3 Unexpected Players the Twins Have Been Able to Rely Upon

Can’t argue with the list.

 

I’m not sure he’s any more unexpected than the theee mentioned, but Sano May have a place here. A large portion of the fan base had written the guy off. But, he’s been our best hitter behind Cruz for going on two-three months now. He’s provided some monster clutch ABs (the most exciting against the Yankees for naught, but still amazing). He’s working deep into the count and punishing mistakes. Without his re-emergence, thus team likely wouldn’t be in first place right now.

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Can’t argue with the list.

I’m not sure he’s any more unexpected than the theee mentioned, but Sano May have a place here. A large portion of the fan base had written the guy off. But, he’s been our best hitter behind Cruz for going on two-three months now. He’s provided some monster clutch ABs (the most exciting against the Yankees for naught, but still amazing). He’s working deep into the count and punishing mistakes. Without his re-emergence, thus team likely wouldn’t be in first place right now.

Definitely agree. I would have put him on here if the list was around five or six but there were a lot of people including myself who expected Sano to be quite productive. Maybe not as good as he has been, but still not a huge surprise to a lot of people.

I'd also add Buxton and Sano. Both had horrible seasons last year but have come through beautifully. A number of us had written them off (Sano for me) but very impressive when they are on the field.

Good picks

Keplers power surge is a big surprise for me also. But the biggest surprise is that third comes before second? :)

Biggest unexpected impact player this year? The Twins training and physio staff!! With the exception of Dyson, who had a preexisting issue and honestly we should have gotten a discount on him, the days seem to be gone where guys would go down for some benign issue, disclose that they’ve been sore for a long time and need a month or two to recover. Actually, I think that’s why everyone got upset when Dyson showed up as, apparently, damaged goods using the same language that Twins players previously had used to justify why they wouldn’t tell coaches about their injuries; we just aren’t seeing that kind of nonsense this year! Sure, the boys have had their issues (I won’t mention a certain CF, as that’s sure to start a war) and sometimes it’s taken a little longer to come back from an injury, but by and large problems have been dealt with in a pro-active way with a long-term outlook in mind.

Way to go unsung heroes!

I'd also add Buxton and Sano. Both had horrible seasons last year but have come through beautifully. A number of us had written them off (Sano for me) but very impressive when they are on the field.

Hard to “rely” on someone not in the lineup more than 1/4 of the season. Which will be the case for Sano and Buxton by the end of the year.

Surprises this year include:

Harper (no one expected anything from a 30 year old rookie who was in AA the previous year)

Duffy (no one expected anything)

Arraez (no one expected .350 AVE)

Sano (no one expected .900 OPS)

Castro (no one expected .800 OPS)

Garver (no one expected .900+ OPS)

Kepler (no one expected 40 HR)

Cruz (no one expected 1.000 OPS)

Adrianza (no one expected an .820 OPS)

 

honorable mention Zack Littell (no one expected a 3.60 ERA in half a season of relieving) 

 

I like that this list is long.

 

The biggest surprise for me is Duffy. I thought he was toast, soon to be on the organizational shuttle, then released, and a nomad going from org to org.  Boy was I wrong. I guess he's a good reminder for all do us that guys take time to develop, some more than others. You can't give up on them too early when they fail initially or have initial success and then failure. . 

 

You might be right and he has been pretty good this season. That said, I don't want him anywhere near the mound in a playoff game if it is close. Sorry, but I just don't trust him. 

 

Dyson showed up as, apparently, damaged goods using the same language that Twins players previously had used to justify why they wouldn’t tell coaches about their injuries; we just aren’t seeing that kind of nonsense this year!

The tough-guy approach athletes have traditionally taken is counter-productive. The training and medical staffs should be aware of any and all ailments. These people are highly-trained professionals and their job is to keep players on the field, performing as well as possible. Don't let a minor issue become a major one because it was ignored or hidden. Let them determine what you can play through and what you can't.

 

Keplers power surge is a big surprise for me also. But the biggest surprise is that third comes before second? :)

 

Well Arraez already occupies second* so Garver had to move to third.

 

 

 

 

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I never thought Duffey would ever get it figured out. He looked for all the world like just another twins reliever that was horrible it would never get better. Nice surprise!

