Twins Future Position Analysis: Shortstop

Holland was a really nice pick...drafted later than expected after a somewhat disappointing season IIRC...but he has a way to go. Cavaco has an even longer climb considering age plus a missed season.

I may be stubborn, but I refuse to give up on Javier based on tools and age. But can we just have a healthy and actual milb season for him? (Still believe he and Miranda could be a 3B option in the future).

I honestly can't recall a prospect as "snake bit" as Gordon. Despite some ailments...reportedly determined and under control...he then runs in to injury to de-rail a possible promotion given to Arraez. Now, that looks pretty good so far for Arraez and the Twins. But then, Gordon gets wiped out by Covid for 2020. I still think he has a shot as a future, versatile utility player. MAYBE a starting 2B for someone. There is some offense there and defensive versatility, but I think versatile utility infielder is his calling at this point.

Two big elephants in the room: 1] How good is Polanco REALLY and 2] How good is Lewis POTENTIALLY.

POLANCO: Despite being a very good athlete, he just doesn't have the IT factor to be a top SS. But does he have to be? The game has changed! His new throwing motion has allowed for great improvement and he's worked hard on his hands. Shifts have also helped. But his #1 obstacle is just getting healthy and staying that way. Over the past 3 seasons we have seen a HEALTHY Polanco play at least acceptable/solid defense and perform as a borderline elite offensive SS who can be productive in various spots in the lineup. And HOPEFULLY his 2nd ankle surgery will be minor and have him 100% right and ready to go in 2021. Is that a BIG hope? I "hope" not. But if you haven't watched a healthy Polanco over the past few seasons and seen his value, then I can make no valid arguement to you. His future role may yet to be determined. But right now, HEALTHY he's the guy.

LEWIS: Look, I don't pretend to be an expert on the potential of prospects. But I have to laugh sometimes when others pretend to be. The little I've seen of Lewis defensively is post game footage and a few innings of milb games. Of course, I read reports as well. What I've seen and heard and read is a great athlete who seems to make plays, sometimes great plays, but is still feeling his way a bit. And we should be shocked that a super athletic young 21yo has all the skills and makes amazing plays but is still learning and growing a bit at the position? Please.

Lewis had an amazing 2018 before being promoted late in the year. Even with an injury affected 2019, the FO saw enough to promote him to AA to finish the year. Fully healthy, he goes to the AFL and plays around the field and ends up garnering the MVP.

This kid is a top 100 prospect and the Twins #1 prospect for a reason. But that doesn't mean there aren't growing pains and development taking place and that he's ready for a full time gig in 2021.

At some point, I still think Lewis will be the SS. And I think his debut may be in 2021 as a fill-in, if not more. But if Polanco can be 100%, he is the SS for the next season or two.

How aweful it would be to try and figure out how to get Arraez, Polanco and Lewis on the field every day with Sano and Donaldson at the corners and even DH.

Polanco PROBABLY short term before transitioning, and Lewis long term.

Polanco could fill the super utility role (2B-SS-3B-LF?) and there would be solid rotation of those three.

For Nick Gordon I use the often used phrase," Play me or trade me".

A whole stat block of shortstops that can't hit. Damn. Looks pretty bleak. Talk all you want about tools..... the results suck.

That's not fair. Lewis has hit... just not in the stat box year.

Always thought Polanco should play 2B. He is over extending himself at SS. His 1st full season he came up w/ sore ankles & still is plaguing him. W/ Donaldson at 3B, Polanco is adequate at SS but          when          Donaldson is down we  suffer tremendously. We need an upgrade at SS & back up position. FO is looking at Hernandez which is finally a step in the right direction which would also help out as a CF back up. 

I see no future for Gordon w/ the Twins. He has difficulty to adjust to each level he progresses. He`s a light hitting, average at best SS/2B. He could play   average   SS/2B for some MLB team that has the patience for him to adjust to MLB but I hope not the Twins.

I don't know about Lin. Maybe he could help fill in as utility, he has plenty of experience

Lewis is the only viable near future in  house        solution to SS. How great he'll be or if he sticks there, time will tell. He's athletic & great baseball sense but many believe he's too young to step in now. I won't disagree more time to prepare won't hurt.

