Game Score: Twins 3, Cleveland 0

When do we get to see Luke Farrell again?

Nice game Rookie.

Terrific outing from Joe Ryan. Might have a future in this league! I got a little nervous on some of those deep flies, but Ryan sure didn't look nervous about it. Looking forward to watching more of his starts and seeing how he lands.

Loved the defensive play by Jeffers late holding on to that foul tip. That's a great job and I love seeing it. Big bomb from Sano too.

Could it be?  Could Joe Ryan and Bailey Ober be part of the rotation next year?  

22 minutes ago, Squirrel said:

My response in the poll in the Twins Talk forum were that I thought those two would be a lock ... although, a lot of uncertainty around that. Still ... I like what I've seen so far and think they could make the beginnings of a good rotation. Of course, it all depends on who else is with them. But man, really liked Ryan tonight ... I mean, who wouldn't? And I'm not anointing him as anything, because this was just his 2nd major league start, but I like what I see so far.

Yeah gotta say that was pretty impressive I think the Rays might have messed up.  Like you I know it is too early to say that but I just love everything about this guy from the personable interviews to the just throw strikes and dare them to hit'em attitude.  Things could change as the league adjusts but golly gee whiz I like this kid.

Ryan seems like a straight shooter and a sharp young man. At the 3:00 mark of the postgame interview, he gives a pretty remarkable compliment to the Twins organization and to Wes Johnson in particular. From his perspective, the development transition from the Rays organization to the Twins was seamless. That probably matters quite a bit - and it signals to me that this organization might have still been doing a number of things right over the past year that I couldn't see from my perspective as a disgruntled fan.

A lot's gone wrong in 2021, and frustration with this organization is understandable. But I'm hoping there's a lot more good like this under the surface that's developing.

I mean, Cleveland has a garbage fire of an offense...but you can only pitch to the batters in front of you. I look forward to seeing how Ryan does against a good offense. I think he'll do ok. A few more starts like this and the pencil being used to put him in next year's rotation will become ink.

1 hour ago, HerbieFan said:

Could it be?  Could Joe Ryan and Bailey Ober be part of the rotation next year?  

Agreed......they both should as Falvey/Levine have produced ZERO SPs since taking over the reigns from the Terry Ryan/Bill Smith era.  A lot of discussion in other threads on TD about the makeup of our rotation for 2022.  Considering the likelihood of contending for the division is pretty low, count me in the camp advocating for Ryan and Ober to be SP regulars.  See no upside to signing the likes of Happ and Shoemaker.  That recipe has been proven to be a s**t sandwich for far too many years.  I advocated spending $$ on re-signing Buxton to an extension and making a serious run at one of the top (Corey Seager) FA shortstops that will be available.

This year's trade deadline caught me on a all-time low interest in sports in general. My interest is slowly rekindling, and I took a closer look at Gant yesterday and liked what I saw. Did the same for Ryan and was amazed at his minor league career.

Respectable 1st year in lower A : 3.72 ERA, 36 IP, 26H, 14 BB, 51K

Phenomenal 2nd year covering 3 levels A- up to AA: 1.96 ERA, 123 IP, 77H, 27BB, 183K. Wow stuff.

This year in AAA, 3.41 ERA, 66 IP, 40H, 12BB, 92K.

You all have probably been over this before. but the low hits and walks allowed and many Ks per innings pitched are really stand out indicators that this guy can be an MLB pitcher.

I wish I could have watched the game instead of just checking the box score and the listening to the break up of the perfect game while in my car.

Even though Cleveland has a less than stellar lineup, how can you not be impressed for what Ryan did tonight? He was amazing!

This kid is riding lightening right now and the Twins need to give him all the chances they can to get him ready for 2022. He has the stuff and the attitude to be a stalwart. Just how good he can be is yet to be determined,  obviously. 

I am super amped up as to his potential as a potential ML SP piece for the Twins. But I'm also a realist. I am NOT being a downer, but I still want to see Johnson work with him the rest of the year and going in to next season on some sort of reliable 3rd pitch. He finds any sort of 3rd pitch with his FB, slider, and control and moxy, he just might be special. At WORST, we might be looking at a really good #2 or excellent #3 SP. 

And let us pause for a moment to remember how good Ober has looked and developed while even making some adjustments on the fly. I want to be guarded knowing growing pains will happen at some point, but, how can you not be excited this first wave of young rotation pieces, one developed and one brought in?

Really excited as to how each finishes the season.

