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Article: Official Trade Deadline Day Thread

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  • Or when the other team doesn't give up what you want.  I'd rather see Santana as a Twin at the end of the day rather than a sub-par package for him.

  • gunnarthor
    gunnarthor

    The Twins do have the advantage of not needing to trade him.  He's a good player - already worth 2 WAR this season - on a decent contract.  He shouldn't be a salary dump.  If they can't get a better p

  • Nick Nelson
    Nick Nelson

    Per Jon Heyman, Twins sending Abad to Red Sox.  

 

Lame. No reason Chargois should be in AAA at all.

Hey, maybe history will repeat itself, and the Twins will trade Kintzler and let Chargois and Duffy be co-closers (as they were in college at Rice)!

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman  19s19 seconds ago Jersey City, NJ
jays have been trying to land ervin santana. twins like him very much, tho. may keep.

I think that's a fake-Olney account (according to the replies).  Incarcerated Bob has it though...

Incarcerated Bob has broken a lot of things over the years but I think this will be his first trade (if true).

 

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman  19s19 seconds ago Jersey City, NJ
jays have been trying to land ervin santana. twins like him very much, tho. may keep.

I suspect that means the Twins aren't budging off of one of the pieces they want.

 

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeyman  19s19 seconds ago Jersey City, NJ
jays have been trying to land ervin santana. twins like him very much, tho. may keep.

Ahh, come on. Trade him while he's a hot commodity! 

 

@Pat.Light - "The sinners are much more fun"

I will withhold my analysis of the trade until I find out Pat Light's opinions on Billy Joel's 1980s-era output...

I'm fine with the Twins hard stance on Santana. If you can't get everyone you want, then keep him as the solid veteran in the rotation for next year.

 

You should probably elaborate.  Minor league K rate over 9, keeps the ball in the park, and minimizes his walk rate.  Might not be that ace upside we want, but certainly looks like he could be a decent starter.  The bigger problem I see is that getting guys like that and Mejia, are they going to continue to trot Milone and Nolasco out...

Well, he's almost 26 and still in AAA. Baseball Prospectus pegs him as a #4 ML starter. Which is valuable, but also what we seem to have plenty of. Why deal a proven #3 for a guy who might become a #3?  

 

Twitter is so lame, a bunch of people fire off fake reports/sources in hopes of being "the first" (which really doesn't mean much)

Fake and false reports like we have seen today just prove it.

 

John Sickels took an in depth look at Pat Light this April, here's the link: http://www.minorleagueball.com/2016/4/25/11500342/boston-red-sox-rookie-pat-light-scouting-report 

 

His conclusion: "Overall, if Light maintains his control he should be a useful bullpen asset. If his command maxes out he could close games eventually."

That kind of ceiling and 6 years of control for Abad ... That's a pretty solid trade!  Sure, a lot of these guys flame out but we just need a couple of the several we have to work out and we will have a great bullpen for several years. 

Edited by Major Leauge Ready

 

No that this has anything to do with the Twins, but the Colin Rea bit is interesting.  Don't recall ever seeing something like that before.

I thought something like that happened in recent years (an injured player was exchanged?), but I'm not sure I've ever seen a healthy player returned to offset the injured player...

 

I suspect that means the Twins aren't budging off of one of the pieces they want.

 

 

Or leveraging other teams, but I suspect you're correct.

 

Fine by me, we still have an hour and a half left.

 

Of course my work will suffer.

 

I feel sorry for my boss.  I am not getting anything done today reading all of these threads!

This afternoon is certainly one of those "Mental Days Off" for me too. 

 

If it is the Blue Jays, I'd be very surprised if Reid Foley isn't one of the pieces coming back.

I looked yesterday when Toronto was mention and I just don't know why we would trade with them unless Reid-Foley was part of the deal.

 

The deal for Nunez was the same way.  If you looked at their prospects, Meija stood out as the target.

Edited by Major Leauge Ready

 

I thought something like that happened in recent years (an injured player was exchanged?), but I'm not sure I've ever seen a healthy player returned to offset the injured player...

I think I know what you're talking about, but I don't remember the particulars either.  This is certainly a crazy scenario.  

 

Jeremy's Twitter is also linking a Berardino Tweet about how the Giants have also long had interest in Santana. Jeremy's response is asking for Phil Bickford.

 

That was clearly just spitballing.

 

A good spitball though.

 

Jeremy just retweeted Bickford and Susac for the Brewers' Will Smith.

 

EDIT: And MLBTR confirms:

http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2016/08/giants-acquire-will-smith.html

 

Still makes you wonder what was out there for Perkins a few years ago...

Edited by spycake

 

This afternoon is certainly one of those "Mental Days Off" for me too. 

I just got back from vacation.  Timing is not my friend today.  Workload isn't either.

 

I'm going to pay for this afternoon later this week.

Edited by wsnydes

 

This Santana stuff is exciting.

 

Just so long as the front office hasn't forgotten to have someone manning the Suzuki and Kintzler phones.

We're on it, boss! 

http://www.boldlybe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/trained-monkeys.jpeg

The Giants traded Bickford and Susac for Will Smith?

 

WHAT????

Wow!  Giants just traded Bickford for Will Smith.

 

We're on it, boss! 

http://www.boldlybe.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/trained-monkeys.jpeg

Please tell me that is from the Twins media guide...

 

The Giants traded Bickford and Susac for Will Smith?

 

WHAT????

#EvenNumberYear Going for it.

 

Jeremy just retweeted Bickford and Susac for the Brewers' Will Smith.

Crazy. The gap between decent and great relief pitching is simply amazing in terms of prospect cost.

 

The Giants traded Bickford and Susac for Will Smith?

 

WHAT????

Wow. Wow. Wow.

 

Abad return looks pretty...um...weak compared.

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