Would they trade us Tulo?

 

Too bad we no longer have Duensing to add in as the sweetener to acquire Tulo..

 

Agreed, and I'm not intending to poo poo the trade. This is likely what Abad was worth, and I'd rather shoot for upside over low ceiling/mediocre floor types. Just providing some context that he doesn't have just a "little" control problem, he's vintage Ricky Vaughn at the moment.

I agree with what the Twins did, I agree that we agree, and I'm hoping they sort out his control so that next season we can watch the Charge-wah of the Light Brigade.

 

PS "Seeing's the most important thing!"

 

 

Buster Olney

‏@BusterEPSN

Source: Ervin Santana to Blue Jays. Waiting to hear back on return.

 

 

A lot of smoke....

Some people were saying this is a fake Buster Olney account. So grain of salt for now.

 

Too bad we no longer have Duensing to add in as the sweetener to acquire Tulo..

They still have something so much sweeter though!  I present to you, Danny Santana.

 

Of topic, but did they move T. Jay to the Pen for good or only to limit his innings this year?

 

Innings limit for sure......no worries yet.

 

I love the Abad deal. They don't need Abad, and they got a 25 yo hard thrower......what's not to like?

An Erv deal with Hutchison as the centerpiece would not excite me. He's only under team control for two more seasons, same as Santana. But I suppose that may be an indication the team isn't confident Ervin will hold up that much longer.

 

Olney has it:   https://twitter.com/BusterEPSN/status/760172600148492292

That's a fake twitter account

 

Olney has it:   https://twitter.com/BusterEPSN/status/760172600148492292

Did you actually check this twitter site out... I hope this isn't the REAL Buster Olney!

 

 

Some people were saying this is a fake Buster Olney account. So grain of salt for now.

@BusterEPSN????

I think that's a fake-Olney account (according to the replies).  Incarcerated Bob has it though...(for what ever he is worth):

 

Incarcerated Bob IBN ‏@incarceratedbob  6m6 minutes ago
**BREAKING MLB NEWS**

Blue Jays on verge of getting some SP help Ervin Santana from Twins

 

Some people were saying this is a fake Buster Olney account. So grain of salt for now.

 

The real Olney account has an underscore in it.

With Abad gone does this spell a Chargois call up? Really no reason for him to be in triple A still.

 

Some people were saying this is a fake Buster Olney account. So grain of salt for now.

 

Wow! Good call, I am following them both...well I was.

 

Some people were saying this is a fake Buster Olney account. So grain of salt for now.

 

It is. Buster_ESPN is his real account.

 

Innings limit for sure......no worries yet.

 

I love the Abad deal. They don't need Abad, and they got a 25 yo hard thrower......what's not to like?

Now.... Hopefully.... The next FO in charge will know how to develop these flame throwers... 

As you're aware, here's the list of successful flame throwers who have made an impact with the Twins over the last 5-7 years:

 

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You should probably elaborate.  Minor league K rate over 9, keeps the ball in the park, and minimizes his walk rate.  Might not be that ace upside we want, but certainly looks like he could be a decent starter.  The bigger problem I see is that getting guys like that and Mejia, are they going to continue to trot Milone and Nolasco out...

I'm not sure it was really their intention to trot those guys out.  No one really distinguished themselves enough to replace them.  Milone was already waived.  Nolasco beat out Duffey fair and square during Spring Training and again this season (battle of futility).  I'm sure we'd trade Nolasco for about anything would there be any takers, and that's without a ready replacement.  I'd probably hold on to Milone, just in case we need an extra starter next season.

 

You should probably elaborate.  Minor league K rate over 9, keeps the ball in the park, and minimizes his walk rate.  Might not be that ace upside we want, but certainly looks like he could be a decent starter.  The bigger problem I see is that getting guys like that and Mejia, are they going to continue to trot Milone and Nolasco out...

To me, Drew Hutchison is already arb eligible, making $2.2 mil this year, with only 3 years of team control left (and actually, he's only 30-some days away from 4 years service time, so you couldn't promote him right away this year).

 

Plus his performance, and lack of top prospect pedigree even from a few years ago, he's more like Tommy Milone now than the primary guy the Twins should be targeting in return for a good asset.

Edited August 1, 201610 yr by spycake

 

An Erv deal with Hutchison as the centerpiece would not excite me. He's only under team control for two more seasons, same as Santana.

3 seasons, assuming we didn't promote him right away this year -- he is presently 30-some days shy of 4 years service time, since he's been in AAA most of the year.

 

With Abad gone does this spell a Chargois call up? Really no reason for him to be in triple A still.

The Duffy to the pen thing seems to point towards no, unfortunately.  At this point at least.

 

It is. Buster_ESPN is his real account.

I just went on his Twitter.  No mention of Santana. (Smoke dissipating) 

The Duffy to the pen thing seems to point towards no, unfortunately. At this point at least.

Lame. No reason Chargois should be in AAA at all.

It was nearly an hour ago that Jeremy reported "Santana gone" but his source did not indicate a destination.  And no one else has reported much of anything new on him since then -- shortly thereafter, Morosi tweeted the Blue Jays were discussing him, but has since tweeted about the Jays interest in Hellickson too.

@Pat.Light - "The sinners are much more fun"

 

An Erv deal with Hutchison as the centerpiece would not excite me. He's only under team control for two more seasons, same as Santana. But I suppose that may be an indication the team isn't confident Ervin will hold up that much longer.

I think I'd rather see the Twins gamble on Hutchinson's age 26 and 27 seasons than Ervin's age 34 and 35, despite BProp's scathing review of his 2015. But Santana is the least imperative trade piece in my book.

No that this has anything to do with the Twins, but the Colin Rea bit is interesting.  Don't recall ever seeing something like that before.

 

It was nearly an hour ago that Jeremy reported "Santana gone" but his source did not indicate a destination.  And no one else has reported much of anything new on him since then -- shortly thereafter, Morosi tweeted the Blue Jays were discussing him, but has since tweeted about the Jays interest in Hellickson too.

I was hoping to see some fire next to that smoke... We've got, what, less than 2 hours to figure it out? 

Come on Blue Jays! You know you want the Erv. 

 

No that this has anything to do with the Twins, but the Colin Rea bit is interesting.  Don't recall ever seeing something like that before.

What happened?

Jeremy's Twitter is also linking a Berardino Tweet about how the Giants have also long had interest in Santana. Jeremy's response is asking for Phil Bickford.

 

That was clearly just spitballing.

 

A good spitball though.

There are rumors that SF is also interested in Santana.  I think Bickford is not a possible get.  However, a package of P-Tyler Beede and C-Aramis Garcia would be nice gets too.  

 

To me, Drew Hutchison is already arb eligible, making $2.2 mil this year, with only 3 years of team control left (and actually, he's only 30-some days away from 4 years service time, so you couldn't promote him right away this year).

 

Plus his performance, and lack of top prospect pedigree even from a few years ago, he's more like Tommy Milone now than the primary guy the Twins should be targeting in return for a good asset.

 

Milone never sat low-90s with his fastball as a starter. You're banking on the hope that he can bounce back some.

 

And the reality is no one is going to pay top dollar for the rights to pay Santana $13.5 through his next two decline years.