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    Theodore Tollefson

    Carlos Correa has officially returned to the Twins, and now the organization may have a surplus of talented shortstops at all levels. Does Correa’s return challenge the future plans of these players, or is this a good situation the Twins front office is happy to have on hand?

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    With Correa back in Minnesota, the Twins have three shortstops on the 40-man rosters with an additional three in their top 20 prospect rankings across many publications. Some fans (if they know little about baseball) may argue the Twins have more shortstops than they know what to do with. 

    Fortunately for Twins president of baseball operations, Derek Falvey, the surplus of shortstops is not a problem to be had. 

    “I will take having more shortstops than we have spots for every day of the week,” said Falvey in an interview following Correa’s press conference. “That tends to lead to good outcomes over time in different spots on the team. If you can play shortstop, you can move around on the dirt. And you're probably going to be pretty good at that.”

    Kyle Farmer 
    For some time this off-season, Kyle Farmer was looking to be the Twins primary shortstop, but when the Twins acquired him from the Reds via trade, they knew they were getting him for more than just one position. 

    “We really did feel that when we traded for Kyle. He’s a good player, a good shortstop. [We had] a unique situation. So we think Kyle can play in multiple slots. We actually still think he fits our current team, even in a slightly more hybrid role than what he plays, because he deepens our team [defensively],” Falvey said.

    While Farmer has only played four games in the outfield his entire professional career (all in left field), Falvey feels confident Farmer can extend his utility infield role into the corner outfield positions. Especially as a way to balance the heavy amount of left-handed hitters in the outfield. Though the team has yet to officially announced this, Farmer is anticipated to be the "emergency catcher" given his previous time at the position during his call up with the Dodgers in 2017.

    Royce Lewis
    With Royce Lewis, the situation is not entirely a downside with Correa’s return. Yes, his main position is blocked, but that is not the only position that Lewis feels comfortable playing on the infield. 

    “Third base. I played three years in high school and that was my first position,” Lewis said in an interview with Twins Daily in May 2022. “That move is actually very easy for me. It's the same side of the infield and the ground balls are very similar and it's usually just more topspin [of the ball] over at third base.”

    Prior to his season-ending injury on May 29, 2022, Lewis played only nine games at positions that weren’t shortstop with two of those games at third for the St. Paul Saints. 

    Jose Miranda is still set up to be the team’s everyday third baseman and while the Twins may not put Lewis back in centerfield, considering that is where he re-injured his knee, for his return. He has the ability and arm strength for third base as well as corner outfield positions. 

    Brooks Lee
    The last primary shortstop that some people expect to break onto the Twins roster sometime in 2023 is Brooks Lee. Since being drafted last July by the Twins, Lee has only played games at short or as the designated hitter at Cedar Rapids and Wichita. 

    Lee played a handful of games between second and third base in college at California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo. Falvey acknowledged that there are conversations in the organization on how the Twins handle his primary defensive position based on his overall progression as a player in the minors this season. 

    By signing Correa, Lee’s progression has no need to be rushed to the big leagues, and Lee and the organization can figure out what his next best position is. And to go a step further, Lee has received the invitation as a non-roster invitee to Spring Training, which will give him plenty of time for tutelage under Correa himself. 

    Other Shortstop Prospects
    There are three other notable shortstop prospects that the Twins have to work with at other positions with Correa’s return; Austin Martin, Noah Miller, and Tanner Schobel

    Martin has transitioned more into an outfielder throughout the 2022 season and there are those who see him as an ideal backup to Byron Buxton in center field when the time comes for his call-up. Martin had his value plummet with a down year in Wichita for 2022. He went to the Arizona Fall League and regained his value and played 95% of his games at shortstop, but with Correa back, the Twins can expect his move to the outfield to be full-time.

    Miller is an interesting case as he is the only one of the Twins top five picks from the 2021 Amateur Draft that remains in the organization. A high school pick from eastern Wisconsin, Miller spent the full 2022 season in Fort Myers. He still has not played a position other than shortstop but his defense is not the problem on the diamond, more so the results of his hitting. Given he is only 20, there is time to figure out what other positions he can play.

