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    Seth Stohs

    Since the end of the Twins minor league season, he at Twins Daily have handed out several awards. We have named the minor league Starting Pitcher, Relief Pitcher and Hitter of the Year. We named a Twins minor league All Star team. Now it’s time to start thinking about prospects. Today, I’m going to start my preliminary Top 50 Twins prospect rankings by posting choices for prospects 41-50. Over the next week or two, we’ll work our way up to the top prospects in the organization. Your thoughts, suggestions, comments and questions are welcomed.

    These prospect rankings may look a little different than they have in recent years. Consider the fact that players like Miguel Sano, Byron Buxton, Max Kepler, Jorge Polanco and Jose Berrios have all graduated from “prospect” status. However, the Twins still have several high-end prospects. There are many more who have the potential to get to that level, or to have big league futures in some manner.

    In Part 1, we’ll look at prospects 41-50. This is an interesting group of prospects. There are several relievers with some upside. There are a couple of pitchers who are a little older and for their level for a variety of reasons, but they still have potential to be big leaguers in time. There are a couple of starters. There are a couple of hitters who have upside or who have put up some numbers at some point. Your input is welcomed.

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    Players eligible to be on this list include players who remain eligible for Rookie of the Year voting in 2017. That is to say, hitters with less than 130 at-bats and pitchers with less than 50 innings. (The list is preliminary. Following research for the Minnesota Twins Prospect Handbook 2017 - which Cody Christie, Jeremy Nygaard and I are working on - I’ll provide my final Top 30 prospects list.)

    Top Prospects 41-50

    #50 – Tyler Wells - 22 – RHP – Elizabethton Twins

    The Twins used their 15th round pick this June on the right-hander from Cal State-San Bernadino. There, he made 15 starts and was 4-7 despite a 2.84 ERA. He had 89 strikeouts in 92 innings. At 6-8 and about 265 pounds, he has the potential to be a hard-throwing, strikeout pitcher. Obviously he’s got a long ways to go to get there. He finished the season with 19.1 scoreless innings. In his penultimate start, he gave up just one hit over seven innings and struck out 14 batters. He makes this list as a guy worth watching.

    #49 – Taylor Clemensia - 19 – LHP – GCL Twins

    The young Amsterdam native played in the Dutch leagues for a couple of years. He was an outfielder, a very good athlete with a big arm. The Twins signed him and moved him to the mound. He had a solid debut in the GCL this year. He posted a 2.47 ERA in 11 games (43.2 innings). He showed the ability to miss bats, at times, and he fought with control ,at times. However, Clemensia is said to have a good feel for pitching despite the fact he’s still learning.

    #48 – Travis Harrison - 23 – OF - Chattanooga Lookouts

    Harrison was the 50th overall pick of the 2011 draft out of high school in California. He’s been around quite some time, but he still is just 23 years old. In 2016, he repeated the AA Southern League level. Unfortunately, it was a difficult season. His batting average, on-base percentage and slugging percentage all dipped. He moved from left field to right field in 2016. In mid-July, he was hit in the head with a pitch and missed about two weeks with a concussion. He hit just .191 in 37 more games for the rest of the season. He’s got a strong work ethic, and 2017 will be a big year as he could become a free agent at the end of the season.

    #47 – Michael Cederoth - 23 – RHP – Cedar Rapids Kernels

    Cederoth was the Twins 3rd round pick in 2014 out of San Diego State. He was tried as a starter that season and at the start of the 2015 season. After missing the second half of the 2015 season with an illness, he began 2016 on the DL with an oblique strain. Once he came back to the Kernels, he was very good. He went 4-0 with a 2.45 ERA. In 47.2 innings, he gave up 35 hits, walked 33 and struck out 62 batters. Cederoth throws real hard and now that he’s healthy, he could move up quickly in 2016.

    #46 – Williams Ramirez - 24 – RHP – Cedar Rapids Kernels

    Ramirez is already a little bit older, but he’s still worth watching. He signed at an older age and debuted in the DSL at age 20. He spent two seasons there transitioning from infielder to pitcher. He was our choice for Twins Daily short-season pitcher of the year in 2015 when he went 4-2 with a 1.14 ERA and 0.91 WHIp and 10.3 K/9 in the GCL last year. After starting the 2016 season in Extended Spring Training, but by mid-June, he was up with the Kernels. As Jake Mauer told me in late May, his first night game with the Kernels was the first time he had ever pitched under the lights. Ramirez is a max-effort pitcher who works in the mid-90s. He’s also got a very sharp slider. He’s likely going to be a bullpen arm at this point.

