Official Rule 5 Draft Day Thread

If the Twins like someone that is available, who do you think would get removed from the 40 man?

I used to eagerly follow the Rule 5 draft, hoping the Twins could snag another Santana-like sleeper. But, after reading other posts about the way rosters are now constructed, I'm not so keen on the idea any longer. And even if we lose guys like Jay and/or Diaz, I won't be too crushed.

After everything that went on the last couple years, am glad there isn't room to make a pick this year.  

 

Don't know what to think about Jay, other than disappointment.  Puzzling is the word that comes to mind when thinking about Reed, both in how the Twins handled him and why he wasn't previously drafted.  The other two pitchers you discuss, Seth, aren't on the same page as the first two...at least for me.  As for Diaz, will add him to the list of those who have been disappointing.  Understand not adding Wiel to the 40-man, but he is someone I am concerned could be lost.

 

I do look for the Twins to add to their minor league talent pool by taking one or two players later this morning.  Hopefully, they will find a good one.

I'm actually rooting for somebody to take Jake Reed. He deserves a shot.

Looking at the list of guys available, obviously Richie Martin is gonna stand out as the best player available, but looking closer I’ve found that there are a several quality arms available in this draft. If we want to add to our bullpen we could draft either Riley Ferrell or Art Warren as they both are pretty much ML ready (like Jake Reed). Guys that could give us innings and make a couple starts are Spencer Adams, Jordan Romano, and Roniel Raudes. And If we’re by chance we’re still looking for the next Johan, then Carlos Herrera, Domingo Robles, and Breiling Eusebio (recovering from TJ) are the guys with the most upside/projection.

Relief pitchers and pitchers in general seem to be the positions that most teams choose.  Seems rare for teams to keep position players unless they have a talent that can used from the bench (i.e great speed, excellent defense).

 

I think Reed could get picked and maybe Navaretto as his a MLB ready defensive catcher.  Unlikely but possible would Wiel and Davis they both have good power but haven't proven themselves at AAA yet so fairlyhigh risk selections. Other than that if were other teams I would pass on the rest.

I think Reed will be gone, Jay is possible to be drafted.  I don't think the rest are that high risk, but it only takes one team to believe in someone.

I'd bet that Jay is picked by someone. Not sure about Reed. He has an Anthony Slama feel to him. No one took him last year either.

Well... That was that  

FWIW here are the results:

 

1. Orioles — Richie Martin, SS (from Athletics)
2. Royals — Sam McWilliams, RHP (from Rays)
3. White Sox — Jordan Romano, RHP (from Blue Jays)
4. Marlins — Riley Ferrell, RHP (from Astros)
5. Tigers — Reed Garrett, RHP (from Rangers)
7. Reds — Connor Joe, C (from Dodgers)
8. Rangers — Chris Ellis, RHP (from Cardinals)
9. Giants — Travis Bergen, LHP (from Blue Jays)
10. Blue Jays — Elvis Luciano, RHP (from Royals)
11. Mets — Kyle Dowdy, RHP (from Indians)
13. Phillies — Drew Jackson, SS (from Dodgers)
15. Diamondbacks — Nick Green, RHP (from Yankees)
19. Mariners — Brandon Brennan, RHP (from Rockies)

39. Giants — Drew Ferguson, OF (from Astros)

Edited December 13, 2018 by Thrylos

It's not over. We still have the minor league portion!

Looks like the front office knew who to add to the 40 man this year.

Looks like the front office knew who to add to the 40 man this year.

Yeah, fair's fair, and I've expressed my qualms over some moves by this FO so they deserve credit here.

 

Looks like the front office knew who to add to the 40 man this year.

Or the players left off just aren't that good?

 

Looks like the front office knew who to add to the 40 man this year.

No. They whiffed on Nick Anderson

Or the players left off just aren't that good?

This. Diaz was a mistake from day one.

I thought someone might take a flyer on Tyler Jay, which wouldn't have been the worst result in the world, other than confirming he was a failed draft pick. but it's good that with as deep a system as we have that no one got picked up, shows that the FO is making some pretty sharp evaluations on guys.

 

Wonder if getting passed over under rule 5 will light a fire under any of these guys?

Twins lukced out. Got to keep guys no one wanted but was better than anyone they might've chosen.

 

My fear was that someone would take Jay and he would blossom into an excellent rookie reliever for someone else next summer.  Now lets hope he proves the Twins and the other 29 teams wrong, and becomes that big surprise for the hometown Twins.  We can dream, can't we?

