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    Nick Nelson

    Every year at least one player ends up making the Minnesota Twins 25-man roster out of spring training that few expected to do so at the outset of camp.

    Let's examine a few of the top candidates among this year's non-roster invite group to latch on, and what kinds of roles they might play.

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    There are a number of NRIs who stand a good chance of making the team and shouldn't really be viewed as "sleepers" per se. For instance, I would say Chris Gimenez is the favorite to win the backup catcher job, and Craig Breslow probably has better than a 50/50 shot at making the bullpen, provided his experimentations prove fruitful. ByungHo Park is hardly under the radar, especially after his hot start.

    The four names below are relative long shots, but any could force his way into the picture by making the right impressions over the coming month.

    Drew Stubbs, OF

    The 32-year-old brings with him plenty of experience, which is something Paul Molitor and the front office have openly coveted. Stubbs has piled up more than 3,000 plate appearances in the majors, contributing to multiple playoff teams. Even though he batted .195 during brief stints with the Rangers, Thad Levine liked what he saw enough to go get him.

    As a strikeout-prone power hitter, his offensive profile is a bit redundant. But if the Twins want to add some veteran balance on an offensive unit that projects six regulars 26 and under, carrying Stubbs over Danny Santana might be the best way to do it. Much will depend on how Stubbs looks in the field; a team carrying Robbie Grossman as fourth outfielder can't afford another defensive liability as the fifth.

    J.B. Shuck, OF

    Another vet angling to overtake a very vulnerable Santana. Shuck faces longer odds than Stubbs, to be sure, but could gain an edge if he's clearly better with the glove. A low-power contact hitter in the Piranha mold, he hasn't produced in the big leagues but had a .380 OBP in the minors.

    Shuck has all the traits of a solid final bench guy, and would complement the slow-footed Grossman well in the outfield reserves.

    Ben Paulsen, 1B

    During his first two seasons in Colorado, Paulsen batted .284 with an .809 OPS. Good production, and the type that Minnesota would love to get at the DH spot. Unfortunately, it was a small sample (420 PA) buoyed by hitter-friendly Coors Field and tainted by poor plate discipline.

    Last year, the bottom fell out and Paulsen spent much of the summer in Triple-A. This spring he would need to significantly outshine both Park and Kennys Vargas, as he undoubtedly enters camp trailing both. Swinging from the same side as starting first baseman Joe Mauer also works against him.

    Still, Paulsen does have some things working for him: he's still fairly young (29) but has logged more MLB time – with better overall numbers – than either Vargas or Park. The message coming into this camp has been clear: nothing is being handed to anyone. Therein lies Paulsen's advantage.

    Ryan Vogelsong, RHP

    There are some people in the know who tell me Vogelsong is an odds on favorite to make the roster as long as he holds his own this spring. I'm not sure I really understand that, but his appeal is apparent enough. The righty has been around the block, with nearly 300 appearances in the majors since debuting all the way back in 2000.

    Vogelsong experienced a late-career renaissance, making his first All-Star team at age 33 and then following with another quality season. But he hasn't been good in four years and is about to turn 40, with almost every measurable trending the wrong way.

    It sounds like the Twins value the veteran for more than simply his production. Commending Vogelsong's leadership, assistant GM Rob Antony said shortly after the signing: "I think he communicates well with the younger pitchers and tries to help them. From all accounts, he’s got really, really good makeup.”

    A later quote from Antony seems to tell the story: “He could give some of our younger guys more time to develop if they’re not ready.”

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    Hey wait a minute...I just noticed something about all these posts.... Why am I the only one who has "0 warning points" printed under my name? Are you trying o tell me something?

     

    You see 0 Warning Points under your name?

    Why do we all see 174 Warning Points under your name?

     

    If you really had 0 Warning Points you wouldn't even see a Warning Points field.  :)

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    I suppose if one of Rosario, Buxton or Kepler is injured we could see Stubbs coming in as a regular OF. We really don’t have anyone other than Palka that is close and he is no guarantee. Maybe Granite. That would be fun.

    As far as this line of ‘we need a veteran presence’, it worked for Terry Ryan so Falvey and Levine decided they’d use it, too. It stands for, ‘we didn’t sign anyone who would be very good because those guys are expensive, but look who was still available in February!’

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    Hey wait a minute...I just noticed something about all these posts.... Why am I the only one who has "0 warning points" printed under my name? Are you trying o tell me something?