Getting back to Polanco, they need to take their time       not push him into the line up, let him heal 100%. When he's ready I think        it'd be good idea to keep him at 2B & not utility. It seemed to me especially in the beginning Polanco was insecure in how to deliver the ball, that uncertainty caused a few throwing errors. Playing utility would increase that problem. At 2B he'd be w/o the physically & psychological stress he could be transformed into a gold glove  all-star much like Dozier. 

It's Polanco for the short term (and yes, he's just got to stay healthy).  

It could be Lewis but I've just got a CF vibe on him. 

But I'd rather Lewis NOT end up in CF if we already have Kiriloff, Larnach, Kepler etc...

I also do not want to give up on Wander Javier but this is his make or break season.

He either stays healthy and shows us something or he's history.  

As GNess said. Polanco is ideally suited for the super utility role. That would leave short stop to either Gordon or Lewis. But not right away. Start the season with Polanco at SS and Gordon in in the utility role so that Gordon can display what he has. (I mean, after all these years if Gordon can't at least be a good utility guy how will he ever be a position player). Mid season bring up Lewis and add to the mix. Their play will determine their roles but one thing is for sure. The utility player better play a good third base because he could play extended time at a moments notice

With all the shifts, how do we define the SS position now?  Half the time the 3B must now be in the SS position.  

It would have been better without the box of slash lines (just kidding) - that was really depressing.  Lewis is the only one and lets hope this was just a down year and his fall stats represent the real player.  I am not excited about Javier and Cavaco - I need to see some production before they make the prospect list for me. 

And for some reason I think we will see Gordon on the team this year.

I like all the dialogue here.  I think the Twins would need Polanco to fit the utility roll more than Polanco needs it.  He's sufficient when healthy at short.  However, in order for the Twins to keep Jorge's bat, Arraez at 2B, and allow Lewis to blossom, we'll need someplace to put him.

Then there's the 2B route for Jorge.  I would hate to push Arraez out of that spot.  Jorge may be the better defender there w/more pop, but I truly believe Arraez will be a career .300+ hitter.  Which is more important?

Gordon...man I keep regretting the Twins not trading him and Gonsalves, and Jay was it, for Gerrit Cole.  Woof.  The poor kid can't keep it together in one way, shape, or form.  I wouldn't hate him getting an opportunity, but I'd prefer utilizing Polanco, Arraez, and Lewis.

As for Lewis, we're going to LOVE his Torii Hunter-like passion for the game.  He is full of enthusiasm and charisma, not to mention insane amounts of God given talent.  As long as his game continues to improve, he will be our team leader w/a corner locker for a decade.  I'm not concerned about his defense, his work ethic, or intangibles.  I'm concerned about his bat.

Ha.... stat box now hidden as a download attachment? Funny.

Now it is just 

Download attachment: Twins Minor League SS.JPG

and no picture. Maybe it is just my computer..... the picture was there yesterday.

Having watched Nick Gordon in 2018-19 for the Red Wings, I have serious doubts that he will ever be more than a fringe utility player in the majors. Draft position aside (terrible overreach by the Ryan FO), Gordon doesn’t show great baseball instincts , is far better suited for 2B than SS due to limited range and arm, plus rarely drives the ball . The best scenario for the Twins would be to include him in a package - with the receiving team hoping that a “change of scenery “ will work wonders.

Jorge Polanco was the  American League starting shortstop in the 2019 All Star Game. I agree that his ankles have been a real hindrance in his performance, both in the field and at the plate, but unless the Twins doubt his ability to regain the strength needed for a full season he is our shortstop. 

If there are reports that Polanco is diminished or that his speed or agility is compromised and the evaluator's view of Royce Lewis puts him in the outfield, then Falvine better get to work on a trade (Marte, Story) or signing (Semien).

For Nick Gordon I use the often used phrase," Play me or trade me".

And the FO response is, "What was your name again?"

Arraez has to be factored into the equation.  Where is he going to play, because I've seen enough to know that he needs to be in the lineup.

JcS

I agree with you guys about Arraez.

Not only will he be a .300 hitter, but he draws walks.  His OBP means he should hit at 

the top of the lineup.