Just a side note in regard to the wonderfully surprising Duffy: I thought he had developed a slider on the fly that was also making a huge difference?

I’m not sure why so many are ready to trust Dyson over Duffey and even May.

 

Even just since his IL stint, 6 baserunners in 5 IP doesn’t suggest dominance. It suggests serviceable, which is how I would describe Duffey and May.

Fangraphs published an article on Arraez today and it's awesome. I suggest checking it out. Lot's of pretty infographics.

They pointed out that of all players in MLB with 200 PAs, Arraez is 5th(!!!) in OBP. Wow! I did not realize he was in that kind of territory. And he is still sporting more BB than K.

Can we start leading him off please? PLEASE!!??

 

Did FG identify Arraez before he reached the majors, as anyone special? I don't have a lot of patience with bandwagon jumpers, TBH.

 

Not super high, but higher than most. They ranked him as the number 12 prospect in the Twins system coming into the 2019 season. Not many other outlets even had him in the top 20, including Twins Daily.

 

So, as far as national outlets are concerned, Fangraphs was probably the highest on him. I haven't dug back into it, but I suspect he ranked well on their KOTAH system as a minor leaguer, which would explain why he ranked well in their team prospect rankings.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Minny505

Surprises this year include:

Harper (no one expected anything from a 30 year old rookie who was in AA the previous year)

Duffy (no one expected anything)

Arraez (no one expected .350 AVE)

Sano (no one expected .900 OPS)

Castro (no one expected .800 OPS)

Garver (no one expected .900+ OPS)

Kepler (no one expected 40 HR)

Cruz (no one expected 1.000 OPS)

Adrianza (no one expected an .820 OPS)

 

honorable mention Zack Littell (no one expected a 3.60 ERA in half a season of relieving) 

 

I like that this list is long.

The long list is nice, and productive. But so many surprises means so many are possibly over performing their talent level? Regression coming? Or will enough carry forward those improvements. I can see Garver, Sano and Kepler doing so. Some of the others suffer from either very SSS, age, or a longer history of lower outputs than successful ones. Time will tell.

Brandon Warne wrote about Duffey in March or April. Tunneling. Warne offered us a reason to believe. I bought in.

 

The Twins must have had some belief in him as several others were removed from the roster last winter while he stayed.

 

Can’t argue with the list.

I’m not sure he’s any more unexpected than the theee mentioned, but Sano May have a place here. A large portion of the fan base had written the guy off. But, he’s been our best hitter behind Cruz for going on two-three months now. He’s provided some monster clutch ABs (the most exciting against the Yankees for naught, but still amazing). He’s working deep into the count and punishing mistakes. Without his re-emergence, thus team likely wouldn’t be in first place right nowt

The extraordinary thing about Sano is....He still has the same problems at the plate. He still puts too much waggle into his bat. He still waves at balls low and outside. He still swings under too many pitches.

 

But in each of those aspects, Sano has improved, and the results have been extraordinary. To me this suggests that Sano could get considerably better than he is right now. A little less waggle, and he could be pounding baseballs like a hammer pounds nails. A little more willingness to go oppo late in counts, and he could become a monster oppo homer hitter. A little narrower vertical zone, and he could get even more walks. Best of all, all these things are achievable. If Sano keeps refining his technique, he could reach superstar status. 

The extraordinary thing about Sano is....He still has the same problems at the plate. He still puts too much waggle into his bat. He still waves at balls low and outside. He still swings under too many pitches.

 

But in each of those aspects, Sano has improved, and the results have been extraordinary. To me this suggests that Sano could get considerably better than he is right now. A little less waggle, and he could be pounding baseballs like a hammer pounds nails. A little more willingness to go oppo late in counts, and he could become a monster oppo homer hitter. A little narrower vertical zone, and he could get even more walks. Best of all, all these things are achievable. If Sano keeps refining his technique, he could reach superstar status.

 

THIS!

 

Two seasons ago, Rosario was a 4th OF candidate in some people's opinion. This past off season, some opinions had Kepler as a 4th OF. Other opinions also had Polanco as a future 2B, no doubt, before he made the All Star team as the starting SS. (I am deliberately ignoring nit picking further growth and development for reasons that should be obvious).

