Unless nobody makes an offer worth taking for the first 3 guys.  You never know how that stuff goes.  A whole lot of fans spent the offseason whining about Ryan not trading for Lucroy, but guess what, he had us on his no trade list.

 

Suzuki will be a FA in 2 months and the Twins are in last place.  A bucket of balls would be an offer worth taking (but of course they can do better than that).  Kintzler is a dime a dozen relief pitcher that might never have even minimal value again after this deadline

Abad to Boston. Curious to see what the return is.

 

Out of curiosity do you have his service time numbers? My go-to for that stuff is BBR and it's not showing when he becomes a free agent likely due to the major league contract he signed when drafted.

 

My feelings on him would change if he's still controllable beyond 2018.

 

Already posted earlier this week, if he got credit for his lost 2013, he's at 2 years and a sept call up of ML service time at the end of the year. Someone else noted that he only had 20 some days at the beginning of this season (meaning he didn't get credit for 2013).  The kid has lots of service time. May not have options, but he has service time, and I'd much rather watch a guy like that struggle in the rotation than a guy like Milone or Nolasco. 

 

Abad to Boston. Curious to see what the return is.

 

Justin Jones? 

I would do Santana for Bundy in a freaking heartbeat.

I am guessing we got Mookie Betts

Pat Light.  Reliever that should be up soon

 

Per MLB...

 

 

Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 40 | Splitter: 55 | Control: 45 | Overall: 45
Light set a Monmouth record with 102 strikeouts in 2012 and became the highest-drafted player in school history that June, going 37th overall that June. He had little success early in his pro career, missing most of his first full season with a torn hamstring and getting shellacked as a starter in Class A Advanced in 2014. But added velocity, the return of his best secondary pitch and a move to relief got him on track last year, when he rose to Triple-A.

His fastball began reaching triple digits at the end of 2014 and did so more often last season, when Light usually dealt at 94-98 mph with very heavy life. His heater is extremely difficult to lift, generating plenty of swings and misses and groundouts. He took off when the Red Sox let him resume throwing his nasty splitter, a mid-80s offering that tumbles at the plate.

Light struggled as a starter because his slider and since-scrapped changeup were unreliable, as was his command. He has trouble at times repeating his mechanics and struggled to do so after he got to Triple-A last June. He made his big league debut this April but will need to improve his control and command to serve as a high-leverage reliever.

Edited August 1, 201610 yr by alarp33

 

 

Abad to Boston. Curious to see what the return is.

Mookie Betts I heard

 

Pat Light.  Reliever that should be up soon

 

Per MLB...

 

 

Scouting grades: Fastball: 70 | Slider: 40 | Splitter: 55 | Control: 45 | Overall: 45
Light set a Monmouth record with 102 strikeouts in 2012 and became the highest-drafted player in school history that June, going 37th overall that June. He had little success early in his pro career, missing most of his first full season with a torn hamstring and getting shellacked as a starter in Class A Advanced in 2014. But added velocity, the return of his best secondary pitch and a move to relief got him on track last year, when he rose to Triple-A.

His fastball began reaching triple digits at the end of 2014 and did so more often last season, when Light usually dealt at 94-98 mph with very heavy life. His heater is extremely difficult to lift, generating plenty of swings and misses and groundouts. He took off when the Red Sox let him resume throwing his nasty splitter, a mid-80s offering that tumbles at the plate.

Light struggled as a starter because his slider and since-scrapped changeup were unreliable, as was his command. He has trouble at times repeating his mechanics and struggled to do so after he got to Triple-A last June. He made his big league debut this April but will need to improve his control and command to serve as a high-leverage reliever.

Big time fastball. I like it

 

I am guessing we got Mookie Betts

I heard that the hang up was the inclusion of Schilling's bloody sock.

Already 25 years old and no real track record of success in the minors.

Meh.

 

Out of curiosity do you have his service time numbers? My go-to for that stuff is BBR and it's not showing when he becomes a free agent likely due to the major league contract he signed when drafted.

 

My feelings on him would change if he's still controllable beyond 2018.

Check Baseball Prospectus, or Cot's (which is part of Prospectus now anyway).  They have Bundy at 26 days service time entering the 2016 season.  I think B-Ref's contract status gets broken when a player doesn't have any service time the previous season -- Buddy Boshers is a good current Twins example.

 

Another place to check is the transactions list at Bundy's MILB page, where you can see he was optioned every year from 2012-2015 (thanks to signing the MLB contract), and he also avoided the MLB disabled list during that time.

Interesting fact: the Twins actually drafted Pat Light in the 28th round of the 2009 draft.

Light had 36 K's in 25 IP this year in AAA.  

Abad to the Red Sox for rhp Pat Light.

 

Already 25 years old and no real track record of success in the minors.

Meh.

 

Former first round pick. Even if he seems like the Red Sox prospect equivalent of Phil Humber.

I'm fine with this. Light seems like a project but I don't think we were ever going to get anything great for Abad anyway.

 

Already 25 years old and no real track record of success in the minors.

Meh.

 

Fernando Abad.  Already 30 and couldn't even get a Major League deal last offseason. 

Meh. 

Abad to Red Sox

Does he go right to the pen? I'm fine if he does, but not at the continued expense of Chargois.

 

Regardless of what happens today, Chargois should be up. Three months ago.

Seems like a legit trade. Has some upside.

Am I the only one that just despises the trade deadline?

 

I just hate seeing star for prospect trades. I don't want to see Sale pitch for anyone other than Chicago. I don't want to see Puig anywhere but LA. I don't want to see someone like Jay Bruce who has spent his entire career in Cincinnati play for NY.

 

I'm ok with useful parts like Aaron Hill or Eduardo Nunez being traded but it kills me a little bit each time I see a great player leaving the only team they've been apart of.

 

Pat Light.  Reliever that should be up soon

Thanks for the info!

 

Pat Light is also on the 40-man roster, and is in his first option year.

 

I'm not crazy about Light, but I am encouraged that we were willing to deal Abad for him.  Abad is not the kind of guy you haggle about trades returns over.

I think that's probably a fair trade - Light might be sort of like Pressley was a few years ago?  For a LOOGY, a hard throwing reliever with 6 years of control seems fair. 

I don't mind it. But it seems like we have 100 MPH relievers with command issues in spades right now. I suppose it only takes one to figure it out though.

Solid move.

Light was www.mlb.com's, number 14 prospect this season for the Red Sox.

Plot thickens.....
 

Nygaard on Twitter "Just got a text that Santana got trade....."

 

I'm not TD message board savvy enough to post the image.

So basically Nick Burdi but in AAA with good numbers

 

Does he go right to the pen? I'm fine if he does, but not at the continued expense of Chargois.

 

Regardless of what happens today, Chargois should be up. Three months ago.

I suspect Light goes back to the AAA International League, where he has been the past few weeks (and most of the season) anyway.

 

Abad's roster spot is taken by Berrios, with Duffey shifting to the pen.  Need to do more to get Chargois in before September.