5 Former Twins on the Trade Block

if none of these fits are better than medium why are we talking about them

I agree with your assessments, though Escobar has a team friendly contract, brings intangible values, and lifts the bench floor.  He would be a fit here. 

No, I've always liked Escobar, but what we need is a better SS, which puts Farmer as utility. It's too late for Falefa after we got Farmer

Dealing with CWS will be a hassle for Hendricks

No way the others

FAs are a different story, I'm all in to sign Rogers, Fulmer & Cruz.

Escobar wouldn’t be a bad get, he’s not too expensive and is a better 3B option than Miranda

Always like Esco and hated that we traded him, even though Duran was one of the players we got back for him. That turned out ok. Wouldn't mind him back. Hendriks would be a decent get, but there's no way that the Sox trade him to us. The other guys...fuggettaboutit. 

I have always liked Escobar, but I don't see the logic in trading for him after they basically gave away Gio. 

There’s a good fit for Escobar in. Boston as Story slides over to SS from a now open 2B.

Same old. Down to stems and seeds again. 

Never go backward.  If bringing the old gang back again is the best thing you can think of to get fan interest you have already lost. 

You could do worse than IKF at SS and allow Farmer to be a super utility guy, but why trade for him instead of a possible 1yr deal for a similar player in Iglesias? For that matter, how about a 1yr deal with an option and $1M buyout on an Andrus gamble that the return of his bat in 2022 wasn't a 1 shot deal?

I don't think I see a fit.

Escobar still has value as a utility player and solid bat with some power. But he'd have to come cheap otherwise, roll with what you have I guess. Are there FA options at utility that are worth anything? I'd have to go looking at the list of available again, but not sure there's much left there of interest.

Everything else is a no.

Looks like Garlick is going to be our RH role playing OF after Myers was signed to a cheap deal. Ugh!

5 hours ago, MTV said:

Escobar wouldn’t be a bad get, he’s not too expensive and is a better 3B option than Miranda

He would be a better option if he was still the player he was when he left. He is not

I think the Twins should trade for all 3 players from the Yankees. The catch is there has to be a low level prospect for each year of a contract.   If people think this current team is so bad they might as well rebuild through the minors

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Minnesota could use more depth at shortstop, but he might not be an upgrade over Kyle Farmer. 

If Kyle Farmer is as good as people are saying he is, why did he only cost a non-top 30 prospect to acquire while IFK cost Mitch Garver?

12 hours ago, LewFordLives said:

I have always liked Escobar, but I don't see the logic in trading for him after they basically gave away Gio. 

Exactly what I was going to post.   Also, give Miranda his shot at 3B if that is the actual plan and see what happens.

"Escobar was a joy when he was with the Twins, but the team doesn’t have a clear need for a utility player."

That is pretty close to heresy on this team.  We crave UTL players.  We turn regulars into UTL players to spread around at bats.  A reasonably priced UTL player falls back into our lap, and we are debating it? 

And if you are taking this seriously, feel free to yell at me.  I won't hold it against you. ? 
 

This is funny. Funny how washed up players, (outside of Hendriks) get the attention on this site. Sure, Hicks would be a great addition. He fits every thing the Twins like about a player. Plays part-time, can't hit and only cost roughly $10M per season. He'd be a better deal than Gallo at $11M and you can throw that money away for 3 years instead of just one. Perfect! Maybe, just maybe, don't hold your breath, someday the FO will figure out that if you spend all of the money you throw at 2 worthless players and use it to get 1 good player you'll be much better off. For instance, Kepler is getting $8.5M in 2023 and Gallo will get $11M. Just imagine the type of player they could get if they used that $19.5M on 1 player, It might actually be a player that can hit!

17 hours ago, MTV said:

Escobar wouldn’t be a bad get, he’s not too expensive and is a better 3B option than Miranda

Dealing away Urshela and aquiring Escobar would be a weird lateral move.

2 hours ago, solomon1930 said:

Exactly what I was going to post.   Also, give Miranda his shot at 3B if that is the actual plan and see what happens.

 

Yeah, although I think they need another utility type for depth. There needs to be a plan B if Miranda struggles.

Correa SIGNED with the Mets?

Is this article really asking about former Twins players, most past any prime they may have had, coming back? This team either gave up on these guys or delt them away when we couldn't use them anymore.

Just because this FO doesn't know how to multi-task, and work with more than one FA at a time; does not mean we should sign past the prime players no other team wants, just because they used to be a Twin...