    #45 – Miguel De Jesus - 21 – RHP – GCL Twins/Elizabethton Twins

    De Jesus signed with the Twins in 2014 from the Dominican Republic. He pitched there in 2015 before coming to the States this year. He began in the GCL where he made seven starts and went 3-1 with a 2.06 ERA. In 35 innings, he walked 11 and struck out 34. He was moved up to Elizabethton where he went 0-2 in four starts with a 3.00 ERA. He turned 21 just last week. He sits 92-96 with a fastball that gets a lot of movement. At 6-2 and a wiry 175 pounds, he has room for growth.

    #44 – Yorman Landa - 22 – RHP – Ft. Myers Miracle

    The Twins signed Landa as a 16-year-old out of Venezuela. He slowly works his way up the system, continuing to develop. He missed some time in 2014 and again in 2015 with a shoulder injury, but when he came back in the second half of 2015 in Cedar Rapids, he showed an upper-90s fastball with secondary pitches with big potential. Following the season, he was added to the Twins 40-man roster. He moved up to Ft. Myers this year. He made the Florida State League All Star team and hit 100 mph with three pitches in his inning. He went on the DL in July with more shoulder issues. Injury has been the one thing that has held him back, and keeps him from being higher on this list, but when healthy, he has potential to be a terrific late-inning reliever.

    #43 – Dereck Rodriguez - 24 – RHP – Cedar Rapids Kernels/Ft. Myers Miracle

    Rodriguez is the son of soon-to-be Hall of Famer Ivan “Pudge” Rodriguez. The Twins drafted him in the 6th round of the 2011 draft as an outfielder. He spent three seasons in the rookie leagues trying to hit. Starting in 2014, he made the transition to the mound. In 2015, he was the Appalachian League Pitcher of the Year in Elizabethton. He began the 2016 season in the Cedar Rapids rotation. Through his first nine starts, he was 1-7 with a 7.71 ERA. At that point, things started getting better. In his final nine starts with the Kernels, he went 3-4 with a 3.02 ERA and went at least six innings in each of those starts. He moved up to Ft. Myers where he went 1-2 but posted a 2.56 ERA. So while his overall numbers in 2016 don’t look great a deeper look shows that he started figuring things out over the final three months of the season.

    #42 – Aaron Whitefield - 20 – IF/OF – GCL Twins

    Signed out of Australia in the summer of 2015, Whitefield is an intriguing prospect. He hadn’t really played much baseball until shortly below that time. He had played for Team Australia in international softball competitions. However, he has great speed and some power potential. He can play all over the diamond. He was one of just a couple of GCL players who played nearly every day. He was the team’s leadoff hitter and hit .298/.370/.366 (.737) with seven doubles and two homers. He also stole 31 bases in 40 attempts. He was encouraged to run and had the green light. He played 1B and 3B and all three outfield positions. He just turned 20 at the start of September.

    #41 – Zander Wiel - 24 – 1B – Cedar Rapids Kernels

    Wiel was the Twins’ 12th round pick in 2015 out of Vanderbilt. His debut summer was shortened when he was hit in the wrist with a pitch. He struggled early in 2016 in Cedar Rapids, but as Parker pointed out in a recent article, he made some adjustments and his numbers in the second half were terrific. In July, he posted a .310/.407/.660 (1.067) with nine doubles, a triple and eight home runs. He ended the season strong too. He had nine hits over his final four games including four home runs and 11 RBI. He ended the season with 86 RBI which led the Midwest League. The first baseman had 17 errors at first base during the season.

    So what do you think of Part 1, Prospects 41-50? Next up will be prospects 31-40.

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    Does Cederoth project as a starter or reliever?

     

    If I remember right (no guarantee), I thought he mainly pitched in relief in 2016 and really excelled. I'm figuring given his 2016 stats, if he was projected as a starter, he'd be a bit higher on the list.

     

    He's a reliever at this point. 

     

    He can (potentially) be a dominant reliever... he could maybe be a middle-of-the-pack starter with injury concerns. He throws hard. 

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    I also love these lists. Sort of a short but in depth bio of guys I've read about and seen in the milb seasonal coverage, and a precursor to the handbook as well.

     

    There's a couple guys here with obvious questions due to age, injury and the such. But there's also a couple guys here who could be top 20 in a year or so.

     

    Whitefield seems like a very interesting guy to watch.

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    It's an interesting collection of names for many reasons, good and bad. Harrison is looking to be a minor bust. As usual, most of these guys are terribly long shots, but Landa and Cedaroth aren't dealing with chronic physical problems and should be considered real prospects. In looking at Ramirez and De Jesus, they appear to be guys the Twins picked up after they were glossed over at an earlier age, and it made me wonder if we're seeing the last remnants of Ryan's "let's just work harder and dig deeper" influence on things. Probably nothing to that, but it crossed my mind.