Also really excited to see what Dobber does to finish the year, healthy again. Despite some bad pitches and some poor defense there was a lot to like from his last start. IF he can finish 2021 looking like the initial 2020 version of himself, the Twins could be looking at a 2022 pipeline of young SP talent for the future. 

There's still a lot to play for this season, even in a lost year, to get ready for 2022.

4 hours ago, Rosterman said:

When do we get to see Luke Farrell again?

When the moon is in the 7th hour.

This was delightful to read this morning. Thank you Nelson Cruz!

59 minutes ago, bighat said:

This was delightful to read this morning. Thank you Nelson Cruz!

I thought about that last night.  Cruz is certainly among the best FA acquisitions this team has ever made.  Then, his parting gift is to bring back a really nice prospect that might be an impact player for another 6+ years..  Who knows, maybe two.  Yes, thank you Nelson Cruz.  I hope he is back as a coach one day.

While I realize it is only two games so far so we can't call Ryan a star or even a lock for the rotation in 2022, I would like to hear from all of those who were complaining that the Twins didn't acquire any "major league talent" (or similar snarky comments) for Nelson Cruz. 

6 hours ago, RickOShea said:

When the moon is in the 7th hour.

And Jupiter aligns with Mars...  (although it is when the moon is in the 7th house...)

10 hours ago, Dman said:

Yeah gotta say that was pretty impressive I think the Rays might have messed up.  Like you I know it is too early to say that but I just love everything about this guy from the personable interviews to the just throw strikes and dare them to hit'em attitude.  Things could change as the league adjusts but golly gee whiz I like this kid.

My opinion is that this trade has/will work out well for both sides.  Ryan certainly has a chance to be a key piece of the Twins rotation going forward.

Meanwhile Tampa continues to roll, and Cruz has provided the big stick and the veteran leadership they wanted.

Tampa just amazes me.  They are 9 games up in the best division in baseball and have the best record in the A.L. after losing Snell and Morton last offseason and Glasnow earlier this season.  Their ability to produce pitching and keep on winning is astounding.

I actually felt relieved when that hit came through in the 7th, because there was no way they were letting him go 9 in his second big league start after being off for several weeks, and there's a certain segment of the fans that would have completely lost their **** if he was pulled with a perfect game going. The amount of time sabermetrics would be incorrectly and agrily invoked would be impossible to quantify.

Was watching Ray Donavan when I checked my ipad at the end of the 5th inning.  Took a second to understand the comment on gameday....Perfect Game.  Kept it turned on until the single in the 7th.  WOW!

Got me thinking this morning that it makes sense to sign one older free agent every winter to a one year contract.  Somebody with a good bat or vet pitcher who could help a contending team come July.  Get a hundred games of performance until some prospect is ready, then trade him.  Excellent way to restock the pipeline and could be done even if the Twins are back in the chase by opening a spot on the roster for a big time prospect.

51 minutes ago, Brock Beauchamp said:

While the game was fun and really exciting in the moment, I feel we should pump the brakes on Ryan a little bit. At the end of the day, he's still a two-pitch pitcher whose second pitch isn't great and he has little velocity, to boot.

I think he can have a really nice career because he really seems to have the right mojo on the mound, which goes a long way with a starting pitcher, IMO.

But Ryan had quite a bit of hard contact last night, it just fell into Twins' leather until the seventh inning.

Good start, loved to see it, want to see more. But it wasn't as dominant as it looked on the stat line.

Velocity isn't everything, though. We've seen enough guys who throw mid-to-upper 90's whose fastball was as flat and straight as can be and those guys get crushed. Ryan's fastball has good life and movement on it, which should make it harder for guys to consistently catch up/square up on it. Jury's still out on his secondary stuff, but he's not just a fastball/slider guy: he does throw a change up and a curve (and definitely had a few nice ones that he dropped in for strikes early in the count). The big flies he gave up could be troublesome against better hitters, so we'll see how he does, but if he can stay out of the heart of the plate and away from 3-ball counts, he can be a quality pitcher.

So is Evers perfect as a manager?

11 hours ago, Squirrel said:

I keep rewatching that Jeffers catch of the foul tip and looking at Straw's reaction. Was he just saying 'Aw, come on'  or did he have a complaint of some sort?

I have to think it was along the lines of... "WT*?! was that?"

I'm still laughing about it... loved the play as well. 

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Joe Ryan had the fly ball out working in his favor early in the game tonight, as he gave up a number of deep fly balls that looked scary off the bat, but they all would eventually die harmlessly at the warning track for routine outs.

In other words, he gives up 5 home runs at Yankee Stadium.