6 Potential Non-Roster September Call-ups Who Could Impact Games

I don’t think O’Rourke would have been acquired if there wasn’t a plan to use him.

 

I also wouldn’t bank on Kohl Stewart coming up. He’s not very good. He’s more likely to be DFA to make room for someone else.

The problem is the Twins have ONE space on the 40-man roster.

 

Of course, they could move Buxton to the 60-day. Looks like Astulido and Wade are both in rehad and could be brought back. They will end the month with an option to Rochester but could be expanded to the major league roster come September 1.

 

Astulido is a surefire add. He is the third catcher. He will remain as the second catcher once Castro goes into free agency.

 

Wade could be up-in-the-air. Would you swap out de Aza or Miller for him right now? Of course, if Eddie is disabled, you need anotehr outfielder.

 

The Twns also have infieler Gordon out there, taking up IL space with Rooker and Haley. I doubt that the Twins would cut loose Gordon. But, sadly, he is missing an opporunity to play and may not be in the pecking order. But he will hold his 40-man spot.

 

The Twins should definitely promoto Smeltzer, Stashak, Stewart and Littell. They MAY NOT do Stewart. But if they don't, it tells you where he is in the Twins organizations eyes. The Twins have to make a decision on Romero and Hildenberger, both who could be promoted. If not, again, we will see thatthey have lost standing in the organization. Could eitehr be cut from the 40-man roster now?

 

Gonsalves needs to pitch. Do you bring him up as an occasional arm in September to give him a few innings? Or has he, too, fallen off the radar...becoming a question mark for a 40-man spot. Seems the Twins wouldn't part ways with him...yet.

 

Poppen is currently on the IL. Along with Dobnak, both could sit out September and come in strong, looking to fulfill some role in 2020. The Twins suddenly have A LOT of similar arms and have to make some longer-term decisions.

 

They have one spot, basically, to add a player. Do they go with the youth and speed of Graterol, or worry more about keeping him in the system and off the 40-man for the proper amount of time. 

 

Can Ryan O'Rourke shine shine shine and become the situational lefty, albeit NOT keeping a 40-man spot no matter how well he pitches, sadly, in the short term.

 

Oh, of course, they have Marcus Diplan holding down a spot. Who? 

 

With Gibson, Odorizzi, Pineda, Romo, Castro, Schoop opening up six spots...we see the Twins with 4 players (Cave, Astulido, Wade, Gordon) with the bat, and a whole host of pitchers that are worth keeping (Smeltzer, Stashak, Stewart, Littell, Gonsalves, Poppen, Dobnak, Romero, Hildenberger. Thorpe). That's 1/4th of the roster with basically unproven arms. I'm sure if anyone of them was waived off the 40-man, another team would grab them for their own 40-man. 

 

But the Twins can use the pitching, with starters making five innings at most. They actually have a logjam in the batting order, needing to play Gonzalez and Arraez every game, Cave coming back strong, Adrianza needing time in the field. Buxton and Rosario hurt could be tragic, but right now the Twins have an abundance of rich bats.

 

I see them keeping Thorpe, adding Littell, Smeltzer, Stewart, Stashak, Romero, plus Astulido. I do picture them swapping out Wade and losing him, and adding O'Rourke, although it just might be for the end of this month to see how he does in 2-3 games...so we could still see Graterol. Of course, Diplan could also be swapped out and...surprise...a 100 mph arm added for September. 

I wouldn’t bank on Astudillo being the primary back up catcher next year. A veteran FA is more likely, maybe even Castro.

 

I just don’t get the impression that the FO (or Baldelli) are very high on him.

 

I wouldn’t bank on Astudillo being the primary back up catcher next year. A veteran FA is more likely, maybe even Castro.

I just don’t get the impression that the FO (or Baldelli) are very high on him.

No more turtle mascot. We got rally squirrel!!!

 

I wouldn’t bank on Astudillo being the primary back up catcher next year. A veteran FA is more likely, maybe even Castro.