 

And here we are, despite a plethora of expectations and just weird injuries and general "crap" about the history of a 26yo 3B wondering who and what we have. And he is not only producing, but producing at an almost .900 level despite an abbreviated and weird start to his season, coupled with a maddening awefull couple week stretch.

 

Perspective is important. So is patience. If you don't see what time and patience is offering up now, then I don't know what else to say.

Brandon Warne wrote about Duffey in March or April. Tunneling. Warne offered us a reason to believe. I bought in.

The Twins must have had some belief in him as several others were removed from the roster last winter while he stayed.

 

Duffy was a closer in college.

 

Duffy was converted to a SP and tantalized for half a season at the ML level before being exposed.

 

Duffy was converted back to a RP again.

 

Duffy showed glimpses, but generally showed he couldn't get the job done. We all thought he was done. But the FO, Rocco, Johnson, saw something beyond options. I ABSOLUTELY get why some don't want to trust Duffy at this point. And except for the absolute cream of the crop, there is volatility for any RP. Even the very best allow a run or two or blow a game or two. It happens.

 

I would invite anyone and everyone to take a look at the 28yo Duffy's season numbers...IMO about the time most pitchers reach their prime...and then state the Twins don't have something here.

 

Again, every RP will have a bad day or stretch. But honestly look at what he has done.

Arraez is special. Period.

 

Despite being reported as an average 2B defensively, at best, I think he has held his own, even making appearances at SS, 3B and OF. 2B is undoubtedly his best spot. And he still needs to develop and refine his abilities.

 

But we are talking about a 22yo hitting machine who was in AA this time last season after missing all but 3 games in 2017 due to a bad injury.

 

He needs to improve his defense. He will. He needs to improve on power/pop. It seems that is taking place. There is almost a running joke about how he comes to the plate, surveys the field and situation, and just hits the ball where they ain't.

 

I doubt he will ever be any kind of power hitter. But there is such a thing as "man muscle" that happens with experience and physical development. I think he is in that stage right now, leading to doubles, etc.

 

We are beyond SSS at this point.

 

I EXPECTED Garver to excel, but maybe not to this degree. (Though I openly stated I wondered why Castro was expected to win the job over Garver before the season began). Truthfully, I never expected Duffy to be this good, despite a talented arm.

 

But did ANYONE expect Arraez to do what he has done? I know I didn't, despite being hopeful and following his career.

 

This kid is a keeper! And the best is yet to come.

Sano has exceeded expectations. Cruz and Kepler too.

 

The long list is nice, and productive. But so many surprises means so many are possibly over performing their talent level? Regression coming? Or will enough carry forward those improvements. I can see Garver, Sano and Kepler doing so. Some of the others suffer from either very SSS, age, or a longer history of lower outputs than successful ones. Time will tell.

 

but most of these hitters are just entering their prime which means these players are more likely to figure things out.  also with the lineup so deep, you can't really pitch around anyone.  So that happens significantly less here than in other years past or future I imagine.

 

 

Sano has exceeded expectations. Cruz and Kepler too.

Which and whose expectations are you citing regarding Sano? Because of the unreasonable hype associated with him in the past some people expect 50-HR-140-RBI-1.000-OPS performance. Other people expect nothing because they believe him to be a washout.

As for me, keep in mind that he had a serious injury in 2017 followed by major surgery. This left him unable to work out during that off season, and that's why it should have been expected that he was overweight and out of sync all last year. After what appeared to be a successful off-season there was the fluke heel injury which deprived him of spring training. So I expected him to be very rusty when he was first put on the roster this season, and I expected his performance to improve as he rounded into mid-season form for the first time in over two years. I don't know if I expected him to be as impressive as he has been lately, but I am not one bit surprised.

I agree; good list. You could easily point to a dozen or more players on the team who have surpassed expectations this year. One of the most pleasant surprises, one that not many people mention, has been Adrianza. He's currently batting .287 (which is down from a week ago) and his OBP is .371. Who guessed that he was even capable of putting up those kind of numbers. especially considering how cold he was the first month of the season. Sano, Garver, Cruz; Duffy; all these guys have performed much better than i had thought they would.