    This is covered in the TD Comments Policy. If you haven't already done so, please read the full policy; but warning points are explained in this portion near the bottom:

     

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    Everyone wants to see the youngsters take over, I just hope that they're okay with another 100 loss season.  Not that these 35+ year old vets are shut down pitchers by any means, but these kids have shown NOTHING yet.  Duffy wouldn't pitch for any other mlb team.  It's truly sad that we have to debate which of these guys needs to be on the roster.  I'll take a chance and say that they will have all seen time by June.  

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    I may be naive about this issue, but I have always understood that one of the supposed advantages of having a manager who was a Hall of Fame player is that HE can provide motivation and leadership.

    Well, let's just say I'm not totally enamored with Mr. Molitor as a manager. My comment is as much a knock against as it is an observation.

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    This is covered in the TD Comments Policy. If you haven't already done so, please read the full policy; but warning points are explained in this portion near the bottom:

     

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    Stubbs and Shuck address that embarrassing blush from the fanbase when we must turn to Grossman as a late-inning defensive replacement.  

    Has Grossman ever been a late inning defensive replacement?

     

    I'll be interested if the Twins bother to carry a traditional 5th OF or if they use an IF as an emergency version. Gone are the days of a plodding Delmon Young or Josh Willingham who you wanted to replace in the field when you lead going into the 8th. Our three starters profile as our three best defensive OFs. The future is now.

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    Right now, today, only a few games played, I'm not all that worried about a roster filled with a plethora of mid to late 30yo FA invites. These guys are not on the Twins 40 man, or anyone else's, for that matter, for a reason. And the TWINS are not the only team to bring in such players to camp every year, we're simply focused on the Twins. Every team brings in a bunch of guys like this for game depth in the spring, to help fill the AAA roster, and because you sometimes find a useful piece or two to be the 24th-25th man on your roster until someone better is available/ready.

     

    Despite the rebuild and general youth movement taking place, to say there aren't holes in the roster, or that every prospect on the 40 man is ready for the majors is a bit naive. Is there room borderline a Breslow until Melotakis is ready? Yes. Is there room for a 4th OF so that Granite can play everyday at Rochester for now? Again, yes.

     

    Even if a couple of guys do make the club, it doesn't mean they are permanent fixtures by any means.

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    Right now, today, only a few games played, I'm not all that worried about a roster filled with a plethora of mid to late 30yo FA invites. These guys are not on the Twins 40 man, or anyone else's, for that matter, for a reason. And the TWINS are not the only team to bring in such players to camp every year, we're simply focused on the Twins. Every team brings in a bunch of guys like this for game depth in the spring, to help fill the AAA roster, and because you sometimes find a useful piece or two to be the 24th-25th man on your roster until someone better is available/ready.

    Despite the rebuild and general youth movement taking place, to say there aren't holes in the roster, or that every prospect on the 40 man is ready for the majors is a bit naive. Is there room borderline a Breslow until Melotakis is ready? Yes. Is there room for a 4th OF so that Granite can play everyday at Rochester for now? Again, yes.

    Even if a couple of guys do make the club, it doesn't mean they are permanent fixtures by any means.

     

    I read this same quote last year. And really only Berrios and Chargois came up. And it's possible one (or both?) of those won't start in MN this year. When do they actually go young? What does ready mean, exactly, because I read all the time we should not expect rookies to be good right away?

     

    Why should I want to see a bad RP or bad SP start, and not see Melotakis or Berrios? Frank Viola wasn't ready his first year or two, but they developed him in the majors. Why not do that with Berrios or some RPs?

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    Right now, today, only a few games played, I'm not all that worried about a roster filled with a plethora of mid to late 30yo FA invites. These guys are not on the Twins 40 man, or anyone else's, for that matter, for a reason. And the TWINS are not the only team to bring in such players to camp every year, we're simply focused on the Twins. Every team brings in a bunch of guys like this for game depth in the spring, to help fill the AAA roster, and because you sometimes find a useful piece or two to be the 24th-25th man on your roster until someone better is available/ready.

     

    Despite the rebuild and general youth movement taking place, to say there aren't holes in the roster, or that every prospect on the 40 man is ready for the majors is a bit naive. Is there room borderline a Breslow until Melotakis is ready? Yes. Is there room for a 4th OF so that Granite can play everyday at Rochester for now? Again, yes.

     

    Even if a couple of guys do make the club, it doesn't mean they are permanent fixtures by any means.

    Other teams also bring in some younger bounce back guys, change of scenery former prospects, etc.

     

    It's a little weird that there are rumblings that the Twins have basically lined up 4 low-upside old guys (Belisle, Breslow, Gimenez, and Vogelsong) to all grab roster spots this spring.

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