7-10 days. Try to get him to not even think about baseball. Or, have him 'coach' some of the EST pitchers and see what he learns from being on the other side of this. I don't know if there's a good answer. There isn't really a guaranteed right answer, so get creative.

     

    Greg Peavey - I wondered how long he'd stick in the rotation too. It's tough when players get off to a bad start because those numbers take a while to bring back up. IF they start out hot and then struggle, it takes longer for people to notice. He's obviously a solid pitcher. Threw well in AA last year. 

     

    Vargas - I speculated that part of the reason for sending him down was the 2 NL games, but in reality, they have more planned for him. It doesn't look like it'll be a ten-game thing. It may be a month, or two. Who knows? He doesn't have to report to AAA for a couple of days after a demotion. 

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    I am saying that the Twins should keep Meyer as a regular starter, keeping giving him as many innings as possible. If he still has control issues at the age of 30, move him to the bullpen and reduce his repertoire to 1-2 of his best pitches. If he can't control a one-pitch repertoire, he needs to start bagging groceries at the market.

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    "I don't see how that would be good. Walks aren't good out of the bullpen either"

    The advantage is that a relief pitcher does not need to control three pitches. One (see Mariano Rivera) or two pitches is sufficient for a one or two inning reliever.

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    Or, have him 'coach' some of the EST pitchers and see what he learns from being on the other side of this.

    Neat idea. Since he has worked as a teacher in the off-season, this especially fits his personality.

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    Not sure what this means? Should Meyer be up, even if he walks guys? Should they continue to keep him in AAA, not making MLB money, when he could maybe be up here as a RP? Should they make him a reliever soon?

     

    I am not sure what you are saying, other than agreeing, right now, he doesn't have control. He may or may not have control. Randy appears to be anomaly among tall pitchers, not the rule.....

    I am saying that the Twins should keep Meyer as a regular starter, keeping giving him as many innings as possible. If he still has control issues at the age of 30, move him to the bullpen and reduce his repertoire to 1-2 of his best pitches. If he can't control a one-pitch repertoire, he needs to start bagging groceries at the market.

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    He won't stay in their minors for that long, he'd leave. Every year not in the majors is lots of money down the drain. If he isn't up here until 30, would he ever even make $1MM in a year?

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    He won't stay in their minors for that long, he'd leave. Every year not in the majors is lots of money down the drain. If he isn't up here until 30, would he ever even make $1MM in a year?

    I'm assuming he would be a FA after 2017.

     

    I'm also surprised that there has been no push by the media boys to do something more drastic about this situation. I go back to Gardy's proposal in 2014 ST to bring him north in the pen, and have him working on his mechanical issues with the best the organization has to offer. And just this last weekend, we had a big article interviewing all of the Tampa Bay stud pitchers amidst heaping all of their highest praise for Neal Allen's innovative approach that has led to countless success stories with young, aspiring high-potential, arms.

     

    With all that is invested by this organization in Meyer's success, it's somewhat stunning that Meyer is not working with Allen on a daily basis. I mean, Meyer's already demonstrated mastery of AAA in 2014, something has obviously gone horribly wrong with him in 2015

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    For the record, awhile ago I complained that Greg Peavey was in the organization. And now he has been fantastic since.

     

    I also was one of the TD readers that wanted to tar and feather Peavey and run him out of town. Now he's pitching like he wants to to be the #1 ranked hurler in the org.  Baseball's a crazy game.

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    I was down on Peavy as well and he seems to have improved his all around game.  I still want Lee over Peavy, but can not down Peavy because of my wants.  Doesn't seem to be a strikeout pitcher like the Berrios and Duffy's on the staff, but does well at getting out of jams (lately).

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    For those wondering about Vargas:

     

    With Hu being called up to make the spot start for the Red Wings yesterday, they didn't have room on their active roster (24 player limit, guys on DL and rehabbers like Stauffer don't count against limit) to put Vargas on without making a corresponding move.So they waited until today when Hu was set to be sent back to A+ to activate him.I'm not sure if the timing of the situation would have allowed them to send Hu down after the first game and then activate Vargas for the second, or if they can only make roster moves at predetermined times in the day

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