    Finally, Schobel, who was the third pick out of this last year’s draft, has already been shifted to second base. Schobel played only a handful of games at short after he was drafted, and will likely start his 2023 season on the other side of Miller in Ft. Myers or Cedar Rapids. 

     

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    Having Lee/Lewis/Correa as our 2B/3B/SS combo for the foreseeable future would be wonderful, Lewis looks like a stud SS and Lee looks like the second-coming of Trea Turner (while being just a little slower), Martin likely follows in the footsteps of Nick Gordon and is suited more for a 2B/LF/CF utility role, while Miller and Schobel look more like eventual trade pieces

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    While I wish Farmer hit RHP a little better, I really like having him as a super-utility player with a solid bat. Assuming he's not traded...and I don't see it happening...Gordon teams with Farmer to offer a tremendous amount of flexibility off the bench. 

    Eventually, possibly soon, I see Lewis and Lee settling in at 2B/3B in some combination. That hurts me saying it as Polanco is one of my favorite Twins and I think he's got more than a few really good years in him. Of course, Lewis could become an OF or even a super-utility player that's in the lineup DAILY at multiple positions should they choose to keep Polanco. Of course, both Lee and Lewis can spell Correa if/when Farmer is gone.

    What about Miranda? No reason he can't move between 3B/1B/DH and share 1B with a healthy AK, who can also play some OF as well.

    This is a very nice "problem" for the Twins to have!

    The writing is on the wall, I believe, that Martin is just not a SS. He should be in LF and covering CF as well. He can fill in at 3B/2B, which is where he played in college. 

    Miller is young enough, and far away enough that I don't even have him in the equation yet. 

    While NOT a SS. I do wonder about the future of Julien though. Could he wind up at 2B with Lewis in the OF? But then again, we still have to make a decision on Polanco eventually. Does Julien "take over" for Arraez as a bat/offense first handy man who can even DH some?

    Again, this is a wonderful "problem" to have, fitting in so many talented young players. The reality is, whether now or maybe next year, the Twins are probably going to move a young OF and someone from the INF equation for additional help somewhere else. 

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    4 hours ago, DocBauer said:

    While I wish Farmer hit RHP a little better, I really like having him as a super-utility player with a solid bat. Assuming he's not traded...and I don't see it happening...Gordon teams with Farmer to offer a tremendous amount of flexibility off the bench. 

    Eventually, possibly soon, I see Lewis and Lee settling in at 2B/3B in some combination. That hurts me saying it as Polanco is one of my favorite Twins and I think he's got more than a few really good years in him. Of course, Lewis could become an OF or even a super-utility player that's in the lineup DAILY at multiple positions should they choose to keep Polanco. Of course, both Lee and Lewis can spell Correa if/when Farmer is gone.

    What about Miranda? No reason he can't move between 3B/1B/DH and share 1B with a healthy AK, who can also play some OF as well.

    This is a very nice "problem" for the Twins to have!

    The writing is on the wall, I believe, that Martin is just not a SS. He should be in LF and covering CF as well. He can fill in at 3B/2B, which is where he played in college. 

    Miller is young enough, and far away enough that I don't even have him in the equation yet. 

    While NOT a SS. I do wonder about the future of Julien though. Could he wind up at 2B with Lewis in the OF? But then again, we still have to make a decision on Polanco eventually. Does Julien "take over" for Arraez as a bat/offense first handy man who can even DH some?

    Again, this is a wonderful "problem" to have, fitting in so many talented young players. The reality is, whether now or maybe next year, the Twins are probably going to move a young OF and someone from the INF equation for additional help somewhere else. 

    Where they gonna find a healthy AK?

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    8 hours ago, Fire Dan Gladden said:

    They had a surplus of high-end SS prospects before Correa signed.  You can never have too much talent.

    Who? They have a bunch of guys that were drafted at SS, sure. Maybe one of them will even play some SS in the MLB some day, but a surplus of high-end SS prospects? Not in the least.

    Only Lewis has actually shown ability to defend the position adequately at an MLB level, and that was before he injured his ACL again. The twins maybe have someone in the system that could defend SS in the majors (Noah Miller?), but there's certainly not a surplus and not of high end prospects.

