4 Starting Pitchers Available Before the Trade Deadline

While I understand the allure of wanting to trade for a SP with multiple years of team control, those pitchers are FAR more expensive than rentals. And with the way our pitching pipeline is starting to bear fruit, we aren't in a position right now where we need to divest significant prospect capital to get someone like Frankie or Castillo.

For the rest of this year, our starting staff includes Gray, Ryan, Ober, and Winder as the 4 guys we can "trust" with some inefficient Archer starts mixed in, Smeltzer spot starts, and hopefully as little of Bundy and his 88 MPH fastball as possible. Adding a 1-year rental like Price (who would almost certainly be affordable in terms of prospect capital) could really help bolster that group. 

We also have SWR, Canterino, Balazovic, Sands, and Varland knocking on the door ready to contribute. While they might not all be ready for 100 innings this year, I don't see any harm in calling up SWR or Balazovic in the next few months to see if they're capable of getting big league hitters out. Worst case scenario, they get lit up and we send them back down for some more "seasoning."

Also, it sounds like Maeda might be able to contribute in September, which would be huge in helping us watch the innings of some of these young arms. 

While Paddack is likely out for a large chunk of 2023 (if he needs Tommy John), our starting staff looks pretty full. Next year, our rotation already looks pretty full (Gray, Ryan, Maeda, Ober, Winder, SWR, and Balazovic for sure, with Canterino, Sands, and Henriquez working out of the bullpen). While no team can ever have too much starting pitching, it wouldn't be worth it to part with 2 of our top 10 prospects for 1.5 years of Frankie when our rotation already goes 7 deep notwithstanding any free agent additions or a Paddack return for 2023. 

I am always willing to try a guy out if the price is right.  Not sure what any of these guys would cost the Twins prospects wise.  Montez I am worried about his home road splits.  He pitches much better in the pitcher park in Oakland than on the road.  That would worry me.  The other three have huge questions too.  I could see any of them not panning out.  

I really like our rotation right now. In the beginning of the off season I wouldn't have signed Bundy and later I'd keep Rogers & not go  with Paddack. 

I wouldn't have gone through all that riga ma role of trading Garver/ Rortvedt and unload Donaldson for Urshela & Sanchez. I suggested a  Donaldson for Price (he's a great guy to have in the club house) trade instead

I'd like the other 3,  depending on the conditions of our rotation coming into the deadline, I'd be open to trade for one these guys. Montas would be my 1st choice because he'd be the easiest to extend, all of them would be expensive but I'd say Montas would be the cheapest. Depending on who they'd want in young players and prospects, we could afford it.

No thank you on Price (hello Steve Carlton?) But I would be talking to Oakland daily as the price tag will only increase in the days to come. Plant Frankie in the mix with Ryan and Gray (and perhaps Ober) your chances of getting to October increase and that's not an embarrassing rollout of starters once you get there. I guess after the Houston debacle they have to be wondering if a window is truly open.

Montas is the only one pitching well enough right now to push aside players we already have. And we have more coming. Coughing up prospects for mediocre pitchers doesn't make sense unless the Reds want Bundy, Thielbar, and Vallimont for Castillo. 

Depending on whether we can get healthy again, there still remain a lot more questions with the offense. (Will our catchers hit much? Can we keep a healthy hitting LF? Will Max sustain his recent revival? Can Byron stay healthy? What happens at first if Miranda doesn't start hitting? Can we clone Urshela's defense and graft it onto Arraez, or if Lewis keeps mashing, does he combine bat and glove at 3B? Do we play Sano in RF again?)

I cannot get excited about any of these pitchers.  Promote, don't lose the prospects. 

  On 5/15/2022 at 12:21 AM, mikelink45 said:

I cannot get excited about any of these pitchers.  Promote, don't lose the prospects. 

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I agree at this point. Let’s get close to the deadline and see where we stand. Maybe at that point a rental will become available at less prospect cost. Maybe Canterino or Balazovic are ready. Maybe they somehow stay healthy. Maybe either Archer or Bundy is pitching really well.

I think we need a closer more than mediocre starting pitchers. I would be checking in with Baltimore for there closer!

  On 5/14/2022 at 10:14 PM, Doctor Gast said:

I really like our rotation right now. In the beginning of the off season I wouldn't have signed Bundy and later I'd keep Rogers & not go  with Paddack. 

I wouldn't have gone through all that riga ma role of trading Garver/ Rortvedt and unload Donaldson for Urshela & Sanchez. I suggested a  Donaldson for Price (he's a great guy to have in the club house) trade instead

I'd like the other 3,  depending on the conditions of our rotation coming into the deadline, I'd be open to trade for one these guys. Montas would be my 1st choice because he'd be the easiest to extend, all of them would be expensive but I'd say Montas would be the cheapest. Depending on who they'd want in young players and prospects, we could afford it.

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Suggesting Donaldson for Price only works if the Dodgers are interested in such.  Guessing they'd not have been.

The Twins should only deal for a bona-fide ace, close to the trade deadline, if they are looking to be playoff bound. Roll with the current rotation unless or until a game #1 playoff starter becomes available. 

No, no, NO, yes

Why suggest trading a player we no longer have, I.e. Donaldson for Price. Montas would be the best SP on the Twins staff so that would make sense. But I’m encouraged by the pitching pipeline and would only make that trade if I the team looks like a serious candidate  to win it all. Without a real Verlander type ace and a reliable closer I don’t see that happening this year. 

if the Twins are going to give up any Decent prospects, then. I can see them going after Montas or Castillo. the other two seem like long shots or one season and Dispose

I really like our rotation. I think it is a good one with potential for growth. It's enough to probably win the Central and promptly get bounced in the first round. We need to raise our ceiling if we want to make the ALCS, which we haven't done in a literal decade. Go get Frankie. 

I don't think we need a starter unless a great deal comes along. I think we should look for a veteran 1st baseman or catcher.

Good old Central, back on track.  Maybe another arm wouldn't hurt...

I'm not advocating for a trade but I think Mahle or Castillo would have better moral and pitch better on a winning team  , no price please , 

Frankie montas is keeping his stock high ..... 

There are not many aces , studs or bulldogs out there anymore that pitch alot of innings and face the lineup 3 times or more , that would be my choice if we are to contend in October