Twins 4, Guardians 11: Gray Injured, Henriquez Debuts in Ugly Loss

I have now given up on this season. I was a holdout and I give up.

Twins lost 2 games in this series on fielding stupidity, regardless of the blow out, they should have won 3.

Nothing left for me to look forward to this season except going to see Shohei Ohtani.

16 minutes ago, glunn said:

You held out for longer than me. I gave up last week.

#metoo

Thank you Twins for giving us some good baseball. IMO we had the players & could have won it but nevertheless thank you. Gordon has proved himself again by pruducing runs when we needed them. Now we can bring up some young players, let them play and see what they can do. Go Twins

Time to bring up some more of the kids and see what they can do.  It does no good to see the marginal vets now that we are pretty much out of this.

At least it's over now. The season is done and the Twins are all but statistically eliminated. With 15 games to play and the magic number 9, the Twins would basically need to win out and for Cleveland to go worse than 8-7. That is not happening.

Even if Cleveland went 8-7 (or worse), the losses must not come against the White Sox who are 3 games up on the Twins as well.

Ugly game!!!! Safe to say season is done. Credit for twins staying in division race this late but off season they need to reevaluate who’s stays goes. It’s difficult to win with most outfits starting lineup/pitching injured. Hopefully 2023 we can make the improvements needed this off season and win division/end playoffs losing streak 

For me, Lopez continuing to struggle was the big news out of this game. He looks like the “old” Lopez ever since the Twins acquired him. Never bet on a reliever who has a half year of success. I hope I am wrong and he comes back strong next year. 

I noticed you gave henriquez a dressing down for his  poor performance in his 4 th inning of relief.  That is understandable.  However no mention at all of our great closer Lopez who gave up 4 runs and couldn't even complete an inning of work.  He's been awful since we got him.  Anyway just a typical loss for a team just going through the motions the past few weeks.

Can we talk about how bad Jorge Lopez has been? Since coming over he has literally been the same guy Baltimore gave up on as a starter, except now he's imploding from the pen. From an opposing fan perspective the hissy fits on the mound have to be hilarious, from a Twins fan perspective they're also hilarious, but in a sad kind of way. Are we still happy/comfortable with him being locked into a pen spot next year? Yeesh....

Lopez has been infected by the Pagan virus.

What was lost in this debacle is that Palacios's K/9 fell from 27 to 13.5.  How tragic.

Just HAD to get that extra inning out of rookie HENRIQUEZ in what had developed into a close game, eh, Rocco?

38 minutes ago, RJA said:

For me, Lopez continuing to struggle was the big news out of this game. He looks like the “old” Lopez ever since the Twins acquired him. Never bet on a reliever who has a half year of success. I hope I am wrong and he comes back strong next year. 

I hope we do not see him next year.  He has had 1/2 year of success in his career  - don't look for more. 

Come on KC - make us feel good again, make us think we are better than we are.  It is easy, because we want to be fooled.

Level of concern for Lopez is rising.  Hasn't looked real good under the "tutelage" of the Twins....shocking.

how did it get this bad....? (no real need to answer this..)

5 minutes ago, garn from vancouver said:

how did it get this bad....? (no real need to answer this..)

We'll look real good the next 3 games.... Finally a team we can handle.

Can't fault the Twins for trying to add players at the trade deadline. The mistake is The Plan. The recently completed five game series was a lesson in baseball fundamentals at its core. To the end Cleveland was able to focus despite the raw shenanigans of the Twins reliever. The White Sox would have had words or cleared their bench in a couple of instances, but Cleveland just hits line drives and goes about the business of playing baseball. Two teams in direct contrast to each other in nearly every facet of the game. The future can deliver change though.

This team has all but emptied their lockers and got the golf dates set.They will all be gone by second weekend in October. We can only hope for wholesale changes for this organization. If we stick with this plan look for a really long season next year. I can only hope that Correa opts out and we use the money saved to bring in some pitching. 

Am I the only Twins fan rooting for Judge to get the triple crown?

1 hour ago, mikelink45 said:

Am I the only Twins fan rooting for Judge to get the triple crown?

Not sure, but I’m cheering for Arraez to win the batting title. 

At least Pagan has pitched well lately.   Now the Twins can pick up his option for next year 

Speaking of the Pagan virus...

I'd like to ask every Twins Daily fan to go out and get vaccinated, whatever the current nasty virus is called. Much as we are frustrated by the Electric Pagan Sacrifice, we cannot honestly blame him for the pandemic. 

Can we?

Whatever. Go get the jab; don't wind up on the slab.

7 hours ago, baul0010 said:

We'll look real good the next 3 games.... Finally a team we can handle.

I’d take, at this point, KC winning the series, myself. And 5-10 games under .500 on the season. Inspiration is just not there. 

10 hours ago, Unwinder said:

I have now given up on this season. I was a holdout and I give up.

Pennant drive, fail.

I hope they now shut down all that have any injury at all, get procedures or surgeries et al asap, and figure out a good plan to be healthy and healed for a sustained amount of time. No reason at all for those on the IL to come back in this torched season. None. 

Hire the Mayo Clinic as bench coaches 

12 hours ago, tony&rodney said:

Can't fault the Twins for trying to add players at the trade deadline. The mistake is The Plan. The recently completed five game series was a lesson in baseball fundamentals at its core. To the end Cleveland was able to focus despite the raw shenanigans of the Twins reliever. The White Sox would have had words or cleared their bench in a couple of instances, but Cleveland just hits line drives and goes about the business of playing baseball. Two teams in direct contrast to each other in nearly every facet of the game. The future can deliver change though.

Really an excellent post. Thanks.