 

I thought someone might take a flyer on Tyler Jay, which wouldn't have been the worst result in the world, other than confirming he was a failed draft pick. but it's good that with as deep a system as we have that no one got picked up, shows that the FO is making some pretty sharp evaluations on guys.

 

Wonder if getting passed over under rule 5 will light a fire under any of these guys?

I think what it proves is there were no eligibles in the Twins system even worth a AAA shot.

 

Jay will likely be out of baseball within 1.5 yrs.

I would have taken a flyer on Jay if I was a really bad team. Why not?

Still a chance for Cruz?  When was the last real DH we had?  Thome?

I've kind of been asking myself since the end of the draft why no one was taken from the minor league portion. Didn't really think anyone would from the MLB portion... and those that would have been even considered are certainly on the Triple-A roster.

 

Guys who are eligible for the MLB Rule 5 next year would be on the AAA roster this year. So guys like Jorge Alcala, Brusdar Graterol and Wander Javier are certainly on the roster. Guys like Kirlloff and Lewis don't need to be protected yet. Since any high upside guys will be protected on the rosters, you're' really just talking about fillers and then it's' more of a who saw who on what day kind of thing. I mean, the Twins drafted a 28-year-old  who spent most of this year in AA. So, I'm' good with no one being taken in the minor league portion and I don't think it says anything negative about the organization... I don't think... but maybe.

 

Next year might be different because there will be some tough choices. 

If you read that linked BA article, Jay's name is mentioned in a list of "other notables."  A long list.  When you take it in that context, I'm not surprised he wasn't picked.  He's a long ways from being the only "notable" prospect who hasn't panned out.

In the AAA portion, the Twins selected RHP Dustin Knight from the Giants.

To possibly save anyone else from a bit of searching when trying to look him up, his name is spelled with an 'e'. Dusten Knight.

Ok, let me get this straight. The Twins who have one of the top ranked Minor League systems in MLB lost NO PLAYERS in either the Major League or Minor League portion of the 12/13/18 Rule 5 Draft? The San Francisco Giants, ranked as one of the WORST Minor League systems in MLB LOST 3 PLAYERS. Explain.

I know, hindsight and all, but every time I think of Tyler Jay, I think of what could have been with Andrew Benintendi

 

FWIW here are the results:

 

1. Orioles — Richie Martin, SS (from Athletics)
2. Royals — Sam McWilliams, RHP (from Rays)
3. White Sox — Jordan Romano, RHP (from Blue Jays)
4. Marlins — Riley Ferrell, RHP (from Astros)
5. Tigers — Reed Garrett, RHP (from Rangers)
7. Reds — Connor Joe, C (from Dodgers)
8. Rangers — Chris Ellis, RHP (from Cardinals)
9. Giants — Travis Bergen, LHP (from Blue Jays)
10. Blue Jays — Elvis Luciano, RHP (from Royals)
11. Mets — Kyle Dowdy, RHP (from Indians)
13. Phillies — Drew Jackson, SS (from Dodgers)
15. Diamondbacks — Nick Green, RHP (from Yankees)
19. Mariners — Brandon Brennan, RHP (from Rockies)

39. Giants — Drew Ferguson, OF (from Astros)

It says a lot about the real value of the Twins assets.

 

If all these players taken were considered better than what we had, should we have taken one?  Should we resign these players or just let them be free agents and hope they find a home?

It says a lot about the real value of the Twins assets.

 

It's not like I actually know anything, lol, but have to disagree. (I especially never really understood the milb portion of protection but seem to understand those exposed are fringe guys). The best prospects at the high levels are protected on the 40 man. The remaining top prospects are either too young to be eligible, or protected under various rosterings. Again, I'm unfamiliar with all the rules. The milb portion has always been about filler pieces.

 

I am absolutely befuddled, however in regard to Reed. Despite production, and a strong finish to 2018, the Twins didn't look at him, or protect him, and nobody saw fit to draft him. There is obviously something here we are all missing here.

 

In regard to Jay, I wouldn't have been shocked to see some rebuilding team take a flier on him. But injuries and performance really didn't make him a strong consideration. I really doubt he's going to make it at this point. But we have all seen guys who just struggle for various reasons until one day something clicks and the stars line up. Here's hoping he is 100% in 2019 and his arm and arsenal show life and suddenly the Twins have another LH BP arm to work in.