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    Love the list, like always.  I was wondering what kind of shot these players have.  I'd like to know from, say, 5 years ago- how many make the majors for more than a week?  Obviously being in this group still makes you a real longshot.

     

    I looked for an old list and all I quickly found was 2014: let's see how that list looks two years later.  How many of these players still have a chance?  Where did they end this year?

    50. Lewin Diaz- Elizabethton

    49. Ryan Eades- Chattanooga

    48. Tanner English- Rochester

    47. Jonatan Hinojosa- Cedar Rapids

    46. Max Murphy- Fort Myers

    45. Dalton Hicks- Chattanooga

    44. Jason Kanzler- Fort Myers

    43. Rainis Silva- Cedar Rapids

    42. Felix Jorge- Chattanooga

    41. Brett Lee- released by Twins, signed by Brewers and released

     

    So 9 of the 10 are still in the organization, which surprises me (great job Seth) and some of them look to have a decent chance of making it.  Let's hope this year's class does at least as well.

     

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    It's an interesting collection of names for many reasons, good and bad. Harrison is looking to be a minor bust. As usual, most of these guys are terribly long shots, but Landa and Cedaroth aren't dealing with chronic physical problems and should be considered real prospects. In looking at Ramirez and De Jesus, they appear to be guys the Twins picked up after they were glossed over at an earlier age, and it made me wonder if we're seeing the last remnants of Ryan's "let's just work harder and dig deeper" influence on things. Probably nothing to that, but it crossed my mind.

     

    I would hope that would never be the case. De Jesus and Ramirez are legit talents, and if they're found at a later age, good for the Twins for giving them a chance. 

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    Looking at Harrison and Cederoth (and Landa to a lesser extend) that low, is a full testament to the Twins inability to identify, draft, and develop talent.

     

    Cederoth's numbers on paper and from 30,000 ft might look 'very good', but if you look at the fact that the second half of his age 23 season in single A ball was 20/33 BB/K, 1.540 WHIP, I find it very hard to say that he can dominate in the majors, when he cannot do that in the Midwest League.  Good to see him to play finally, but darn, what a waste of a pick...

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    Love the list, like always.  I was wondering what kind of shot these players have.  I'd like to know from, say, 5 years ago- how many make the majors for more than a week?  Obviously being in this group still makes you a real longshot.

     

    I looked for an old list and all I quickly found was 2014: let's see how that list looks two years later.  How many of these players still have a chance?  Where did they end this year?

    50. Lewin Diaz- Elizabethton

    49. Ryan Eades- Chattanooga

    48. Tanner English- Rochester

    47. Jonatan Hinojosa- Cedar Rapids

    46. Max Murphy- Fort Myers

    45. Dalton Hicks- Chattanooga

    44. Jason Kanzler- Fort Myers

    43. Rainis Silva- Cedar Rapids

    42. Felix Jorge- Chattanooga

    41. Brett Lee- released by Twins, signed by Brewers and released

     

    So 9 of the 10 are still in the organization, which surprises me (great job Seth) and some of them look to have a decent chance of making it.  Let's hope this year's class does at least as well.

     

    Diaz, English and Jorge will be in future installments, for sure... 

     

    Lee was released in spring. Kanzler was released last year. Hinojosa was released last year. 

     

    Eades has a shot still... Silva is still young and was with Cedar Rapids. Noteworthy that he didn't catch at all for the Kernels once the playoffs started though. 

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    Thanks, Seth.  I thought Kanzler had been released, but when I checked the MiLB pages I forgot to look at the year so I assumed it was all current.  Oops.

     

    I was the charter member of the Free Max Murphy bandwagon.  We broke an axle a while back.  Still not sure if it can be fixed.

     

     

     

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    Looking at Harrison and Cederoth (and Landa to a lesser extend) that low, is a full testament to the Twins inability to identify, draft, and develop talent.

     

    Cederoth's numbers on paper and from 30,000 ft might look 'very good', but if you look at the fact that the second half of his age 23 season in single A ball was 20/33 BB/K, 1.540 WHIP, I find it very hard to say that he can dominate in the majors, when he cannot do that in the Midwest League.  Good to see him to play finally, but darn, what a waste of a pick...

     

    Fair statistical points, but his future, like any prospect, is about hoping to improve the deficiency so that by the time he might get to the big leagues - 2-3 years later - he's figured some of those things out. Way too early to call that a wasted pick. If you can get a 100 mph fastball in the third round, hard to give up on yet. 

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    Thanks, Seth.  I thought Kanzler had been released, but when I checked the MiLB pages I forgot to look at the year so I assumed it was all current.  Oops.

     

    I was the charter member of the Free Max Murphy bandwagon.  We broke an axle a while back.  Still not sure if it can be fixed.

     

    And Murphy is at Instructs now because he missed so much time this year with injuries. He's got some talent.