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    8 hours ago, h2oface said:

    Folks are being very optimistic about how long Correa will be able to or be the best option at short. 2022 already started the decline, perhaps, if 2021 was considered his peak......... 

    If the Twins didn't plan on having Correa play ss for most likely all of his 6 years, they probably wouldn't have given him a $200m contract.  

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    6 hours ago, AlGoreRythm said:

    Who? They have a bunch of guys that were drafted at SS, sure. Maybe one of them will even play some SS in the MLB some day, but a surplus of high-end SS prospects? Not in the least.

    Only Lewis has actually shown ability to defend the position adequately at an MLB level, and that was before he injured his ACL again. The twins maybe have someone in the system that could defend SS in the majors (Noah Miller?), but there's certainly not a surplus and not of high end prospects.

    Al, Your points are well taken. You are correct according to all of the major prospect rankings. We Twins' fans tend to rank our Twins' prospects higher than any of the major prospect lists and rankings. Why is that?  I think it is similar to parents who erroneously think their children are the greatest athletes on any team, because they love their children and are biased. We Twins' fans are also biased in our beliefs about the Twins' prospects.

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    1 hour ago, tarheeltwinsfan said:

    Al, Your points are well taken. You are correct according to all of the major prospect rankings. We Twins' fans tend to rank our Twins' prospects higher than any of the major prospect lists and rankings. Why is that?  I think it is similar to parents who erroneously think their children are the greatest athletes on any team, because they love their children and are biased. We Twins' fans are also biased in our beliefs about the Twins' prospects.

    I'm a lifelong Twins fan myself. Ever since I saw Milton's no hitter at the dome for my 12th bday party.

    But we've gotta be real about the farm system and what's a strength and what isn't.

    Wish-casting and hoping is great, but if we're trying to honestly analyze the team, it's not useful. 

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    Starting as early as next year I would love to have this infield:

    Lee and 3rd, C4 at SS, Lewis at 2nd, and then either AK against righties, or Miranda against lefties.  Could solidify the infield for the next half decade and free us up to trade Polanco while still has a plus value contract for pitching.

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    Miller is Correa's heir at SS until he proves he can't hit. It'll take him a few more years to be knocking at the door and that'll be about the time to start looking at Correa's effectiveness at SS.  Other than that you can let Lee or whoever play SS in St Paul (someone has to) but the planned succession goes past the guys you mentioned, which is I guess the point of the piece.

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    Lee & Lewis seem to me to be the everyday prospects closest to MLB solid contributors. Still waiting for Larnach & Kirilof to actually contribute…….with Arraez at 25 & Miranda at 24, we have a lot of young guys (3-4 more at AA or AAA) that can contribute big things along with Vázquez - Polanco - CC - Buxton (veteran group) & there’s only 9 spots in the line-up.

    We need to consider moving some youth from Farm System that is now expendable with the Correa signing and get a front line pitcher. To me, Martin’s versatility in IF & OF & his outstanding ‘22 Fall Ball offense pushes him to front of prospect trade line. Top end marketability!!!

    I don’t know what trade partners want nor am I any kind of expert on our Minor League talent but I do know Marlins need left handed bats. Suggestion below that may make sense for Marlins? Open to other guys coming up based on what pop trade partner’s wants. 

    Kepler - López or Pagan - Martin (not Lee nor Lewis) or whoever

    to Marlins

    For Luzardo

    PLEASE!!

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    11 hours ago, DocBauer said:

    Find a nice piece of wood and start a-knocking! Supposedly, he's working out and not feeling any pain at this time. 

     

    11 hours ago, DocBauer said:

    Find a nice piece of wood and start a-knocking! Supposedly, he's working out and not feeling any pain at this time. 

    Even I'm not feeling any pain at this time of the season........

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    22 hours ago, Heiny said:

    If the Twins didn't plan on having Correa play ss for most likely all of his 6 years, they probably wouldn't have given him a $200m contract.  

    Oh, I am sure that is the plan, alright. Definitely the $200 million+ plan. Absolutely.... the plan.

    Like I said..... very optimistic.

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