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    Andrew Thares

    One of the first moves the Twins front office made under the Derek Falvey and Thad Levine regime was signing former Houston Astros catcher Jason Castro to a three-year $24.5 million deal. That was a move that paid off well for the Twins over the past three seasons. In 2017, Castro was the Twins primary catcher, and he put up a respectable 2.1 fWAR in 110 games played that season. After missing nearly all of 2018 with a knee injury, Castro had another strong 2019 campaign in a catching role he split 50/50 with Mitch Garver.

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    Though Jason Castro wasn’t near the offensive threat that Mitch Garver has been behind the plate, he is no defensive-only catcher a la Drew Butera. In 2019, Castro posted a 103 wRC+, which ranked 15th out of the 36 catchers with at least 250 plate appearances. Factor that in with Castro’s above average pitch framing ability, and solid all-around defense behind the plate, and you have yourselves a pretty good catcher. Now, at the age of 32, Castro is entering free agency and the Twins suddenly find themselves in need of a catcher to back up Mitch Garver. Let’s take a look at some of the options the Twins have.

    Free Agency

    Perhaps the most obvious place the Twins could look to find the replacement for Jason Castro is on the free agent market. While there won’t be any big-time catchers available in free agency, that is perfectly fine with the Twins as all they need is someone who can be their number two behind Mitch Garver. Some of the names the Twins could be interested in are Robinson Chirinos, Travis d’Arnaud, Alex Avila and Jason Castro himself. Personally, Jason Castro makes the most sense to bring back among this group. The Twins will be looking to replicate the success they had at the catcher position this year, and what better way to do so than by using the same players? While this move would certainly make sense for the Twins, especially on a one- or two- year deal, it is hard to say if it would make a lot of sense for Castro. It is entirely possible that Castro is looking for an opportunity somewhere he could be the primary catching option, and who could blame him? He certainly has the ability to be the primary catcher for roughly half of the organizations in major league baseball, and if he were to return to the Twins, at best he will split time with Garver 50/50, barring an injury.

    Trade Market

    Another option the Twins could turn to in on the trade market. One team the Twins could reach out to is the Seattle Mariners, and their always-very-eager- to- make-a-trade GM Jerry Dipoto. The Mariners have two quality young catchers in Tom Murphy and Omar Narvaez. Murphy has one year remaining before he becomes arbitration eligible in 2021, while Narvaez is eligible for arbitration for the first time this winter. With a few years of team control remaining for each player, the Mariners could have one of two viewpoints. Either, A, hold onto them as part of the future of the organization, or B, cash them in while they can still return good value, and continue to build up their strong farm system. If the answer is B, I think the Twins could make an excellent trade partner for them, given the sheer depth of the Twins farm system, and value that either one of these two catchers would bring to the team.

    Internal Options

    If the Twins don’t find anything they like in either free agency or on the trading block, they could always turn internally. Perhaps the most likely option, if this were the case, would be to give Willians Astudillo extended playing time as a catcher. While this would certainly be a fan favorite choice, it is still a little dicey trusting Astudillo behind the plate that often, especially with his offensive struggles mitigating his ability to make up for his poor defense.

    After Astudillo, their top two catching prospects within the organization are Ryan Jeffers and Ben Rortvedt. While both are solid catching options, they each have only played partial seasons at AA with zero experience at the AAA level. Turning to one of these two to start the season would require a big jump that they might not be quite ready for. A fourth option would be Tomas Telis, who posted an impressive .330/.364/.490 slash line in 82 games for the Rochester Red Wings this season, albeit in the extreme offensive environment that was Triple-A this season. Telis does have brief MLB experience playing for the Texas Rangers and Miami Marlins before he came over to the Twins organization, so he should be ready if the Twins were to call his number.

    While the Twins main focus will certainly be around addressing the starting rotation, filling the hole left by Jason Castro cannot go overlooked. One thing that needs to be at the forefront of the Twins minds when making this decision is in case of an injury, is this a player we trust to step up as the primary Twins catcher in his absence? If that answer is no, they should probably look to an alternative option, to avoid a replay of the 2018 Twins catching situation.

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    Coming off knee surgery, Castro was not to be counted on for any meaningful 2019 contribution at all, according to my off-season plan. Boy was I wrong. I think he's a better bet for 2020 than Astudillo, as a backup, so unless the FO somehow wanted to rely on Telis (I think he's considered average defensively), Plan A for me would be to see if Jason wants to go year to year, the rest of the way in his career.

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    I think Castro can get 2-3 year deal from a non-contending team. If he wants to play for a contender I think he'll have to settle for a 1-2 year deal and probably take on a 50/50 role (Barring injury) like he had this year at best. If he'll take a one year deal I think he'll stay in Minnesota. Otherwise I'd like to see the Twins spend the money on pitching.

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    How good is Tellis behind the plate?

     

    If he's decent, you start the season with him as a back-up -- you always have Willians in the background -- but then you look at which one of Rortvedt or Jeffers is a better fit at mid-season.

     

    Sounds like Rortvedt is a defensive stud.