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    Ya, first year in the bigs and he doesn't dominate every single day. Time to cut lose that dead weight.

    I was thinking maybe the poster meant Max Murphy and just typed Kepler instead.  Kepler never looked like Mickey Mantle.  Murphy had the OPS of .958 in 2014, then it dropped to .650 for 93 games in 2015.

     

    I do think Murphy still has a shot, but that injury has pushed him a ways down the ladder.  Here's hoping he comes back.

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    I was really hoping Harrison would have a break out season this year.  Dang.  

    Yeah, 15 HRs back in 2013, and just 16 in the three years since then. He's been disappointing as a supplemental first rounder, but I guess that's the risk with taking high schoolers. He never has come into the power that scouts thought he would.

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    Whitefield seems like a very interesting guy to watch.

    It should be fun to see his stolen base totals over a full season. Maybe somewhere in the 50-60 range.

     

    Also interesting is that he's listed at 6'4" and 200 lbs, so he seems to be an excellent athlete with the size to potentially add power.

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    It should be fun to see his stolen base totals over a full season. Maybe somewhere in the 50-60 range.

     

    Also interesting is that he's listed at 6'4" and 200 lbs, so he seems to be an excellent athlete with the size to potentially add power.

     

    He measured in at 6-3 and 191 pounds this spring, but he is definitely a great athlete with a chance to grow, get stronger and maintain his speed... The baseball stuff will come. 

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    I've never understood why these things go in reverse order.  OMG, do you think Sano, Buxton, and Berrios will be in the top 10? (to use a past year's example)

     

    The interesting part is not whether Fernando Romero is in the top 10, we know he is, but who is worthy of prospect status.  I would just list them in order until I found no one worth listing.  I doubt that goes to 50, though. ;-)

     

    Hmmm...actually looking at your 41-50, maybe there are 50 legit prospects.

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    I've never understood why these things go in reverse order.  OMG, do you think Sano, Buxton, and Berrios will be in the top 10? (to use a past year's example)

     

    The interesting part is not whether Fernando Romero is in the top 10, we know he is, but who is worthy of prospect status.  I would just list them in order until I found no one worth listing.  I doubt that goes to 50, though. ;-)

     

    Hmmm...actually looking at your 41-50, maybe there are 50 legit prospects.

    It's to get fans to recognize some lesser prospects.  If we started at #1, no one would pay attention to #39.

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    Most of these are watch and see if they develop. Unlike other organizations, a few of these have a real chance. Great list and fun players to watch.

     

    Once they're in the system, they all have a chance. I think it's a good thing. Obviously high signing bonus guys will get more chances, but if guys keep performing, there's always a chance to move up.

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    It's to get fans to recognize some lesser prospects.  If we started at #1, no one would pay attention to #39.

     

    Absolutely... Not sure how it would play if we just worked our way up... but this gets a lot of deserving players recognized and discussed.

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    Looking at Harrison and Cederoth (and Landa to a lesser extend) that low, is a full testament to the Twins inability to identify, draft, and develop talent.

     

    Cederoth's numbers on paper and from 30,000 ft might look 'very good', but if you look at the fact that the second half of his age 23 season in single A ball was 20/33 BB/K, 1.540 WHIP, I find it very hard to say that he can dominate in the majors, when he cannot do that in the Midwest League.  Good to see him to play finally, but darn, what a waste of a pick...

    It's not even a partial testament. You do understand if a draft produces 2 solid players, it's considered a good draft, right?

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    Looking at Harrison and Cederoth (and Landa to a lesser extend) that low, is a full testament to the Twins inability to identify, draft, and develop talent.

     

    Cederoth's numbers on paper and from 30,000 ft might look 'very good', but if you look at the fact that the second half of his age 23 season in single A ball was 20/33 BB/K, 1.540 WHIP, I find it very hard to say that he can dominate in the majors, when he cannot do that in the Midwest League.  Good to see him to play finally, but darn, what a waste of a pick...

     

     

    Let's re-think our statement, shall we?

     

    Over the TEN YEAR period from 2003 through 2012, not a single prospect picked where Harrison was picked in the supplemental round has ever made it to MLB. Not one. Harrison is one of two who still have any shot at all.

     

    Of the TEN PROSPECTS selected on either side of Harrison's #50 slot in 2011, only one of those prospects has made it to MLB.

     

    I didn't count them, but I'm wiiling to bet that two-thirds of all players drafted PRIOR to the 50th pick in all those ten drafts will never see a day in MLB.

     

    So thrylos, THIS is a full testament to the inability of virtually every single team in baseball to identify, draft, and develop talent.

     

    What do you have as a response to these comparative facts? Or maybe you didn't intend to single out the Twins?

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