Gut Punch! Carlos Correa Signs with the Giants

If rumors we heard of offers Twins made, then it sounds like Falvine made a competitive offer and effort to get him.  13 years is just ludicrous...for anyone.  We'll see how the FO pivots from here.  Is it Rodon?  No way Swanson comes here.  I guess it's Kyle Farmer season at SS until Lewis is ready?

Well as a Twins fan it’s always hard to hold out hope they will sign big names or make big trades. However this time we offered him big money. Giants just came out with a ridiculous contract which will come back to haunt them… I do like how he held out however as that money we could have spent on him can now be used on a much needed position. Starting Pitching… Carlos Rodon to the Twins???

If you saw it coming 330 days ago, can you still call it a gut-punch?

If I ever see a Christian Dior store I’ll just go in and pretend I can afford whatever I want. 

Well, the Twins did do $105 for 3 years with an opt out. Looks like they were willing to continue that price for up to...9 years!?!

Let's spend money mroe wisely. But shows the Twins would not be afraid to spend $30m on the...right...player.

2 minutes ago, jkcarew said:

If you saw it coming 330 days ago, can you still call it a gut-punch?

Yeah, it always felt like that.  I wanted CC a lot, but it’s not like I can forget how worthless he was at the plate when we really needed him. September just felt like garbage time in an NFL game.

Swanson would still be a great pickup.  A Farmer solution feels like a just a placeholder waiting on a good, but risky, bet.

Without CC or Swanson, I’m not sure it makes sense to break the bank on the other Carlos. We need to face facts: we really weren’t that competitive with CC and the lineup we are projecting without him is not an upgrade.  We were realistically in somewhat of a rebuild anyway for the next year or two and now that is even more true.  Rodon will not lead us to the promised land any more than CC would have.

Nope, it’s probably time to implement that time honored small/mid market strategy - build up a young solid core at bargain rates and then splurge a bit when the window looks like it is opening. Sad, but that’s the reality of being a franchise like the Twins in a non-salary cap league.

I’m…lost. Idk where the Twins move from this, you needed a high-end SS to bat 3rd in your lineup, and they swung and missed on Correa, Bogaerts and Turner. To be fair, the deals they sign were seemingly ludicrous, and I don’t blame the FO for not spending $280m+ on a single player (especially for those years oh my god). This team is gonna need leadership, and an Injury-Prone Buxton ain’t gonna do it. Now the question just sinks in: where now?

2 minutes ago, Hosken Bombo Disco said:

Dodged a bullet, though not for lack of trying. Lewis or Lee will be putting up fairly comparable numbers in a few years. 

Agree 100%. Both will be; Julien as well. 

27 minutes ago, HerbieFan said:

If rumors we heard of offers Twins made, then it sounds like Falvine made a competitive offer and effort to get him.  13 years is just ludicrous...for anyone.  We'll see how the FO pivots from here.  Is it Rodon?  No way Swanson comes here.  I guess it's Kyle Farmer season at SS until Lewis is ready?

Heyman said the Twins offered 285/10. Theoretically competitive, but realistically had no shot. I personally wouldnt have given Correa 13 years, but I would have offered him 315/10.

For a little perspective, Rod Carew played 12 seasons for the Twins, Kirby Puckett played his whole career, 12 seasons, for the Twins, and Joe Mauer played his whole career, 15 seasons, for the Twins. Correa has already played 8 seasons and has an injury history attached to him, don't see this contract as being very team friendly in about 5 years.

9 minutes ago, ashbury said:

The 13 years is nearly irrelevant. Total contract value is almost always the name of the game, and the Twins come up well short if they offered under $300M with player opt-outs as the sweetener.  The Giants will release Correa well before 13 years and just treat the remaining payments as deferred salary for the good years they actually got.

"They tried," and almost surely knew it wouldn't be close to enough.

Right on the money. Their 285 million offer shows that they weren’t serious. 

Yeah, this isn't merely a case of the haves beating out the have-nots, this is an absurdly long contract which could very well include more bad years than good. I feel like this deal would be controversial in Minnesota from the get-go. Long live Lewis, long live Lee. Thank you Farmer or maybe Swanson for being the bridge through hopefully only a few mediocre years.

27 minutes ago, jkcarew said:

If you saw it coming 330 days ago, can you still call it a gut-punch?

You saw a 13 year deal from another team coming last spring?? How did you not win the $$ Billion powerball??

OK..goodbye CC. OK with KF at SS till Lee-Lewis appear at The Show.

Now, lets see what the Twins FO do with the cash pile still available?

Who owns the Giants and where do they get the DaNang?

Well, the Yankees are supposedly interested in Kepler, maybe the Twins get Kiner-Falefa back and 1 or 2 young P's in return.

Also think we see Arraez as part of a deal for Lopez at this point.

The Twins could have gone to 11 years and 305-310 but going beyond that was too much.  The Giants lost out on several players and had to make something happen.  This move for them reeks of desperation and hope for high inflation to lower that contract in the last 3-5 years.

Also we should go get Elvis Andrus on a 1 or 2 year deal.  I don’t want Swanson at more than 8/160.  I am fine with waiting on LEwis/Lee at SS.

5 minutes ago, mnfireman said:

Well, the Yankees are supposedly interested in Kepler, maybe the Twins get Kiner-Falefa back and 1 or 2 young P's in return.

Also think we see Arraez as part of a deal for Lopez at this point.

Disagree. Arraez is basically the face of the franchise right now (sorry 100 game Buxton).  He’s not being traded. 

I think this is going to be one of those blessings in disguise.  I think the Twins should bide their time, go with Farmer as a stopgap until Lee or our twice cursed #1 pick a few years back are ready to take over.  In the meantime, try to get a good right handed batting outfielder, and maybe a starting pitcher not named Rodon.  No insane contracts, please!

I really liked CC but 13 year/$350mm is crazy talk....I am so glad we dodged this bullet. I'm going to sleep like a baby tonight and wait for Lewis or Lee to arrive.

To Correa: Congratulations! Enjoy the financial freedom!

To the Giants: Caveat Emptor!

I am just so relieved to hear that he will finally be able to give his family a good life. 

Can't wait for all the things he says about how great the Bay Area is.  Hopefully he can buy a mansion near a Dior store.

I don’t feel any player is worth that much money so I was relieved that he signed with the giants. Now my hope is the money the we’re prepared to spend on Carlos, could go towards  both Swanson and Rodon. I would say that would be a greater value to the club than just Carlos. Now we know the management was willing to go that high, we should expect a concerted effort to go after them before they get signed elsewhere. 

I hope the FO wasn't really waiting on Correa for any additional moves. Being unwilling to go to $300mil in this market leaves you on the outside looking in.