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    A agree Castro was OK in 2019. I find it amusing though when comparing the Turtle to Castro offensively..that they feel Castro was the better hitter? Really? Defensively, Castro is better but its not like Turtle cost the Twins games when he caught. There is a decided anti Turtle bias on this site.

     

    I think they should retain Astudillo as an all around backup to play many positions. Utility players are hard to find like that. Telis had an excellent season at AAA. Better than expected. He is not a defensive liability and should be give a shot. He can also hit...even in the so called AAA offensive environment. (He is not a HR hitter and it was HR's that ballooned in AAA this year) Sawyer is also serviceable.

     

    Twins would not suffer if they brought Castro back. Give Garver a bit more playing time and spot Castro...and occasionally Astudillo. That should work fine.

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    A agree Castro was OK in 2019. I find it amusing though when comparing the Turtle to Castro offensively..that they feel Castro was the better hitter? Really? Defensively, Castro is better but its not like Turtle cost the Twins games when he caught. There is a decided anti Turtle bias on this site.

     

    I think they should retain Astudillo as an all around backup to play many positions. Utility players are hard to find like that. Telis had an excellent season at AAA. Better than expected. He is not a defensive liability and should be give a shot. He can also hit...even in the so called AAA offensive environment. (He is not a HR hitter and it was HR's that ballooned in AAA this year) Sawyer is also serviceable.

     

    Twins would not suffer if they brought Castro back. Give Garver a bit more playing time and spot Castro...and occasionally Astudillo. That should work fine.

    people feel Castro was the better hitter because Castro had both a higher OBP and a higher SLG.

     

    If there's a bias, IMO it's a bias towards Astudillo, not against him.

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    I think Castro's future is like Suzuki's (and most league average veteran catchers). A series of 1-2 year deals.

     

    I'm curious what the Twins will do. I think Garver is a lock as a 60% starter at minimum. I also think Austudillo's future is as a utility player and 3rd catcher. It would be nice to get a defensive specialist who can hit at Castro's level and mentor Garver.

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    My hope is they replace Castro with... Jason Castro. It's imperative to have a solid backup to split time with Garver, or take over full time if injuries play out that way.

     

    We seem to forget that Garver has a history of concussions and one more foul tip to the dome could force him out of the position.

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    My hope is they replace Castro with... Jason Castro. It's imperative to have a solid backup to split time with Garver, or take over full time if injuries play out that way.

     

    We seem to forget that Garver has a history of concussions and one more foul tip to the dome could force him out of the position.

    Agree. But if they roll the dice on a different veteran, with the plan for Rortverdt and, or, Jeffers, to be up at some point, I'm ok with that. Not thrilled, but ok.

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    My hope is they replace Castro with... Jason Castro. It's imperative to have a solid backup to split time with Garver, or take over full time if injuries play out that way.

    We seem to forget that Garver has a history of concussions and one more foul tip to the dome could force him out of the position.

     

    Concur. If I'm the GM, he gets a choice of two years at the price my guys say he's worth on the market, or a one year deal at a premium rate at the top end of what he's worth. I give his agent a deadline to decide among those two or Door # it's been real bye bye. 

     

    If Jeffers or Rortvedt look to be an upgrade by the end of next season, I trade Castro and hope for one of those Drew Butera-Miguel Sulbaran-Eduardo Nunez-Adalberto Mejia thingies.

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    Above, I mentioned a 1-year offer to Jason, but after reviewing Kurt Suzuki's 2-year contract in his mid-30s, maybe I soften a bit on that limitation. But I still like the idea of vesting options (perhaps problematic for a backup) or team-options with a bit more significant buyout than normal (maybe there's a reason they're not common). "Play for us for $4M this year, and give us a team-option for $4M next year too. As protection against a catastrophic injury, that option includes a 25% buyout for you. $5M for sure, possible $8M. And if another team is willing to guarantee more, God bless you and good luck, we've enjoyed having you here." Maybe that's a bit light, but I don't think I'd go up too much more.

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    I think a 2 year 12 million is what he is worth. If he can get 550-650 PA during the 2 years, wouldn't be too far off if he was starting somewhere else. 750-850. Plus the lighter load may allow him to go an extra year or two. He has already made close to 40 million for his career and a 2 year deal will push him past 50. Also with the Twins likely going to the playoffs that has to be a factor to consider. If I were him, I would at least be interested in a 40-50% playing time here on a 2 year deal if the money was right.

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    I agree, but I tried to get a different answer.....

     

    mike sixel
    2:17 I know players usually take the most money, but should Jason Castro take a bit less to stay in MN, since he'll likely play less than elsewhere, and keep his body more healthy? Or is that 100% backward, and he should go where he plays more and gets more money?

    Craig Edwards
    2:17 I think he would probably just like to play more and get paid more and presumably the team that offers him the most money plans to do so.

     

    https://blogs.fangraphs.com/craig-edwards-fangraphs-chat-10-24-2019/

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    I would love to bring in Tyler Flowers as a defensive minded backup. He led the league in extra pitch framing strikes, and could help Garver improve even more. Another good way to go (brought up to me by Tom) would be to just go get either of the Astros catchers because they know the Houston secrets to success.