Remember the past Twins reunions?   In 2014 Kare 11 reported "The Minnesota Twins have agreed to minor league contracts with former outfielders Joe Benson and Darin Mastroianni"  Torii Hunter gave us a nice return,  You might remember other ex-twins that were on the spring training roster and thankfully did not make the regular season rosters. 

Very seldom does a returning player bring back what they had when they left. 

http://Former Twins return playing for other teams - I know you want some players back, but when they come back it is not at their peak value.  Mostly they are a reminder that sometimes it is better to keep rather than bring back. 

18 hours ago, MTV said:

Escobar wouldn’t be a bad get, he’s not too expensive and is a better 3B option than Miranda

Escobar at $9 million per year for 2 years - 25 points less batting average & same power, couple years older than what we traded in Urshella. Same salary. Why?

Freed salary to sign impact guys & to let Miranda have a place to develop. As much power as Urshella or Escobar. He has a ceiling at 3rd but he’s not a butcher - needs more regular time……2-3 more years at $700K!!! Harmon Killebrew played third base off & on over a number of years…….

Sign some pitching help!

Trading for guys that are washed makes no sense & Escobar is the only 1 of 5 here that even makes one stop & think.

3 hours ago, JD-TWINS said:

Escobar at $9 million per year for 2 years - 25 points less batting average & same power, couple years older than what we traded in Urshella. Same salary. Why?

Freed salary to sign impact guys & to let Miranda have a place to develop. As much power as Urshella or Escobar. He has a ceiling at 3rd but he’s not a butcher - needs more regular time……2-3 more years at $700K!!! Harmon Killebrew played third base off & on over a number of years…….

Sign some pitching help!

Trading for guys that are washed makes no sense & Escobar is the only 1 of 5 here that even makes one stop & think.

 

I think that Esco would be more than a lateral move & an improvement over Urshela. He's among the best switch hitters and has more power. A lot of fans were disappointed when he was traded, and he wasn't able to team up with Polanco. Now if that opportunity exists it become a spark to produce something greater than the sum of its parts. I don't thoroughly trust Miranda playing 3B nor Kirilloff making a total enough recovery to play 1B without proof. Esco has an option so it could only be for one year. Esco  is a versatile player who hustles on the base paths with more speed than Urshela. I think that both Esco & many fans would get a charge if he returned to the Twins. As long as the fans like him and respect him. And the Twins would be saving money overall if they trade Kepler. So there would be some upside. I think that it would be a good idea to sign Esco if the Twins are going to trade Kepler anyway. A switch hitter with power is beneficial and could mesh well with Polanco.

I don't think I'd trade anything for Escobar.  But I mean if he was given away I'd probably be fine with him.  Now I know a lot of people are talking about lateral movement here, but I think when the twins traded away Gio, I believe that they thought they'd get Correa back.  So that would have put Farmer in as the Utility player.  Now that it looks as though Farmer is probably the starter, keeping Miranda at 3rd and having Escobar as the Utility seems like it would be a decent fit.  But again like I said I wouldn't give them anything for him.  I mean the Twins probably need to reconsider doing a rebuild at this point in time.  Especially if they struggle this season they probably will have to trade gray, mahle, maeda, gallo, Kepler, polanco and whoever else at the deadline so as to start over.  So no point in trading any prospects for an Escobar at this point in time.   

20 hours ago, sun said:

I think that Esco would be more than a lateral move & an improvement over Urshela. He's among the best switch hitters and has more power. A lot of fans were disappointed when he was traded, and he wasn't able to team up with Polanco. Now if that opportunity exists it become a spark to produce something greater than the sum of its parts. I don't thoroughly trust Miranda playing 3B nor Kirilloff making a total enough recovery to play 1B without proof. Esco has an option so it could only be for one year. Esco  is a versatile player who hustles on the base paths with more speed than Urshela. I think that both Esco & many fans would get a charge if he returned to the Twins. As long as the fans like him and respect him. And the Twins would be saving money overall if they trade Kepler. So there would be some upside. I think that it would be a good idea to sign Esco if the Twins are going to trade Kepler anyway. A switch hitter with power is beneficial and could mesh well with Polanco.

Miranda is our 3B in 2023, period. No trades happening to change that! Nobody trades Urshella with Miranda needing a position to then seek another third baseman.

Maybe sign Evan Longoria for $5 million as a depth piece at 3rd and a right handed DH alternative. Good experience and leader by example in clubhouse at 37?