I just don’t get the impression that the FO (or Baldelli) are very high on him.

I didn't get that impression, they used him pretty heavily this season and had him in the #3 and #4 spot in the lineup every once in a while. Baldelli certainly appeared to like him as a utility guy.

What to do, what to do?

am I the only die hard Twins fan that has serious concerns over pretty much the entire current Twins starting pitching roster??? other than rehab Pineda who has truly done a good job recoving and pitching quite well, but other than him, the entire Twins starting roation the past 4-6 weeks has really struggled, and there a major concern in my opinion only?  Again today, Jake continues with a attitude that is also some what concering, he did not pitch very well at all, and his statments post game like all of his past poor outings, is simply, no big deal, that' show baseball is, you don't allways pitch well and get all the breaks??? what the heck is he talking about, he is uncorking wild pitches like it's no big deal, it's almost identical too polanco and his horrrible defense efforts since the all star break. they behave and act like so what, it's a long season, I get that faat, but appears as if, since they are paid with for sure money, good bad or horrible, so what, win some lose some? just not very positive and in my opinion again only, I would rather see Jake totally PO;'d and mad as hades about his past outing, oh well, at this rate, the Twins will end up not even making the wild card, and the entire awesome year on the offense side will be for nothing, number, records big deal, blowing the lead we had and doing squat about it, before the season started, during the season, before the ?Aug 1st deadline, just sit on our butts and dream that this current starting rotation is good enough to get us to the games that matter???? not sure that's going to happen, not with this weak rotation. we will see, I think we have what, 6 more games against the Tribe, that will probably be the winner takes it all home?

I wouldn’t bank on Astudillo being the primary back up catcher next year. A veteran FA is more likely, maybe even Castro.

I just don’t get the impression that the FO (or Baldelli) are very high on him.

 

I liked your comment, even though I disagree with the last part.

 

I feel a veteran backstop to team with Garver is very likely. I am also very much hoping it is Castro on a more team friendly 2yr deal. The market is way too unpredictable to speculate. On the one hand, good catchers are hard to find and Castro is probably having his best season. On the other hand, he is over 30, mjssed almost all of 2018, has a repaired knee, and may be seen as an every day option to most/all teams.

 

Where I disagree is Astudillo, especially with the 26 man roster next season. I think the Twins like him very much, and not just for his personality. He's had ups and downs this year to be sure. But when he has been healthy, he's hit well and provided pop and some quality production. He offers roster flexibility that thus team really embraces. I think they view him as a keeper, just maybe not the true #2 catcher.

Jeremy, I appreciate your thoughts and efforts in this post. But I think Graterol and Alcala are really the only two to be considered here.

 

I think we all know full well that Graterol is seen as a viable SP option with a very high ceiling. I think we also know full well that for NOW, the FO is seeing him as a potentially viable asset for 2019 in the pen as a power arm to make a run. No question he is back to starting in 2020.

 

I think we are all less certain how to view Alcala. More to the point, how the FO views him. You hate to give up on a power arm as a potential rotation piece too soon, but everything I've read from day one is he just may never have that 3rd/4th pitch consistency to be a starter. But there is absolutely nothing wrong with him becoming a dominate bullpen arm, especially in today's game.

 

My concern for both, however, is not their stuff, their potential, nor the jump from AA. My concern is time to adjust to the ML baseball in so short of a time to truly have an impact the remainder of this season.

 

I suppose a healthy and re-built O'Rourke shouldn't be discounted flippantly. Especially considering his LH dominance. But I'd say too little too late for the rest of 2019. Right now, I'd say he is behind Thorpe and Smeltzer.

Pretty much FO malpractice here. Might be a rabbit to be pulled out of the hat but a disappointing situation for a contending team

DFA Hildenberger and add Graterol + Alcala

Don't they burn an option year if they add players to the 40 man in September? After Buxton last year, I don't see them taking service years lightly and adding Graterol or Alcala.