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    I would love to bring in Tyler Flowers as a defensive minded backup. He led the league in extra pitch framing strikes, and could help Garver improve even more. Another good way to go (brought up to me by Tom) would be to just go get either of the Astros catchers because they know the Houston secrets to success.

    I would too, but I left him off the list because I find it hard to believe that the Braves don't pick up the $6 million option for 2020. Especially when you consider the buyout is $2 million and they are already losing another catcher in Brain McCann to retirement. 

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    I would too, but I left him off the list because I find it hard to believe that the Braves don't pick up the $6 million option for 2020. Especially when you consider the buyout is $2 million and they are already losing another catcher in Brain McCann to retirement. 

    See, this is what I get for not doing my homework. :) My rinky-dink offer to Castro, up-thread, isn't even trend-setting in terms of percentage of buyout, and is light in terms of total 2-year dollars for a thirty-something catcher who seems to be sound.

     

    The Twins need to be pretty sure Telis could do the job, before parting ways with Castro, and maybe the lack of a September callup (and 40-man add) is telling. Just pay Castro Flowers-type money, if they have concerns about getting caught short for 2020.

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    I still love the thought of not signing Cron or Castro and instead signing Yasmani Grandel. Garver could play first as could Grandel as could Sano. Third base could ve covered by a combination of players currently on the roster. But....i suppose the money is better spent on pitching

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    Going to say some things here that sound contradictory, but bear with my points.

     

    With some, and against some, I am a huge fan of Astudillo, and not just because he is fun. FO, manager, coaches, teammates all love him for so many reasons. But that is not enough of a reason to keep him. And while nothing special, at all, defensively, the guy is a gamer and solid wherever you play him. And despite some late season flailing at outside pitches that made him look bad, the guy can hit.

     

    NOT exactly, but for intent and purpose, he was virtually a late blooming rookie coming off of his 2018 performance. He hit before he got hurt. When he came back, he struggled a bit, then got in a nice groove, then got hurt again after his wall collision. Just never looked the same after that on his return, IMO. I think he is a very useful and versatile player who can hit, hit well, and produce when used in a semi-regular basis. I also think he's a pretty decent catcher. In fact, I'm not so sure he couldn't be a he'll of a backup backstop option. But I don't feel comfortable, at this point, as the primary option.

     

    I don't know that Castro is "special", but I think he is undersold as a presence to the staff and the team. Is it just co-incidence the team was better in '17 and '19 when available? Maybe.

     

    For reasons I just don't understand, I've always felt the catcher position in baseball bas always been underrated.

     

    Castro will be 32 to start next season. He had a nice and productive season as a roughly 50/50 backstop coming off knee surgery. Is there a team who will look at age and 2019 and decide he can play 120 games? As someone else pointed out...too tired to remember and look back...would it be a competitive team? Or will his market prove dry?

     

    Best of luck to him if he can find a really nice multi year deal. But I am betting a deal with the Twins for $4-6M for a year, maybe 2, and a chance to win, being something like a 40/60 backstop trumps anything else he finds. And it makes so much sense for both sides.

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    The nice thing is that both Rortvedt and Jeffers WILL be Twins at some point. They both will be able to ride the 40-man roster for the next 3-4 years without regular play, but if they do play, BOTH should have a good knowledge of working with the Twins of the future.

     

    The question is how long is Garver behind-the-plate, and for how many games. I don't see Garver catching up to 130 games, ptherwise we could go with Willians as the main abckup with a depth guy in case of injury in the minors.

     

    Next year the Twins will be able to carry 13 pitchers and 13 hitters, so four guys on the bench (back up catcher, back up infielder, back up outfielder, all-around-guy). 

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    Castro would be the logical choice but the other free agent catchers can all hit in case Garver falters offensively. Castro makes the pitchers better so I hope they can keep him. I wouldn't trade unless we don't give up much. We may need to trade for pitching. 

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    If the Twins are confident enough in Astudillo’s defense at catcher I would go with him.

     

    I would use him against those high strike out pitchers that don’t give up a lot of contact. That game changing pinch hit against Matt Barnes still sits with me. It didn’t make sense until I realized the one thing the Twins needed the most in that at bat was a ball in play.

     

    Stick with Astudillo and put the resources elsewhere.

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    Astudillo's OBP is lower than most because he doesn't walk. But he also doesn't 'k' and that is something this team really needs. He's not a #1...but it would be hard to find someone as a utility that would be better, for the price. Castro tailed off badly the last month. He didn't hit at all, which kinda skews his offensive numbers. He fanned a ton.

     

    Given all the 'choices', I would like to see him as the backup catcher. Give Garver a few more starts, if he is healthy. Use Turtle as the 3rd catcher, but also as a spare IF/OF if necessary. Telis was Rochester's best hitter overall (not for power but for average and reaching base in tight spots) Twins should give him a look.

     

    I thought Twins should try and get Hicks back instead of Cave...but Hicks is undergoing TJ surgery...so he;s done probably for the season. So scratch that.

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