I don’t think it’s likely that Graterol or Alcala show up and blow everyone away (assuming they actually follow through on bringing one of them up. I’m skeptical).

 

Major league hitters are facing high-velo guys with knee bucking breaking stuff every night now. The command has to be there. Berrios is a recent example of raw stuff that was dominant in the minors, but a little off against big leaguers l. It took him 1.5 years to refine things.

 

Being in the bullpen may be different, but I think the overarching concept stands. Major league lineups, especially when you’re talking about the Yankees, Astros, Twins, are on a completely different level. You’re facing 8-9 batters that are twice as good as the best hitter you’ve faced in your life up to that point (aside from the occasional rehabs).

 

I actually like the Twins pen a lot going into the homestretch. Duffey and Dyson look great right now. Rogers and Romo are rock solid. I really like how May has been throwing the ball. You can really take innings away and play some matchups with that group.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Darius

Yea...bring them all up.  I am sure we can use them all at least once

 

I don’t think O’Rourke would have been acquired if there wasn’t a plan to use him.

 

I also wouldn’t bank on Kohl Stewart coming up. He’s not very good. He’s more likely to be DFA to make room for someone else.

 

 

 

Unless the Twins brain trust has a plan to elevate Kohl Stewart's performance, I don't see him as part of the organization next year.

 

I want to add, it's not because of some special rule regarding September. It's just that you "option" a guy when he's on the 40-man roster and you want to send him to a minor league team. There's no minor league games in September, so nobody gets sent down, and that's why a 40-man add this time of year will preserve all three options. They don't even have to wait until September to add a player, either, just so long as they don't change their mind and assign him to Rochester because of some 25-man roster crunch just before rosters expand.

All this.

 

Plus I believe Graterol and possibly even Alcala are eligible for the Rule 5 draft this off season. So they're going to need to be added to the 40-man anyway. At the expense of who? I don't know. Stewart? Hildenburger if he's not in the cards in the future? Poppen?

Very interesting discussion. Graterol and Alcala need to be protected long term. I still hesitate when it comes to Hildenberger. Maybe he has become Addison Reed, but I'm not sold on that theory yet. He was just too consistently solid over long stretches and then became awful over long stretches. I hope they have pinpointed his troubles.

 

Of course Astudullio is an asset. Fans love him . That matters.

To add more confusion, they actually could send them back down and still not burn an option year, as long as they spend less than 20 days down.

 

That should prevent Dobnak from burning an option, for example -- added to the 40-man and called up August 8, sent down August 15 -- he could finish the Rochester season (Sep. 2) with only 19 days on optional assignment, then get recalled to MLB on Sep. 3. (Rochester making the playoffs might complicate that, of course!)

I wonder how that will work next year. With a September limit of 28 I imagine there will still need to be some roster changes. Guys get hurt or a team may want to “swap out” a reliever. My understanding is that a player can’t be sent on an optional assignment to a team that is no longer playing. So, if the Twins wanted to swap out Gonsalves for Stashak next September (just as an example), how would that work?

 

Or, as another example, let’s say Nelson Cruz hits the IL on August 25. He’s healthy and ready to be activated on September 10 (IL goes back to 15 days next year too remember). But the Twins already have 28 guys. How do the Twins activate Cruz other than by optioning out someone?

Edited August 22, 2019 by yarnivek1972

How does Hildenberger get left off of these discussions every time? He may have the best chance of anyone of making an actual impact. If healthy, his change-up can get lefties. I also wouldn't mind having him work with Romo for obvious reasons. people forget how good he was in the minors and at times in the bigs. Molitor broke him. Hopefully temporarily.

How does Hildenberger get left off of these discussions every time? He may have the best chance of anyone of making an actual impact. If healthy, his change-up can get lefties. I also wouldn't mind having him work with Romo for obvious reasons. people forget how good he was in the minors and at times in the bigs. Molitor broke him. Hopefully temporarily.

Hildenberger is already on the 40 man roster. If he’s healthy, he more than likely will come up.